"The prosecution said to you in closing the case, they said, look, how unlikely or how improbable is it that five complainants, not all of whom are known to each other, would all make allegations of a similar nature against the same man? That is an argument that is open to the prosecution but you need to look at that argument very carefully because in essence what that argument reflects is this sort of logic. I give you a clear example. If you had, for instance, 20 people all unknown to each other, none of them have any connection with each other, and without knowing about the existence of the other, each of those 20 people make allegations of a similar nature against the same individual, right, then logic does compel one to the conclusion, well, it can't be by coincidence that 20 people all unknown, unrelated to each other, make similar allegations against the same man. That's the logic of it, and as I say, you don't leave logic behind when you come to deliberate on your verdicts, and that is the type of logic that the Crown say you should apply in these five trials. The problem with that is this: that the example I give of 20 people all unrelated all making the same complaint about the same individual is the logic is fairly compelling because you say, well, it can't be just coincidence unless it's true, but there is obviously a point in time in that sort of logic where you say to yourself, well, I don't know. Could it just be coincidence? It could be any one of a number of reasons, and in this case, you see, that logic, I suggest to you, simply is not open to you. Firstly, it is clear that at least three of the complainants are well known to each other. SDV, RDV and CR. Those three complainants are well known to each other. They all refer, by name, in each other's statements to the other. Although both RDV and SDV gave evidence that they have never discussed their complaints with each other, certainly RDV knew about SDV's complaint before he, RDV, made his complaint. So that that logic that I say to you of people totally unrelated and unknown to each other, if all you had were the trials of RDV and SDV, would not be open to you because RDV already knows about SDV's complaint and the logic of saying, well, why would he complain totally independently and separately against the same person, is simply not open to you. I hope you understand what I'm saying. This is a very important point. Even though they may not have discussed their complaints with each other - well, I suggest to you that you shouldn't accept that in any event. I mean, certainly one would think there would be discussions between, if not directly between RDV and SDV, certainly between RDV and LDV and LDV and SDV about, you know, what each of them are all saying and LDV, in fact, co-ordinating the claims for compensation, she arranging for solicitors and all this sort of thing, that certainly that logic doesn't apply in that case because they both know about it. Well, certainly RDV knows about SDV's complaint so this is not that clear example of 20 people unrelated and not knowing that each, anyone else has made a complaint - all of a sudden making a similar complaint against the same person. The logic also that that proposition breaks down with, CR because CR knows the DVs and you will recall this critical piece of evidence, I suggest to you. LDV, I asked her, I said did you phone the police, did you phone Ralph Tyler and tell him to go and see CR because he is a victim. And you may have forgotten that but I'd asked her specifically that question and she denied that. She said I never did that. I never phoned Ralph Tyler and told him to go and see CR because he was a victim and yet Mr Tyler said that she did. He said, yes, LDV did ring me and did tell me, it's in my notes. I've got a note of it here. She rang me and she said CR is a victim and the word 'is' was in capitals and underlined in his notes. So there's clearly communication going on although not directly. It doesn't need to be direct communication but there is certainly an awareness amongst each of these three complainants, both DVs and CR of the existence of each other's complaints and when there is that sort of awareness, the logic as I say, that 20 people totally unrelated, unaware of complaints being made, just breaks down. Logic does not apply. You will also recall that MM was not totally uninfluenced by any factors in terms of making complaint. I think she conceded that she was aware of some media publicity concerning Glennon, certainly before she made her statement to the police, maybe not before she made her complaint to her mother but I put her in a totally separate category in that the nature of the complaint is different and I've gone through, you know, the logic of how you should approach her complaint in any event. Now, that really leaves, I suggest to you, the proposition that there may be two sorts of witnesses who may have independently complained; that is on the one hand the group of three, RDV, SDV and CR and on the other hand JC. JC has made his complaint in 1991 and he has also told you that prior to making that complaint in 1991 he was aware of media publicity concerning Glennon and I suggest to you that once you're aware of publicity, you may be motivated by that publicity to make complaint and therefore the logic of the example that I give you of 20 people unrelated and for no reason, no discernible reason, all independently making complaint against the same individual simply breaks down and cannot apply in this case and her Honour will give you clear directions of law as to how, if that logic is open, how it should be applied and whether or not you can apply it in this case." (Emphasis added.)