"MS L VALE: All the investigation will be over hopefully. They're got around to you again, so that means they're going to get around to me pretty soon and I said to Kate only last week, 'I'm waiting until that has all been to court with Jack and then what they're going to do - - ' this is what I think is going to happen - - they're going to get a search warrant, right, and they're going to come right through the house and that's what I think is going to happen and everything has gone and it's with somebody safe.
MR CASSIDY: Somebody safe? As long as that somebody doesn't decide to rip off my fucking stuff.
MS L VALE: I hope they don't rip off my fucking stuff too, because none of it's insured now, is it? I can't even get insurance on the ... (indistinct) ...
MR CASSIDY: Why?
MS L VALE: Because we haven't got window locks and we haven't got a burglar alarm. They're trying to break you down. They think that they can break you down, okay. You've got to be tough. You've got to hang ... (indistinct) ...
MR CASSIDY: If it continues they are going to break me down because they're going to trip trap me. I can see it now.
MS L VALE: If you come up against something that you're not sure about just say, 'I know what you're asking me, but honestly, I can't remember'. Don't answer to something that you're not sure about. Just say, 'I cannot remember'. They can't do you for not remembering. It's not a crime to forget things because that will be my answer to most of the things. When they asked you if that was your signature on that form, what did you say?
MR CASSIDY: I said, 'I - - I don't know'. I said, 'I assume so'. I said, 'I don't remember signing the fucking thing', but I said, 'If it's - - if my signature is on there, I assume it's my signature'.
MS L VALE: Okay. So, you've already said I can't remember doing it, so you're already saying, 'I can't remember'.
MR CASSIDY: Yeah. Now what they're going to do is, they're going to check by [sic] fucking licence, they're going to check it up against that and they're going to say, 'What, do you change your fucking signature all the time, do you?'.
MS L VALE: If you admit that you didn't sign that form - - I'm going to have a look on that form tonight to see if your signature is on it, right, because I took photocopies of the forms, right and I'll check to see if your signature is on it, and why your signature was on there, that's what I want to know.
MR CASSIDY: It's a witness.
MS L VALE: Okay. Well, you're witnessing to say that that was me signing the form.
MR CASSIDY: Yes.
MS L VALE: Right. If you say that, no, you didn't sign that form, they will then get me for fraud.
MR CASSIDY: Exactly. So, therefore I've got to say that I've signed it.
MS L VALE: You've got to say that you've signed it."