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[2025] NSWCATAP 112
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NCAT Appeal Panel
2025-05-20
Armstrong J, PresidentJ Kearney, Senior MemberF Given, General, Member
Original judgment source is linked above.
Administrative Review Decisions Act 1997 (NSW), s 63
Civil and Administrative Tribunal Act 2013 (NSW), ss 65(1), 65(1)(a), 65(3), 80(2)(b)
Ombudsman Act 1974 (NSW), s 12, s 5
Civil and Administrative Tribunal Rules 2014 (NSW), r 29
Guardianship Regulation 2016 (NSW), cl 17
Bianco Walling Pty Ltd v Construction, Forestry, Maritime, Mining and Energy Union (2020) 275 FCR 385; [2020] FCAFC 50
C v W [2015] NSWSC 1774
Collins v Urban [2014] NSWCATAP 17
Cominos v Di Rico [2016] NSWCATAP 5
Donohoe v Albulario [2025] NSWSC 9
Ebner v Official Trustee in Bankruptcy (2000) 205 CLR 337; [2000] HCA 63
Edwards v Commissioner for Fair Trading, Department of Finance, Services and Innovation [2019] NSWCATAP 208
ELQ v Public Guardian [2024] NSWCATAD 198
Ferella & Anor v Chief Commissioner of State Revenue [2014] NSWCA 378
IR v AR [2015] NSWSC 1187
Isbester v Knox City Council (2015) 255 CLR 135; [2015] HCA 20
Jia v Minister for Immigration and Multicultural Affairs [1998] FCA 768; (1998) 84 FCR 87
Kudrynski v Orange City Council [2024] NSWCA 33
Medical Council of New South Wales v Mooney [2024] NSWCA 180
Minister for Immigration & Multicultural Affairs v Jia Legeng (2001) 205 CLR 507; [2001] HCA 17;
Nathanson v Minister for Home Affairs (2022) 276 CLR 80; [2022] HCA 26
P v NSW Trustee and Guardian [2015] NSWSC 579
Project Blue Sky Inc v Australian Broadcasting Authority (1998) 194 CLR 355; [1988] HCA 28
Re B (No 1) [2011] NSWSC 1075
Reid v Commercial Club (Albury) Ltd [2014] NSWCA 98
South Western Sydney Area Health Services v Edmonds [2007] NSWCA 16
SZBEL v Minister for Immigration and Multicultural and Indigenous Affairs (2006) 228 CLR 152; [2006] HCA 63
SZTAL v Minister for Immigration and Border Protection (2017) 262 CLR 362; [2017] HCA 34
TGN v MCN & Anor [2023] SASCA 62
The Husband v Public Guardian [2016] NSWSC 1720
Unique Commercial Group Pty Ltd v Cusumano [2024] NSWCATAP 204
Urban Transport Authority of NSW v Nweiser (1992) 28 NSWLR 471
Watson v Chen [2022] NSWCATAP 44
Wollondilly Shire Council v Styles [2024] NSWCATAP 104
YHY v YHZ [2024] NSWCATAP 117
ZII v ZIJ [2018] NSWCATAP 255
B Fogarty (separate representative) (Fourth Respondent)
Pursuant to s 65 of the Civil and Administrative Tribunal Act 2013 (NSW), the publication of the name of any of the parties or other people referred to in this decision including the publication of any information, picture or other material that identifies them, or is likely to lead to their identification, is prohibited.
(1) On reviewing a guardianship order under section 25(1) or (2)(a), the Tribunal may -
(a) vary the order, or
(b) suspend or revoke the order, or
(c) confirm the order, or
(d) renew, or renew and vary the order.
(2) On reviewing a guardianship order under section 25(2)(b), the Tribunal may -
(a) renew, or renew and vary the order, or
(b) determine that the order is to lapse (and revoke the order in respect of any unexpired period for which the order is specified to have effect).
(i) the person, and
(ii) the person's spouse, if any, if the relationship between the person and the spouse is close and continuing, and
(iii) the person, if any, who has care of the person,
(b) the importance of preserving the person's existing family relationships,
(c) the importance of preserving the person's particular cultural and linguistic environments, and
(d) the practicability of services being provided to the person without the need for the making of such an order.
