1.3 The hearing before the primary judge
28 At the hearing on 16 February 2021, the primary judge queried the breadth of the injunction sought against Mr Mawhinney, but said he accepted that he could restrain more than unlawful conduct. It is apparent from the context that the primary judge considered that if the power to grant an injunction existed, the terms of the injunction could extend beyond a restraint on the conduct found to be in contravention of the Corporations Act (a proposition not material to the appeal other than by way of background). The primary judge also referred to "proven conduct… as established before me, which I'm yet to determine". In response ASIC's counsel said in opening:
… it's not necessary, in my submission, for your Honour to find - to make a finding of any contravening conduct. It's sufficient that the - there's a prima facie case or apparent to your Honour that there is contravening or would be contravening conduct, and the decision of ASIC v Linchpin Capital Group [2018] FCA 1104 addresses that topic…
29 Australian Securities and Investments Commission v Linchpin Capital Group Ltd [2018] FCA 1104 concerns the appointment of a receiver under s 1323 of the Corporations Act, a power which is available where, relevantly, an investigation is being carried out by ASIC in relation to an act or omission by a person, being an act or omission that constitutes or may constitute a contravention of the Corporations Act, and the Court considers it necessary or desirable to do so for the purpose of protecting the interests of a person to whom the person the subject of the investigation by ASIC is liable, or may be or become liable, to pay money. In this context, established authority referred to by Derrington J in Linchpin at [61] is that "there is no requirement on the part of ASIC to demonstrate a prima facie case of liability on the part of the relevant person or that the person's assets have been or are about to be dissipated", citing Australian Securities and Investments Commission v Carey (No 3) [2006] FCA 433; (2006) 232 ALR 577 at [26]. Before the primary judge, ASIC's counsel referred to Linchpin at [80] where Derrington J said:
…ASIC has established a prima facie case that Endeavour has breached its obligations as a financial licencee and has contravened the Act in numerous respects. Similarly, it has shown more than a prima facie case that Linchpin has contravened the Act in significant respects and engaged in, what might transpire to be, significant breaches of trust and fiduciary duties. The breaches gives rise to a risk that the fund assets remaining in the hands of those companies, being mainly the rights to recover the loans which have been made, may be lost. It would follow there are solid grounds for the imposition of injunctions restraining the defendants from further engaging in the operation of the schemes or engaging in the provision of financial services save, in the case of Endeavour, to the extent necessary to allow it to carry on its other existing business interests.
30 The point Derrington J was making was that in respect of ASIC's application to appoint a receiver under s 1323 of the Corporations Act, ASIC did not need to establish a prima facie case of contraventions of the Corporations Act but had done so and more, which caused his Honour to be satisfied that he should appoint a receiver.
31 Accordingly, Linchpin said nothing about ss 1324 or 1101B of the Corporations Act in support of ASIC's position. Whatever the reason, ASIC put to the primary judge that his Honour's powers under ss 1324 and 1101B of the Corporations Act did not depend on any finding of contravention of the Act and were enlivened by a prima facie case only of contravention.
32 In this appeal ASIC did not seek to support this proposition. It accepted that ss 1324 and 1101B operate as described in [27] above. In particular, it accepted that the words "it appears to the Court" in s 1101B(1) did not mean that the Court could grant a permanent restraint on the basis of a mere prima facie case of contravention of the Corporations Act by a person. Rather, ASIC (implicitly) accepted that it would appear to the Court that a person had contravened the Corporations Act if the Court was satisfied, on the civil standard of proof, that a person had contravened that Act.
33 While ASIC's counsel below referred to Mr Tracy's opinions about apparent contraventions of the Corporations Act and the provisional liquidators' report having "uncovered" contraventions of the Corporations Act by Mr Mawhinney and his companies, ASIC's counsel below also said in opening:
And it is ASIC's submission - which I will come to in closing - that it's not necessary for your Honour to make findings of actual contravention by Mr Mawhinney - or in fact anyone - but apparent contravention and - are sufficient for your Honour to make the injunction relief that's sought, and ASIC does rely upon - -
HIS HONOUR: And that was the injunction in your submissions directed to protecting the public from an apprehended future risk.
ASIC's Counsel: Absolutely, and that's why section 1101(b) is framed in that way, that it just requires the appearance of a contravention by any person and any other person can then be restrained in order to promote - to further the purposes of the Act, and that's what's necessary to protect the public from this ongoing conduct.
