It's a very important principle that local convenience centres be provided at the neighbourhood and local level to satisfy the day-to-day convenience needs of the local population. One of the reasons for having the retail hierarchy and implementing the retail hierarchy as part of implementing centres policy is in order to ensure that there is a balance between the larger centres which are necessary to provide for higher order goods and services and the neighbourhood and local level which are necessary to provide for more convenient access on a more frequent basis. So decisions would need to be made about how to apportion the floor space amongst the hierarchy, so that would be an essential part of the structure plan. That just sets the background for how I see any prospect for zoning for commercial development, let alone a district centre, let alone something as important as a district centre; some kind of overall strategic planning process is necessary for that and it would be a planning authority endorsed strategy or structure plan at the end of the day (ts 5453 5454).
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In doing these calculations, the population we are working with is not just the population of Ravenswood, it's the population within the catchment area of the district centre, the assumed five-kilometre catchment area. That five-kilometre catchment area includes those suburbs of FurnissdaleBarragup, Austin Cove, Murray River Estate, that area as well. So in the rational planning of this area, the distribution of centres, there's only going to be one district centre planned, just one, but there's going to be several neighbourhood centres planned, perhaps three, perhaps four; perhaps if they're smaller and include some local centres, there could be five or six.
So the idea that you come up with a lesser result by using the 0.4 than you would by using the 0.53 is, in my view, an incorrect approach because with the district centre, which is the 0.4, all of that 0.4 is to go in the one district centre, whereas the result of using the 0.53 is to be distributed amongst potentially numerous neighbourhood and local centres, not in Ravenswood but in this catchment area that we are talking about, and it could well be that a rational centres pattern for that catchment area which included a district centre at Ravenswood would not also include a neighbourhood centre at Ravenswood; those neighbourhood centres would be elsewhere in the catchment.
The thing is that purely from a commercial point of view one could see how a prospective developer of a district centre in Ravenswood would want the centre to include all of the catchment area's floor space, but that is not an outcome that the planning authorities would ever accept. Now, having said that, I am perfectly happy to agree that in the thinking at this level of analysis one might well assume that the district centre maybe should warrant 0.5 and the neighbourhood local centres might warrant 0.43, something like that, but the idea that all the eggs should go in that one basket is incorrect.
The thing is that I think the whole problem that Mr Haratsis has with sort of justifying the size of the district centre is purely to do with the population that we have for the foreseeable future within the catchment area because if, instead of dealing with the population projections that we have, we were dealing with a catchment area population within our catchment area; not just Ravenswood, the catchment area, within the five K's - if we were dealing with a population of 25,000 people, there's no issue.
0.4 for a district centre equals a district centre of 10,000 square metres. 0.53 for neighbourhood centres equals a total of 13,250 square metres for neighbourhood centres. If you divided that three ways you would have three neighbourhood centres of about four and a half thousand. If you divided it four ways you would have an average each of 3,300 square metre neighbourhood centres distributed throughout the localities so that you had your hierarchy of centres. So you would get your district centre using just your 0.4. The problem is the lack of population; it's not with the manipulations of the ratios (ts 5639 5640).