4 General principles
It is the duty of everyone exercising functions under this Act with respect to persons who have disabilities to observe the following principles -
(a) the welfare and interests of such persons should be given paramount consideration,
(b) the freedom of decision and freedom of action of such persons should be restricted as little as possible,
(c) such persons should be encouraged, as far as possible, to live a normal life in the community,
(d) the views of such persons in relation to the exercise of those functions should be taken into consideration,
(e) the importance of preserving the family relationships and the cultural and linguistic environments of such persons should be recognised,
(f) such persons should be encouraged, as far as possible, to be self-reliant in matters relating to their personal, domestic and financial affairs,
(g) such persons should be protected from neglect, abuse and exploitation,
(h) the community should be encouraged to apply and promote these principles.
15 Restrictions on Tribunal's power to make guardianship orders
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(3) A continuing guardianship order appointing the Public Guardian as the guardian of a person under guardianship shall not be made in circumstances in which such an order can be made appointing some other person as the guardian of the person.
17 Guardians
(1) A person shall not be appointed as the guardian of a person under guardianship unless the Tribunal is satisfied that:
(a) the personality of the proposed guardian is generally compatible with that of the person under guardianship,
(b) there is no undue conflict between the interests (particularly, the financial interests) of the proposed guardian and those of the person under guardianship, and
(c) the proposed guardian is both willing and able to exercise the functions conferred or imposed by the proposed guardianship order.
Preliminary issues - before the hearing of the appeal
Preliminary issues - the first day of the appeal hearing
(1) A copy of the application for review of guardianship order filed on 4 April 2024 by the Stepmother (the index/attachments/annexures referred to in that application were later provided by the appellant in her appeal bundle filed on 27 January 2025 (pp 3-136)).
(2) A copy of the guardianship orders made 31 July 2024 and an amended version of those orders dated 2 August 2024 which had been corrected under s 63 of the NCAT Act. We note the correction was not material to the appeal;
(3) The Tribunal's written reasons for decision bearing the date 31 July 2024 and provided to the parties on 11 September 2024;
(4) The Notice of Appeal filed 7 August 2024;
(5) A document filed by the appellant headed "Grounds for Appeal..." which the appellant told us constituted her written submissions. This document was filed 12 November 2024;
(6) Two letters both dated 6 December 2024 on letterhead and signed by Mr X together with emails dated 4 and 6 December 2024, filed on 6 December 2024;
(7) Written submissions provided by the separate representative filed 17 December 2024; and
(8) A document filed by the appellant headed "Additional Statement of Evidence..." filed the appellant on 16 December 2024 and said to contain evidence regarding "recent mismanagement" of the Son's life. This bundle comprised documents, including copies of emails and photos, which post-dated the Tribunal's review hearing on 31 July 2024.
Preliminary issues - second day of the appeal hearing
"The parties are required to comply with any directions made for the filing and service of submission and other material to be relied upon in order to prepare the matter for hearing".
"To the extent that there is a fact/law dichotomy, the facts which are not to be reviewed by the appeal court dealing with a question of law are the facts relevant to the matter in dispute. There is a categorical distinction between the facts in dispute (what part of the building was completed?) and facts relating to the composition or conduct of the Tribunal."
(1) Whether there was a breach of procedural fairness on the part of the Tribunal with respect to one or more of the following aspects of the review hearing:
(a) The Public Guardian failing to disclose "essential information";
(b) The Public Guardian not "actively participating" in the hearing;
(c) The accepting of late submissions by the Mother and the Public Guardian;
(d) The Tribunal failing to cross-examine the Public Guardian;
(e) The Tribunal having "predetermined" the review application, because it made the order to reappoint the Public Guardian in a "hasty" fashion such that the Tribunal demonstrated bias towards the appellant.
(2) Whether, by appointing the Public Guardian as the son's guardian, the Tribunal misconstrued or misapplied ss 15 and/or 17 of the Guardianship Act.
(3) Whether, by appointing the Public Guardian as the Son's guardian, the Tribunal misconstrued or failed to apply s 4 of the Guardianship Act.