…
And so, ASIC relies upon - and as I said, this is admissible, your Honour can make findings based upon the contents of it that Mr Mawhinney - that he is of the opinion that Mr Mawhinney may have been in breach of section 180 in relation to the offering of Core Note holders, and ..... unsophisticated investors, and also for a number of reasons in relation to the ..... security that was obtained, including failing to ensure that the appropriate security was taken out to protect the company's interest in the line to Eleuthera, and in paying redemptions to ..... holders from other investments - and I will come to some specific evidence about that in a moment - in paragraph 120, the provisional liquidators are of the opinion that Mr Mawhinney may have breached section 181, largely for similar reasons or at least for entering into a loan with Eleuthera with no security or ability to enforce in the event of non-payment to the detriment of the company, and continuing to advance further funds to Eleuthera when it would have been apparent to any reasonable person that the ability to recover advances would be limited.
And based on those same matters, at paragraph 122, the provisional liquidator considers there to be - may have been a breach of section 182. In paragraph 126 on page 3050, he considered that there may have been a breach of section 184. At paragraph 141, which is on page 3051, the provisional liquidator says it's his view that the director has been in breach of section 474A… At paragraph 142 to 145, Mr - the provision[al] liquidator expresses the view that Mr Mawhinney has contravened section 588G of the Corporations Act, that is insolvent trading…
… And then, at paragraph 158, the provisional liquidator opines that the - the view that the director is in breach of section 104(1)(h)… it is the case that he was the guiding mind and will of ..... companies and the person it is the case that he was the guiding mind and will of ..... companies and the person responsible for all of the decisions that resulted in the conduct engaged in by the company…
34 ASIC's counsel continued in opening before the primary judge as follows:
… I will take your Honour to examples of a wide variety of what is inappropriate and likely unlawful conduct, without requiring your Honour to make findings of contraventions specifically in respect of each of them. But your Honour can take all of that evidence to form the view that it is necessary to protect the public from future unlawful - unspecified unlawful conduct - largely, it's anticipated in the nature of schemes such as these - but necessarily unlawful conduct that the injunctions need to be this broad to protect the public, and also, that this evidence, although not in support of any specifically pleaded contravention itself, is conduct which your Honour should take into account as sufficiently inappropriate, if not unlawful, to support the breadth of the orders that are sought.
35 ASIC's counsel also said in opening before the primary judge:
It's simply the nature and fact of the circumstances that are explained, described by his Honour [in Re IPO Wealth Holdings No 2 Pty Ltd (No 2) [2020] VSC 733] and described by the provisional liquidators in M101 Nominees that means that the protection of the public requires the injunction that is sought, and that's the test, and that's the language of the statute.
36 Re IPO Wealth Holdings No 2 Pty Ltd (No 2) [2020] VSC 733 concerned a winding up order under s 461(1)(k) of the Corporations Act (the just and equitable basis for winding up) and the appointment of receivers. The power of the Court did not depend on contraventions of the Corporations Act.
37 The provisional liquidators' report dated 24 September 2020 does say that the investigations had "uncovered a number of contraventions of the Corporations Act 2001 by both the Company and the Director primarily in relation to Section 180 and 1041H of the Act". The details of the report included that:
(1) the provisional liquidator was required to report on "suspected" contraventions of the Corporations Act;
(2) the "table below sets out possible contraventions of the Act ...", followed by a table of possible contraventions, eg, of director's duties;
(3) "I have also considered other potential contraventions of the Act by the Director and/or the Company…";
(4) "[b]ased upon the information available to me at the date of this report, it is my opinion that the Director may have been in breach of Section 180 of the Act…";
(5) "[b]ased upon the information available to me at the date of this report, it is my opinion that the Director may have been in breach of Section 181 of the Act…";
(6) "[b]ased upon the information available to me at the date of this report, it is my opinion that the Director may have been in breach of Section 182 of the Act…";
(7) "[b]ased upon the information available to me at the date of this report, I am not aware of the Director being in breach of Section 183 of the Act…";
(8) "[b]ased upon the information available to me at the date of this report, it is my opinion that the Director may have been in breach of Section 184 of the Act…";
(9) "[a]s I am not in possession of all records of the Company, I am unable to determine whether the Director has failed to maintain adequate financial records";
(10) "[i]t is my view that the Director has been in breach of Section 474A of the Act…";
(11) "[i]t is my opinion the Company has been trading insolvent since incorporation on the basis that it did not have a sustainable business model… However, I note that pursuant to various Federal Government relief packages to support businesses during the current Covid 19 health crises, the Corporations Act has been amended to provide directors a moratorium for liability for trading whilst insolvent from 25 March 2020 to 31 December 2020";
(12) "there is sufficient evidence available to show the Director failed to deliver the Company's property and records";
(13) "it is my view that the Director was in breach of Section 1041H of the Act"; and
(14) "it is my finding that the Company did not act honestly and fairly".
