[2025] NSWCATOD 79
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NCAT Occupational
2025-06-25
Foreman AM
Original judgment source is linked above.
Pursuant to s 64(1)(a) of the Civil and Administrative Tribunal Act 2013 (NSW), publication of the name of the child referred to in these reasons as Child A, is prohibited.
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Application for disciplinary findings and orders
(1) Does the scope of the B complaint (Ground 1) extend to allegations that Ms Lahoud's conduct at Ms and Mr B's home was harassing, threatening or intimidatory? No.
(2) Does the ruling about the scope of Ground 1 mean that evidence about harassing, threatening or intimidatory conduct should not be admitted? Yes, or only admitted for a limited purpose.
(3) Did Ms Lahoud tell Ms B and her partner that she could "slap [them] with a section"? Yes.
(4) Does the conduct in Ground 1 amount to unsatisfactory professional conduct? Yes.
(5) Does the conduct in Ground 2 amount to professional misconduct? Yes.
(6) What are the appropriate protective orders? That Ms Lahoud is not to apply for an Australian practising certificate for a period of 18 months from the date of this decision.
Does the scope of the B complaint extend to allegations that Ms Lahoud's conduct at Ms and Mr B's home was harassing, threatening or intimidatory?
"A foundational requirement of procedural fairness is that a person liable to be adversely affected by a decision be fairly apprised of the case against them and given a reasonable opportunity to meet it: see eg Johnson v Miller [1937] HCA 77; (1937) 59 CLR 467 at 489; [1937] HCA 77; Kanda v Government of Malaya [1962] UKPC 2; [1962] AC 322 at 337; Commissioner for ACT Revenue v Alphaone [1994] FCA 1074; (1994) 49 FCR 576 at 591. The person should not be left to guess, nor required to box at vague shadows. It would not have been difficult for the Commission to articulate the point. If it intended to rely on the type of serious finding made by the Majority then it could and should have been articulated in clear terms in the Amended Complaint or, failing that, at least in its answer to the relevant question in the request for further particulars. Neither was done."
Does the ruling about the scope of Ground 1 mean that evidence about harassing, threatening or intimidatory conduct should not be admitted?
Did Ms Lahoud tell Ms and Mr B that she could "slap [them] with a section"?
"She (the Respondent) could 'slap them (Mr and Ms B) with a section'."
"The Respondent told Ms B that [Ms A] would like to have regular contact with [Child A] and that she (the Respondent) was attending the [B] home to help [Ms A].
The Respondent said that [Ms A] missed and loved [Child A].
The Respondent asked [Ms B] for her mobile phone number, which [Ms B] provided to the Respondent. [Ms B] provided her mobile phone number to the Respondent, as she felt that otherwise she would appear uncooperative."
Does the conduct in the B complaint amount to unsatisfactory professional conduct?
"The Respondent is guilty of unsatisfactory professional conduct by breaching Rule 8(c) of the Legal Profession Uniform Conduct (Barristers) Rules 2015, or is it otherwise guilty of unsatisfactory conduct by engaging in conduct likely to diminish public confidence in the legal profession, or otherwise bring the legal profession into disrepute by her conduct in connection with attending on the complainant, [Ms B], at the [B] home on 24 December 2019, in relation to care proceedings concerning a child who was in her [Ms B's] care.
Particulars (Agreed Facts)
(i) On 24 December 2019, at some time between 12.00 pm and 4.00 pm, the Respondent attended the [B] home unannounced, and without prior appointment.
(ii) Prior to 24 December 2019, both [Ms B] and [Mr B] had no contact with the Respondent.
(iii) The Respondent and [Mr B] then had a conversation with words to the effect of:
Respondent: I've got some presents for [Child A], would you mind if she got them?
[Mr B]: [Child A] isn't here at the moment. I will just give my wife a call.
[Mr B]: Sorry, but who are you to [Ms A]?
The Respondent: I am a barrister helping [Ms A].