Appeal ground 1: Whether Tribunal failed to afford procedural fairness to appellant in the conduct of the hearing or demonstrated bias
Public Guardian failing to disclose "essential information"
Public Guardian not "actively participating" in the hearing
Late submissions by the Mother and Public Guardian
(1) On 29 May 2024, the Mother filed written submissions (received 30 May 2024), which included a request for the Tribunal to consider the Mother as the guardian and an explanation for the delay being that she had learned of the Public Guardian's "neutral position" on 22 May 2024.
(2) On 14 June 2024, the Stepmother informed the parties and the Tribunal that she was seeking legal advice and would respond to the submissions of the Mother.
(3) On 12 July 2024, the Stepmother filed a written response to the Mother's submissions with the Tribunal.
(4) On 23 July 2024, the Mother filed further submissions and the Son's most recent Behavioural Intervention and Support (BIS) plan.
(5) On 24 July 2024, the Public Guardian filed a 5 page hearing report containing a summary of the background and history relating to the Son's care.
(6) On 26 July 2024, the Public Guardian filed a 13 page hearing report to the GD containing recommendations, reasons for the recommendations and a summary of decisions made by the Public Guardian under each function together with a list of NDIS funded services that the Son participates in.
(7) On 28 July 2024, the Stepmother filed a response to the Public Guardian's submission dated 26 July 2024. The submissions requested an adjournment of the hearing date scheduled for 31 July 2024 in the interests of natural justice.
[9] Prior to the hearing [the Stepmother] made a request in writing on 28 July 2024 for the Tribunal to adjourn the hearing. This request was made due to the receipt of a report of the Public Guardian outside of the timetable set at the directions hearings as well as material submitted by [the Mother] outside of the timetable. I asked [the Stepmother] at the commencement of the hearing whether she pressed that request for the adjournment. She indicated she wanted the hearing to proceed and acknowledged that she had seen and considered the material submitted by the Public Guardian and [the Mother] and had been able to respond in writing to this material. That material was provided to the Tribunal prior to the hearing.
[10] In the circumstances I considered it was appropriate to proceed with the hearing.
The Tribunal failed to cross-examine the Public Guardian
Bias - the Tribunal "predetermined" the review application
1215 The Mother "Senior Member, when is the decision published?"
1216 Senior Member Organ "... I am going to reserve my decision. I would hope that I'll be able to give it by tomorrow morning. Umm but I do want to give some thought to the issues that have been canvased today ..umm....So I don't expect a delay... I would hope at the latest by midday tomorrow"
(Tcpt, [1215]-[1216])
(1) Statements by the Senior Member that she has read the papers (Tcpt, [76], [80] and [130);
(2) At [240] the Senior Member asked a pertinent question about a document submitted which could only be asked if the document had been read and analysed in advance of the hearing by the member: the question is continued and completed at [296] (Tcpt, [240] - [296]).
[130] MEMBER ORGAN: ... I do want to make it very clear though that my role here today is very different to the role of the Tribunal sitting in its jurisdiction to review an administrative decision. So a lot of, and I do need to acknowledge that a lot of the material that I have received and read does relate to, I suppose, contest over the decisions that have been made at various points in time by the public guardian. My focus today is on the statutory regime under the Guardianship Act and more specifically in relation to who is going to be appointed as guardian for [the Son]...
Appeal ground 2: Misunderstanding of ss 15 and 17 of the Guardianship Act
[43] In ZKF v ZKG [2019] NSWCATAP 64 at [31] the Appeal Panel of the Tribunal noted that s 17(1) of the Guardianship Act requires an evaluative judgment to be made about whether someone is able to exercise the functions conferred under a guardianship order. This requires consideration not only of whether the person possesses the necessary skill and experience to be able to exercise those functions but also whether they have the personal attributes, such as judgement and integrity, required to exercise those functions. In addition, it requires consideration of whether the person is able to make those decisions in a manner consistent with the duty imposed by s 4 of the Guardianship Act: W v G [2003] NSWSC 1170; (2003) 59 NSWLR 220 at [25] per Windeyer J.
(1) After considering the evidence and making factual findings (Reasons at [40] to [60]), the Tribunal concluded at [61] that the Stepmother "...is not able to exercise the functions of a guardian in a manner consistent with the obligations of a guardian and the s 4 principles";
(2) The Tribunal found that those concerns would not be ameliorated by the joint appointment of Mr X because the Tribunal was not confident he was able to take an objective and unbiased approach to decision-making: Reasons at [56].