38 The conclusion of the provisional liquidators' report said this:
162. This report contains my preliminary findings. Given I have not had access to the entirety of the records of the Company or those of related entities, it is likely with further time and greater access to information, additional matters may come to my attention that would be relevant for the Court's consideration.
163. Taking into account the above and as detailed in this report, I conclude at this point in time:
a. The realisable value of the Company's assets is negligible and insufficient to pay M Core noteholders back their investment. This is largely due to the financial viability of Eleuthera and its potential inability to repay the outstanding loan of c.$63.5 million to the Company;
b. The security provided to PAG on behalf of the M Core noteholders holds little value as it specifically excludes real estate assets which is the only tangible asset held by the Mayfair 101 Group entities/trust. In any event, I note that the entities that provided security to the Company are subject to current insolvency proceedings in which their assets are being sold for the benefit of their first ranking mortgagees (Naplend and Family Island Trust);
c. The Company has been trading insolvent since inception by virtue of its unsustainable business model (taking funds from investors on a short-term basis and on-lending to a related party entity on a 10 year term) and it is my opinion that it is unlikely to ever return to a position of solvency;
d. In a winding up scenario, it is my opinion that M Core noteholders would not receive a dividend from the Company; and
e. The director and the Company have continuously been in breach of numbers sections of the Act since the Company was incorporated.
39 It is apparent that the provisional liquidators' report was preliminary, based on limited information, was intended to identify "suspected" contraventions of the Corporations Act, identified numerous possible or potential contraventions of the Corporations Act, and identified the opinion of the provisional liquidator that there had been other contraventions of the Corporations Act. Given ASIC's position before the primary judge that it did not have to prove a contravention of the Corporations Act at all, but had to prove only an apparent or prima facie contravention of that Act, ASIC did not distinguish between the provisional liquidator's opinion about any suspected, possible, potential or actual contravention.
40 In referring to an associated entity of IPO Wealth, IPO Capital Pty Ltd in opening before the primary judge ASIC's counsel said:
IPO Capital didn't hold an AFSL and was not authorised to get hold of an AFSL. Mr Mawhinney is the sole director of that company… That is a contravention of 911A. It's not, again, specifically pleaded in this proceeding but your Honour will be able to form - will be able to conclude that the conduct is in contravention of 911A, which is an offence.
41 ASIC's counsel below also referred to an investment in the IPO Wealth scheme, saying:
So again, a contravention, your Honour could find it was conduct that was - did not comply with section 911A of the Act, and it was after the - after Mr Mawhinney was on notice of that issue as well, and after the IPO Wealth Fund had been established ..... raised by these entities. Your Honour will see ..... transferred to the Eleuthera Group Proprietary Limited - Eleuthera not holding an [AFSL] or being an authorised representative…
42 In his opening in response, Mr Mawhinney's counsel below said:
(1) the orders sought against Mr Mawhinney were severe and would require a high level of culpability to be found;
(2) ASIC was relying on a provisional liquidators' report and other preliminary evidence, thereby exposing the prematurity of the application, particularly given that interlocutory injunctions to the same effect as the permanent injunctions sought were already in place;
(3) the Court:
…can't possibly be expected to form the view that there has been breaches of director's duties and other statutory provisions based on a provisional liquidators report; but then [ASIC] says, "Well, your Honour can be satisfied that it's - they're apparent breaches."
They're apparent breaches. Well, that's a very flimsy basis on which to make the type of orders that are sought against a person, for life.
(4) it was not clear that the investors would receive no return, but the Court was being asked to make very serious orders when it did not know the ultimate outcome of the liquidation process;
(5) it could not be ASIC's case that there was represented to be dollar for dollar security over real estate as that was not what was said in the relevant documents (referring to the so-called missing comma issue);
(6) it was clear from the face of the relevant documents that the products were not term deposits;
(7) there were sound commercial reasons for the security being over units in the unit trusts and not over the underlying real estate assets; and
(8) "the ASIC case as I understand it is that there was something inherently toxic in these products".