[Mr B]: Do you have a card?
(iv) [Mr B] then telephoned [Ms B] and asked her to return home to speak with the Respondent.
(v) [Ms B] then arrived at the [B] home. The following events occurred in the presence of [Mr B]:
a. The Respondent introduced herself to [Ms B] as 'Rita';
b. The Respondent showed [Ms B] gifts that she was carrying.
c. The Respondent told [Ms B] that [Ms A] would like to have regular contact with [Child A] and that she (the Respondent) was attending the [B] home to help [Ms A].
h. The Respondent said that [Ms A] missed and loved [Child A].
She (the Respondent) could "slap them [Mr and Mrs B] with a section".
(vi) The Respondent asked [Ms B] for her mobile phone number, which [Ms B] provided to the Respondent. [Ms B] provided her mobile phone number to the Respondent, as she felt that otherwise she would appear uncooperative."
296 Unsatisfactory professional conduct
For the purposes of this Law, unsatisfactory professional conduct includes conduct of a lawyer occurring in connection with the practice of law that falls short of the standard of competence and diligence that a member of the public is entitled to expect of a reasonably competent lawyer.
A barrister must not engage in conduct which is:
(a) dishonest or otherwise discreditable to a barrister,
(b) prejudicial to the administration of justice, or
(c) likely to diminish public confidence in the legal profession or the administration of justice or otherwise bring the legal profession into disrepute.
"53 As a general proposition, it may be said that a practitioner may be guilty of unsatisfactory professional conduct (or perhaps professional misconduct depending on all the circumstances) if a practitioner unfairly uses his or her professional position in order to gain a personal advantage over, or to intimidate, members of the community. Whether improper conduct of that kind has occurred will depend upon a consideration of all the facts and circumstances of the particular case. The observations of de Jersey CJ in Legal Services Commission v Sing [2007] LPT 004; [2007] 2 Qd R 158 at [29] - [30] are pertinent:
Pressure is daily brought to bear to encourage people to discharge their legal obligations. There is nothing legally or morally wrong with that, assuming reasonable restraint. As previously observed, [the solicitor], while applying pressure, acted in a measured way. The issue is whether the [solicitor] nevertheless unfairly used his professional position to reinforce that application of pressure, so as to overreach or intimidate ...
There is a continuum applicable to practitioners, with legitimate pressure at the one end, and improper intimidation at the other. It may, in any particular case, be difficult to delineate the precise point at which any application of pressure becomes improper. That is why practitioners must be extremely careful before resorting to any even arguably threatening conduct. They are well advised to err on the side of caution, as in all aspects of their professional approach. With the increasingly intense demands of clients, and the high level of competition which these days characterises the practice of the law, practitioners will inevitably be asked to stretch the limits of their consciences: they must be steadfast not to yield to that temptation."
Finding that the B complaint amounts to unsatisfactory professional conduct
Does the conduct in the Bar Council complaint amount to professional misconduct?
"The Respondent is guilty of professional misconduct by breaching Rule 8(a) of the Legal Profession Uniform Conduct (Barristers) Rules 2015, or is otherwise guilty of professional misconduct, by engaging in conduct which is dishonest or otherwise discreditable to a barrister by her false representations to the Bar Council during its investigation into the Complaint that she did not attend the [B] home on 24 December 2019, or at all.
Particulars
On 16 February 2021, 20 March 2021, 9 April 2021 and 14 April 2022, the Respondent represented to the Bar Council that she did not attend the [B] home on 24 December 2019, or at any other time.
On 26 August 2022, through her solicitors, the Respondent represented to the Bar Council that she did not attend the [B] home on 24 December 2019, or at any other time.
The Respondent did, in fact, attend the [B] home on 24 December 2019 as particularised . . . (in the B complaint)." (Words in brackets added.)
"28. On 16 February 2021, after being provided with a copy of the [B] Complaint and being asked by the Bar Council to provide a response to it, the Respondent said that, among other things:
"The complaint is not only untrue, but more importantly, the complainant has pursued this mechanism with a malicious intent - to end the contact proceedings . . ."