The Stepmother's ability to act as guardian - s 17(1), Guardianship Act
(1) Prior reasons of the Tribunal from March 2022 indicated the Stepmother had a highly negative attitude to the service provider responsible for the SIL accommodation and the Tribunal was satisfied that attitude remained (Reasons at [47] to [49]), and it would impede a collaborative relationship with staff at the SIL accommodation and the making of sound objective decisions: Reasons at [49]. The evidence of the SIL accommodation manager supported the view that the Stepmother's attitude to the service provider is unlikely to give effect to the need for stability and consistency of decision-making with respect to the Son: Reasons at [53]. Both the Father and the Stepmother continue to agitate their concerns about the chosen accommodation despite an unsuccessful administrative review application challenging the Public Guardian's accommodation choice (that is, in the AEOD of NCAT).
(2) The Stepmother would be hampered in accessing medical information because Dr Z, the treating Psychiatrist, had decided not to communicate with the Stepmother and the Father: Reasons at [50]. Also, because the treating neurologist has withdrawn services allegedly due to ongoing complaints lodged by the Son's paternal family: Reasons at [51]. While the cause of the withdrawal of services was not determined, the Tribunal was satisfied that there was a risk the Stepmother would be hampered in obtaining relevant medical information due to the history of health professionals involved being unwilling to communicate with her.
(3) The Tribunal was not satisfied the Stepmother would be able to make objective, well-reasoned decisions based on an evaluation of the views of other significant people in the Son's life, including the Mother, due to the fraught family dynamic: Reasons at [55] and [57].
(4) The Tribunal was satisfied there is ongoing controversy about access arrangements and that the Stepmother would be unable to exercise this function in a way that would be consistent with preserving family relations: Reasons at [59].
(5) The Tribunal found the Stepmother would not be able to give real consideration to views that differ from her own: Reasons at [57].
(6) The appointment of the Stepmother as guardian is likely to exacerbate family tension. The Tribunal was concerned this would impact the Son adversely and not be consistent with the statutory instruction in the Guardianship Act (at s 4(a)) that the Son's welfare and interests must be given paramount consideration: Reasons at [60].
[55]... I am not satisfied on the balance of probabilities that [the Stepmother] would be able to exercise any of the functions in a manner consistent with the obligation to observe the s 4 principles. In particular to give paramount consideration to the welfare and interests of [the Son].
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[60] I also consider that the appointment of [the Stepmother] as guardian is likely to exacerbate family tension. My concern is that this will impact adversely either directly or indirectly on [the Son] and would not be consistent with the statutory instruction that [the Son's] welfare and interest's must be given paramount consideration. ...
[61] A guardian should be able to consider [the Son's] views to the extent that they can be obtained and those who care for him, weigh the information about available options and make a decision where [the Son's] best interests are central to the decision. ...
"[61].... Having regard to the findings I have made I consider that [the Stepmother] is not be [sic] able to exercise the functions of a guardian in a manner consistent with the obligations of a guardian and the s 4 principles. In relation to the functions the guardian now has I am not satisfied [the Stepmother] is able to carry out these functions objectively, with insight and in accordance with the policy considerations and principles set out in the Act.
[62] In summary I find that [the Stepmother] is willing, but not able to exercise the functions conferred by the guardianship order in accordance with the principles in section 4 of the Act..."
Appointment of Public Guardian as 'default option' - s 15(3), Guardianship Act
"[54]... no practical alternative, not productive of strife, has been identified. The Public Guardian is able to act, as the first defendant is not, impartially, above suspicion of personal interest tainting sound judgement, and without rancour. The Public Guardian is best able, in the current circumstances this case, to discharge the functions of a guardian of the second defendant with due regard to the general principles enunciated in Section 4 of the Guardianship Act. The first defendant lacks the insight necessary to do so."
[6] The Tribunal did not decide that the plaintiff was not a proper person to be appointed as Mrs B's guardian. It did not decide that his plans for his mother's care or accommodation were not in her interests. Nor did it make any such findings concerning Mrs B's grandson James. Unless the Tribunal had concluded that neither the plaintiff nor Mrs B's grandson could properly be appointed as Mrs B's guardian (and it made no such finding) it ought not to have appointed the Public Guardian (W v G [2003] NSWSC 1170; (2003) 59 NSWLR 220 at [25]- [26]).