43 It is clear that counsel for Mr Mawhinney below considered that ASIC's case depended only on proof of apparent contraventions of the Corporations Act, which counsel rightly identified as a flimsy basis for the making of orders of the kind ASIC sought (and, as noted, not a basis on which ASIC now seeks to defend the orders made below).
44 Counsel for Mr Mawhinney below briefly cross-examined Mr Tracy. The focus of the cross-examination was that: (a) Mr Tracy did not have valuation reports for the assets of the unit trusts and did not have profit and loss or balance sheet statements for the companies, and (b) he could not determine with absolute certainty that there would be a shortfall of funds, but had significant concerns about certain matters.
45 The matter below was then adjourned for the provision of closing submissions in writing and orally.
46 ASIC filed closing written submissions on 24 February 2021.
47 In these submissions ASIC referred to Re Vault Market Pty Ltd [2014] NSWSC 1641 in which Brereton J said:
70. … [T]he broadly expressed power in s 1101B(1) may authorise an order against a person other than the contravener. While satisfaction that a person has contravened a provision of Chapter 7 is a jurisdictional prerequisite, the only limitation on the order that can be made, once that requirement is satisfied, is that "the Court is satisfied that the order would not unfairly prejudice any person". …
83. … The context and content of s 1101B indicates that its purpose is protective and remedial, rather than deterrent in nature. … [W]hat was contemplated was an injunction to restrain misconduct that was ongoing, or to remove the risk of future misconduct when such a risk was suggested by a history of persistent past misconduct.
48 ASIC submitted that the permanent injunctions were not premature as there was "ample evidence from which the Court can readily conclude that Mr Mawhinney's continued fundraising and marketing of financial products and services to Australian investors presents a real and significant risk to those investors".
49 In answer to the case put for Mr Mawhinney, ASIC submitted that:
(1) the marketing of the products was misleading because it created the false impression the products were similar to bank term deposits;
(2) the lack of security over the real estate assets owned by the unit trusts means that there was not "dollar-for-dollar" security as had been represented to investors and the security had little or no value;
(3) there was no explanation of why Mr Mawhinney permitted the Naplend loan to be entered into; and
(4) the investment schemes relied on new investments to make payments due to existing investors, characteristic of a Ponzi scheme.
50 As noted, ASIC said its "primary concern is that Mr Mawhinney will seek to use different corporate vehicles to raise funds from investors using the same or a similarly flawed scheme". ASIC concluded that:
The evidence overwhelmingly establishes that, if not restrained, Mr Mawhinney will continue to raise funds from unsuspecting Australian investors at great risk that those funds will not be repaid. The risk is not ameliorated by ASIC's powers to take action after future contravening conduct is detected. If Mr Mawhinney is allowed to set up further investment schemes, it is likely that investors will lose money before ASIC can take action. The very significant risk amply justifies the relief sought by ASIC.
51 ASIC's closing submissions did not, in terms, identify any specific contravention or prospective contravention of the Corporations Act sufficient to enliven the powers in ss 1324 or 1101B of the Act.
52 Mr Mawhinney filed closing written submissions on 4 March 2021.
53 The closing written submissions for Mr Mawhinney said that there was "insufficient evidence for the Court to be satisfied that Mr Mawhinney will engage in conduct proscribed by law in the future". The submissions pointed out that, in respect of the other cases where permanent injunctions had been ordered, as relied on by ASIC, the court had found or declared contraventions. For example, the submissions said that:
… Because ASIC sought declarations in that case [Australian Securities and Investments Commission v PFS Business Development Group Pty Ltd [2006] VSC 192; (2006) 57 ACSR 553], the Court had determined the issue of statutory breaches when the question of injunctions arose, unlike this case where the Court is being asked to make the injunctions based on what it submits are "apparent" breaches only.
54 The submissions pointed out that, similarly, in Australian Securities and Investments Commission v Fuelbanc Australia Limited [2007] FCA 960; (2007) 162 FCR 174 the orders had been tailored to the contravening conduct found to have been committed and did not extend beyond that conduct. Further, Australian Securities and Investments Commission v Secure Investments Pty Ltd (No 2) [2020] FCA 1463; (2020) 148 ACSR 154 was "yet another case… [where] the findings in relation to the contraventions… "enlivened" the jurisdiction to make the injunctions". Further, in Australian Securities and Investments Commission v One Tech Media Ltd (No 6) [2020] FCA 842 the power of disqualification under s 206E of the Corporations Act was engaged only because the defendant had twice contravened the Act. Finally, in Australian Securities and Investments Commission v Gallop International Group Pty Ltd, in the matter of Gallop International Group Pty Ltd [2019] FCA 1514; (2019) 138 ACSR 395, "the Court found that the relevant natural person defendant had contravened (by aiding and abetting a corporate defendant) the Corporations Act or the ASIC Act".