29. On 20 March 2021, the Respondent provided the Bar Council with her substantive response to the [B] Complaint and said, among other things, that:
a. the allegation that the Respondent attended the [B] home on 24 December 2019 without prior appointment, delivered presents to [Child A], threatened [Ms B] with court proceedings and made [Ms B] feel harassed and intimidated was "Untrue and completely denied";
b. the allegation that the Respondent identified herself to [Ms B] in three different capacities (being [Ms A]'s friend, solicitor and barrister), was "Untrue and again, denied in full";
c. the allegation that the Respondent was delivering presents to [Child A] was "Untrue, denied";
d. the allegation that the Respondent disclosed matters relating to [Ms A]'s health not relevant to the care proceedings was "untrue, denied".
30. The Respondent also responded to various questions from the Bar Council in her response on 20 March 2021 affirming the above denials. For example, the Bar Council asked the Respondent if she threatened [Ms B] with court proceedings, and in response, the Respondent said, "Please refer to answers [in relation to the allegation that she attended the B home on 24 December 2019 without prior appointment]. No such conversations or attendance took place. I cannot recall who was the first to provide [Ms B's] email and number, it might have been [Ms A] or [Ms B] herself first, as they both did at various intervals".
31. On 9 April 2021, in response to further question from the Bar Council, the Respondent, among other things, again denied that she attended the [B] home on 24 December 2019 or had ever attended the [B] home.
32. On 14 April 2022, the Respondent responded to further questions from the Bar Council and relevantly said, among other things that she did not have any contemporaneous records showing that she was not at the [B] home at any point. The Respondent said that she did not "know what [was] meant by the question as [she has] nothing to 'show' for an account that did not happen, nor would there be evidence to show the non-existence of a fact."
33. On 26 August 2022, through her solicitors, the Respondent made further representations to the Bar Council including:
a. "that she did not attend the premises [being the B home] on that day [24 December 2019]";
b. that the Respondent was "elsewhere on this day", and provided a detailed chronological account of her whereabouts on 24 December 2019 to demonstrate that the Respondent could not have attended "as a matter of simple timing". The Respondent provided a statement from a member of the Respondent's family and a receipt of a bank statement showing a bank deposit made by the Respondent to support the Respondent's account of her whereabouts for the balance of 24 December 2019;
c. that the Respondent's recollection and timing of events on 24 December 2019 was "contrary to the statutory declaration of [Ms B] of 14 January 2022 wherein [Ms B] declares the respondent did in fact attend the premises" and further, that [Ms B's] "statutory declaration [was] false and the respondent never attended the premises".
34. Contrary to the assertions advanced by the Respondent as outlined above, the Respondent did, in fact, attend the [B] home on 24 December 2019 as outlined in the facts relating to the [B] Complaint above.
35. The Respondent admits that she was dishonest in her responses to the Bar Council on 16 February 2021, 20 March 2021, 9 April 2021 and 14 April 2022 as outlined in the facts relating to the Bar Council Complaint above, and in her response through her solicitors on 26 August 2022."
(1) For the purposes of this Law, professional misconduct includes -
(a) unsatisfactory professional conduct of a lawyer, where the conduct involves a substantial or consistent failure to reach or maintain a reasonable standard of competence and diligence; and
(b) conduct of a lawyer whether occurring in connection with the practice of law or occurring otherwise than in connection with the practice of law that would, if established, justify a finding that the lawyer is not a fit and proper person to engage in legal practice.
(2) For the purpose of deciding whether a lawyer is or is not a fit and proper person to engage in legal practice as referred to in subsection (1)(b), regard may be had to the matters that would be considered if the lawyer were an applicant for admission to the Australian legal profession or for the grant or renewal of an Australian practising certificate and any other relevant matters.