[66] As previously noted, there was no conflict in this case between the plaintiff and Mrs B and no suggested incompatibility of personality between the plaintiff and Mrs B so as to preclude the plaintiff's appointment as guardian (s 17(1)(a) and (b)). The plaintiff was wishing to act as guardian and there was no finding that he was not able to do so (s 17(1)(c)). The question under s 15(3) was whether an order appointing some person other than the Public Guardian as guardian of the person in need of a guardian could properly have been made. That in turn should have focussed attention on s 4 of the Act in which the welfare and interests of the person under disability are to be given the paramount consideration. Section 14 prescribes matters to be taken into account by the Tribunal in deciding whether to make a guardianship order. They will also be relevant to the decision as to who is the appropriate person to be appointed as guardian. But unless the Tribunal were to decide that it was not in the interests of Mrs B for it to appoint either the plaintiff or Mrs B's grandson James as guardian, the Tribunal was not entitled to appoint the Public Guardian as her guardian.
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[69] So in the present case, the Tribunal was only able to appoint the Public Guardian as Mrs B's guardian if it had considered that the plaintiff could not properly be appointed as Mrs B's guardian, and that James also could not properly be so appointed. The Tribunal might have so concluded if it had concluded that neither was able and willing properly to perform the role, or that their plans for Mrs B's future welfare were not in her interest. No such findings were made. (our emphasis)
As there was no other private individual seeking to be appointed as the guardian I reappointed the Public Guardian as [the Son's] guardian.
Appeal ground 3: Misunderstanding of, or failure to apply, s 4 Guardianship Act principles when appointing the Public Guardian
Tribunal failed to apply s 4 principles when assessing Stepmother's ability to act as guardian
Tribunal failed to apply s 4 principles when appointing Public Guardian
(1) the Son's accommodation and service provision is sub-optimal and she and the Father are excluded from discussions and meetings with the Public Guardian;
(2) the Son's health care and medical needs are not being met appropriately leading to instances of injuries to the Son during a seizure when unsupervised; and
(3) family relations have been detrimentally affected by decisions of the Public Guardian.
[32] [The Stepmother] provided extensive written material submissions and made oral submissions setting out her views at the hearing. A significant part of her written material was focused on what she perceives to be the shortcomings of the Public Guardian and [the service provider for accommodation], the lack of merit to particular decisions made and alleged inaction by the Public Guardian on various issues. I have not referred to every allegation made by [the Stepmother] against the Public Guardian as the focus for my consideration is the statutory requirements I must have regard to on review of the guardianship order. It is not my role to determine whether the Public Guardian's decisions are the correct and preferable decision as it is in an administrative review application. (emphasis added)
"80A Administrative review by Civil and Administrative Tribunal of guardianship decisions of Public Guardian
(1) An application may be made to the Civil and Administrative Tribunal for an administrative review under the Administrative Decisions Review Act 1997, of a decision of the Public Guardian that -
(a) is made in connection with the exercise of the Public Guardian's functions under this Act as a guardian,
(b) is of a class of decision prescribed by the regulations for the purposes of this section.
(2) An application under this section may be made by -
(a) the person to whom the decision relates, or
(b) the spouse of the person, or
(c) the person who has the care of the person to whom the decision relates, or
(d) any other person whose interests are, in the opinion of the Civil and Administrative Tribunal, adversely affected by the decision.
17 Administrative review by Tribunal of guardianship decisions of Public Guardian
For the purposes of section 80A (1) (b) of the Act, all decisions made by the Public Guardian in connection with the exercise of the Public Guardian's functions under the Act as a guardian are prescribed.
(1) An assertion of unsatisfactory actions by the Public Advocate cannot be relied upon to prove a change of circumstances. The only circumstance available to consider is whether or not N still lacks capacity;
(2) The Public Advocate is implicitly envisaged as "suitable". If the Public Advocate or its delegate fails to discharge that duty, there are avenues for investigation such as the Office of Public Advocate, Ombudsman SA or NDIS.