55 The submissions said that none of these cases were analogous to the present in which, amongst other things, Mr Mawhinney had not "been the subject of any declarations of statutory contravention in this proceeding".
56 The submissions also said that no "declarations against Mr Mawhinney personally, in relation to any misleading and deceptive conduct, are sought in proceeding VID228 [the Mayfair proceeding], or this proceeding", and that if "Mr Mawhinney is to be the subject of orders based on investors incurring losses, then the Court should make factual determinations about what actual loss has been incurred and what has caused those losses".
57 The position is clear. Mr Mawhinney's counsel below, now alleged to have so incompetently represented Mr Mawhinney that the hearing below miscarried, was not meeting a case that Mr Mawhinney or anyone else had in fact contravened the Corporations Act. He was meeting a case that it was sufficient for there to have been apparent contraventions of the Corporations Act. He was (correctly) pointing out that there was no authority supporting ASIC's position that mere apparent contraventions were sufficient to empower the Court to make the orders sought under ss 1324 or 1101B of the Corporations Act.
58 ASIC filed closing written submissions in response on 8 March 2021. ASIC said that "Mr Mawhinney has had ample opportunity to give evidence and to address the concerns raised by ASIC and the provisional liquidators and has declined to do so". It said that while "ASIC does not allege that Mr Mawhinney was consciously dishonest, his conduct was indicative of serious irresponsibility and disregard for his legal obligations".
59 The oral closing submissions below were made on 9 March 2021. ASIC identified that the unanswered vice of all of the investment schemes was the use of new investments to pay out required redemptions of existing investors, which was an inherently flawed business model. Further, that unless permanently restrained, Mr Mawhinney would continue to operate such schemes resulting in significant risks and losses.
60 ASIC said below that it was of no importance that it had not sought declarations of contraventions as there were "numerous instances of unlawful conduct that have not been answered" and:
simply because ASIC hasn't sought to seek declaratory relief in respect of each of them is no bar to your Honour being satisfied on all of the material that there is a risk of future unlawful conduct, a risk of future contraventions of the Act, and a risk of future loss to investors by conduct that is unlawful.
61 Further, that the:
risk is such that Mr Mawhinney must be prevented from engaging in any business, not simply from engaging in unlawful business, because it's obvious that at each step of the way, he has, in fact, engaged in unlawful conduct. And because of the inherently problematic nature of the schemes, does so each time from the outset.
62 ASIC's counsel continued:
Then, your Honour - so it's no distinction, in my submission, that ASIC has not sought a declaration in respect of each - what could be - your Honour, could readily find is unlawful conduct in this case. It's the - what's important is for your Honour to be satisfied, in all that's required by the statutory test, is for, your Honour, to be satisfied that the injunction is appropriate to address the purpose of the Act which is to protect investors from unlawful conduct.
There is no requirement to establish any one or number of contraventions in this case. Your Honour - - - could readily do so but that's not the way ASIC has put it's case and it's not the way it needs to and it's no distinction… we said in our reply submissions what has occurred and I think what Justice Robson has found as well is that his conduct is indicative of serious irresponsibility and disregard for his legal obligations and ASIC puts it no higher than that and accepts that it does not allege conscious dishonesty.
63 ASIC's counsel below also said:
I've submitted to your Honour, there is not a reason to distinguish any of the cases. It's not a pre-conditioned - it's not the language of the Act 1101B and 1324, the Corporations Act did not require ASIC to establish or seek declaration to the contravention. That's the - the entire point is that all of the conduct is required to convince your Honour that it's appropriate to have these restraints imposed to protect the public in the future. That is the statutory language, and your Honour shouldn't take a more narrow or prescriptive approach than that.
64 ASIC's counsel below said that: "…there's no contest that Mr Mawhinney was the controlling mind of all of the relevant companies and, essentially, for that purpose, is the maker of all of the representation".
65 Mr Mawhinney's counsel below said:
In opening this case I ask the question why this application needed to be brought now when no declarations of statutory contravention have been made or even sought against Mr Mawhinney personally. This question has not been answered. Instead, ASIC has doubled down on making this premature application by shifting the focus of the relief they seek from section 1324 to section 1101B of the Corporations Act and submitting that only apparent breaches are needed in reliance on a provisional liquidator's report and an analysis of the security that did not involve a valuation of the security.