"Fame refers to a person's reputation in the relevant community, character refers to the person's actual nature: McBride v Walton (NSWCA 15.7.1994 per Kirby P); Clearihan v Registrar of Motor Vehicle Dealers (1994) 117 FLR 455, 459."
"40 A legal practitioner owes a duty to be candid in dealings with the Court and his or her professional association (A Solicitor at [30]; Prothonotary v Van Es [2014] NSWCA 169 at [38]). . . .
41 As stated in Prothonotary v Montenegro [2015] NSWCA 409 at [66], '[q]ualities of honesty and integrity and a preparedness to comply with the law are essential requirements for being a fit and proper person'."
"[19] Honesty and integrity are important in many spheres of conduct. However, in some spheres significant public interests are involved in the conduct of particular persons and the state regulates and restricts those who are entitled to engage in those activities and acquire the privileges associated with a particular status. The legal profession has long required the highest standards of integrity."
Finding that Bar Council complaint amounts to professional misconduct
"The complaint is not only untrue, but more importantly, the complainant has pursued this mechanism with malicious intent - to end the contact proceedings. In other words, to end contact between a mother and child."
302 Determination by designated tribunal - disciplinary matters
(1) If, after it has completed a hearing under this Part into the conduct of a respondent lawyer, the designated tribunal finds that the lawyer is guilty of unsatisfactory professional conduct or professional misconduct, the designated tribunal may make any orders that it thinks fit, including any of the orders that a local regulatory authority can make under section 299 in relation to a lawyer and any one or more of the following -
. . .
(i) an order directing that an Australian practising certificate or Australian registration certificate not be granted to the lawyer before the end of a specified period;
. . .
"Attending on the complainant, Ms B, at her home without prior appointment on 24 December 2019, in relation to current care proceedings concerning a child who is in her care. In so attending Ms B's home, Ms Lahoud delivered presents for the child in her care and at the same time threatened her with court proceedings and made her feel harassed and intimidated . . ." (Italics added.)
(1) Under s 302(1)(j) of the Legal Profession Uniform Law 2015 (NSW) the Respondent is not to apply for an Australian practising certificate for a period of 18 months from the date of this decision.
(2) The Respondent is to pay the costs of the Applicant as agreed and, failing agreement, as assessed under the Legal Profession Uniform Law Application Act 2014 (NSW).
Schedule of objections and withdrawal of evidence
(1) Objection to [16 e. iii] last sentence. Admitted not as evidence of the truth of those matters, but as to Ms B's state of mind.
(2) Objection to the whole of [17]. Admitted not as evidence of the truth of those matters, but as to Ms B's state of mind.
(1) Objection [19] first and last sentence. Objection upheld.
(1) Objection to [23]. Objection to [23] from "Further, while I cannot . . ." to the end of that paragraph. Admitted, not as evidence of the truth of those allegations, but as to Ms Lahoud's state of mind.
(2) Objection to [27] last sentence. Admitted, not as evidence of the truth of those allegations, but as to Ms Lahoud's state of mind.
(3) Objection to [32] Admitted, not as evidence of the truth of those allegations, but as to Ms Lahoud's state of mind.
(4) Objection to [36]. Admitted, not as evidence of the truth of those allegations, but as to Ms Lahoud's state of mind.
(6) Objection to [71]. Admitted, not as evidence of the truth of those allegations, but as to Ms Lahoud's state of mind.
(7) Objection to [86] Admitted, not as evidence of the truth of those allegations, but as to Ms Lahoud's state of mind.
I hereby certify that this is a true and accurate record of the reasons for decision of the Civil and Administrative Tribunal of New South Wales.
30 June 2025 - Paragraph 38 amended to remove "Ms Lahoud" and substitute "Ms B"
Council of the New South Wales Bar Association
Lahoud [2025] NSWCATOD 79
(1937) 59 CLR 467
(1960) 104 CLR 186
(1994) 34 NSWLR 408
(2001) 52 NSWLR 279
(1994) 49 FCR 576
(1994) 117 FLR 455