"[25]...It may be accepted that, in the event that no other guardian is available or suitable, the Public Advocate will be suitable for appointment under s 29(4) of the GA Act. In that sense, the Public Advocate will always be an available, or eligible, guardian. However, the Tribunal's duty under s 29(1) of the GA Act is to appoint as guardian the person who the Tribunal "considers, in all the circumstances of the case, to be the most suitable for the purpose". There will no doubt be cases in which, although there are natural persons willing to be a guardian, they have attributes (temporary or permanent) which make them unsuitable so that the Tribunal comes to a view, pursuant to s 29(4), that the Public Advocate must be appointed the guardian. It is not hard to image a case in which, after such an order is made the circumstances of the protected person change so that it is correct to revoke the appointment of the Public Advocate as a guardian and appoint someone else. The change in circumstances may have nothing to do with the Public Advocate - the protected person's parents or other relations may demonstrate improved circumstances so that the Public Advocate is no longer the only appropriate guardian. The protected person's health might deteriorate under the care of the Public Advocate in a way which was not foreseen at the original s 29 application. This might occur due to no fault on the part of the Public Advocate: the protected person may simply decline as a result of being removed from familiar surrounds and familiar persons. On reconsideration, on a revocation application, there may be an appropriate order for guardianship which does not involve the Public Advocate as guardian, or an appropriately nuanced order that the Public Advocate play a role as a limited guardian, or a guardian subject to conditions (such as place of care)..."
(1) Importantly, there is no equivalent in SA to s 80A of the Guardianship Act. This provides an avenue by which relevant persons may challenge decisions made by the Public Guardian in NSW, in a way which is not available in SA. Other than with respect to advance care directives, there is no jurisdiction conferred on SACAT to determine administrative (or merits) review challenges to decisions of the Public Advocate SA acting as guardian. SACAT's merits review jurisdiction requires a specific conferral of power (see s 34(1), South Australian Civil and Administrative Tribunal Act 2013 (SA)). As far as we understand, there is currently no conferral of jurisdiction on SACAT with respect to decisions of the Public Advocate SA that would permit SACAT to engage in a merits review of guardianship decisions made by the Public Advocate. The only exception is for review of advance care directives matters dealt with by the Public Advocate regarding applications under s 45 of the Advance Care Directives Act 2013 (SA).
(2) Further, and significantly, the GA Act contains no equivalent to s 17(2) of the Guardianship Act, which states expressly that the Public Guardian is not subject to the criteria set out in s 17(1). It is clear in NSW that the Public Guardian is not subject to a "suitability" assessment when being considered for appointment as guardian. Moreover, s 29(1) of the GA Act contemplates that when appointing a guardian, the SACAT is to appoint a person who is considered "in all the circumstances of the case to be the most suitable for the purpose". There is no equivalent in the NSW Act.
Tribunal failed to apply s 4(a), Guardianship Act by declining to review prior decisions of Public Guardian
(a) issues of principle;
(b) questions of public importance or matters of administration or policy which might have general application;
(c) an injustice which is reasonably clear, in the sense of going beyond merely what is arguable, or an error that is plain and readily apparent which is central to the Tribunal's decision and not merely peripheral, so that it would be unjust to allow the finding to stand;
(d) a factual error that was unreasonably arrived at and clearly mistaken;
(e) the Tribunal having gone about the fact-finding process in such an unorthodox manner or in such a way that it was likely to produce an unfair result, so that it would be in the interests of justice for it to be reviewed.
(1) the Tribunal's finding that she was not "able" to exercise the functions of a guardian for the Son was wrong, and the Tribunal did not correctly assess the evidence before it or its findings of fact in this respect were wrong;
(2) the Tribunal was wrong not to review previous conduct of the Public Guardian in decisions it made about accommodation, access and medical decisions of the Son, and that it should have considered evidence about these issues raised by the appellant, in making its decision to reappoint the Public Guardian.
I hereby certify that this is a true and accurate record of the reasons for decision of the Civil and Administrative Tribunal of New South Wales.
YKW
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(2020) 275 FCR 385
(2000) 205 CLR 337
(2015) 255 CLR 135
(1998) 84 FCR 87
(2001) 205 CLR 507
(2022) 276 CLR 80
(1998) 194 CLR 355
(2006) 228 CLR 152
(2017) 262 CLR 362
(1992) 28 NSWLR 471
(2003) 59 NSWLR 220
(2000) 201 CLR 488