Well, in my submission, the court cannot be satisfied that breaches of statutory provisions have occurred on the strength of that evidence and the court should be very reluctant to make such serious orders under section 1101B on such thin evidence.
66 Mr Mawhinney's counsel below referred to Klees v M101 Holdings Pty Ltd [2021] NSWSC 182; (2021) 150 ACSR 513 in which Hammerschlag J (as his Honour then was) considered the same provisional liquidators' report and said at [132]: "[i]n any event, the Report does not establish the value of the Notes (nil or otherwise), either when they were issued or now. On its face, it was prepared on incomplete information".
67 Mr Mawhinney's counsel below urged the primary judge to reach the same conclusion.
68 Mr Mawhinney's counsel below also said:
…it's the provisional liquidator's report which is relied on to show that there are apparent breaches of statutory conventions. Provisional liquidator's reports routinely contain the possibility, the suggestion, that there are breaches of statutory provisions. Routinely, companies are placed into liquidation and it looks like potentially, maybe, depending on the evidence, a statutory provision was breached, routinely… this proceeding involves an application for very, very serious orders against an individual, and in my submission the fact that those - that application is based on a provisional liquidator's report and not a liquidator's report is based on the suggestion in a provisional liquidator's report that there are potentially statutory breaches instead of an application for declarations that there have been statutory breaches. That is relevant in light of this application, in light of the orders sought.
69 Mr Mawhinney's counsel below asked rhetorically:
But the real point is why don't we wait for a liquidator's report once a full investigation has occurred? Why doesn't ASIC seek declarations and prove their case against Mr Mawhinney? Why does ASIC come to this court and say, "Do this now. Make these orders." There are interim injunctions in place. There's no reason for this application to be brought now in the way it has been brought, none whatsoever. And no explanation has been given. Those questions which I commenced my opening with are still very much live. And ASIC is seeking to have this court go out on a limb and make these orders in a situation that is very unlike the situation in which these orders are normally sought. I'm talking about the proceeding, not necessarily the facts, although we will get to that. It's very unlike the other cases.
70 Mr Mawhinney's counsel below observed that "it would be very difficult to demonstrate that Mr Mawhinney actually breached any laws, because plainly he has not breached managed investment scheme laws. Plainly, he has not breached laws, be they statutory …".
71 When asked by the primary judge of the relevance of findings his Honour might make in the Mayfair proceeding to the Mawhinney proceeding, Mr Mawhinney's counsel said that no such findings could be used as the order of 2 February 2021 was only that evidence filed in the Mayfair proceeding is evidence in the Mawhinney proceeding. Consequently, ASIC was not entitled to rely on oral evidence or submissions in the Mayfair proceeding as part of the record in the Mawhinney proceeding. In any event, Mr Mawhinney was not a party to the Mayfair proceeding and had no opportunity to be heard in that proceeding so no finding in that proceeding could be used against Mr Mawhinney. Mr Mawhinney's counsel was correct.
72 Mr Mawhinney's counsel below said:
the court should dismiss the proceedings, noting that nothing would prevent ASIC from seeking declarations against Mr Mawhinney and any other appropriate orders in the future if facts demonstrate that such an order - such an application could be warranted on the evidence.
73 In the course of submissions in reply by ASIC's counsel the primary judge said:
His Honour: And is your submission because I don't need to be satisfied that there have in fact been contraventions by Mr Mawhinney, and all I have to be satisfied about is the appropriateness or not of granting the relief, that, in one sense, doesn't really matter as long as I'm - to wait to the end if I'm persuaded there's sufficient evidence now to invoke the discretion, which I have, under the Corporations Act.
ASIC's counsel: Yes. Absolutely, your Honour. Yes. And that's not to say that your Honour shouldn't and can't find that there has been unlawful conduct, but in terms of the financial records of the company and the quantum of the loss to investors, your Honour need not and should not wait any longer and can be confident about the real risk to investors to all of the products.
74 ASIC's case in closing submissions (written and oral) had moved even further away from the statutory provisions. Its case was that the central (perhaps the only) issue was the appropriateness of the relief which did not depend on ASIC proving any contravention or prospective contravention of the Corporations Act. The evidence was such that the primary judge "could" find unlawful conduct, but that was not what ASIC sought and was not the way ASIC had put its case because it did not need to do so. Rather, it was "appropriate to have these restraints imposed to protect the public in the future. That is the statutory language, and your Honour shouldn't take a more narrow or prescriptive approach than that".