The Age Company Ltd & Ors v Liu
[2013] NSWCA 26
At a glance
Source factsCourt
Court of Appeal (NSW)
Decision date
2012-09-21
Before
Bathurst CJ, Beazley JA, McColl JA
Source
Original judgment source is linked above.
Judgment (11 paragraphs)
Background 21To understand these grounds of appeal it is necessary to have regard to the somewhat unusual course of these proceedings in the Court below. 22For the purpose of this section of the judgment I have used pseudonyms in respect of certain persons as it is not clear to me whether their names are subject to a continuing suppression order made by the trial judge. 23The hearing of Ms Liu's motion commenced on 11 October 2010. After two days of hearing it was adjourned to 1 February 2011. 24On 1 December 2010 Mr Baker swore his affidavit. That affidavit inadvertently exhibited certain material which was said to be confidential. It is not necessary to go further than to say the information contained material which may have led to the identification of one of the sources of the information the subject of the defamation proceedings. 25On 21 January 2011 the applicants filed a Notice of Motion seeking orders that Ms Liu and her advisors be restrained from making use of the material. The motion contained the following prayers for relief: "1. This notice of motion be returnable instanter. 2. That the plaintiff's legal representatives (Kennedys) and counsel (Bruce McClintock SC and Gabriella Rubagotti) be restrained until further order from disclosing to any person, including the plaintiff, the contents of the following exhibits to the affidavit of Richard Baker sworn in this proceeding and served on the plaintiff's legal representatives on 2 December 2010: (a) Exhibit RJB-21; (b) Exhibit RJB-38; (c) the email dated 29 January 2010 from Richard Baker that forms part of Exhibit RJB-41; and (d) the email dated 4 February 2010 from Richard Baker that forms part of Exhibit RJB-41. 3. That the plaintiff's legal representatives (Kennedys) and counsel (Bruce McClintock SC and Gabriella Rubagotti) deliver up to the defendants all copies of the documents referred to in Order 1 in their possession or provided to any third party. 4. That the plaintiff's legal representatives (Kennedys) provide the defendant with a list of all persons who have been provided or who have seen copies of the documents referred to in Order 1, or to whom the contents of those documents have been disclosed by the plaintiff's legal representatives and/or counsel. 5. That the plaintiff's legal representatives (Kennedys) and counsel (Bruce McClintock SC and Gabriella Rubagotti) be restrained until further order from contacting or approaching the person referred to in paragraph 2 of the letter from Kennedys to Minter Ellison, dated 13 December 2010, which comprises Tab 6 of Confidential Exhibit PLB-1." 26Prior to that time, the solicitors for Ms Liu, by letter dated 13 January 2011, had proffered undertakings in the following terms: "Without any admission as to whether it would involve a misuse of the said confidential information (as we believe it would not, that information having been provided independently to us by our client's witness) we agree not to communicate with our client or further communicate with the witness in relation to 'X' until the hearing of this issue before Justice McCallum on 1 February 2011. By such agreement we will necessarily not be in a position to make any approach to X prior to that date for the reasons set out above." The witness in question was Mr Junn. 27The hearing of the applicants' motion commenced on 1 February 2011. Early in the hearing of the motion prayer 5 was abandoned. In that context the following interchange occurred: "MCCLINTOCK: Certainly. Can I raise this, it concerns the obligation by which my learned junior Mr George and Ms Quinn are bound. In so far as it is now the relief sought in paragraph 5 not pressed, I want to obtain instructions from Ms Liu as to whether we ought to contact the person in question. The person in question as referred to in paragraph 2 of the letter from Minter Ellisons in the first name and second name, not merely the first name. HER HONOUR: Does it follow from your case, Mr Blackburn, that there would be nothing to prevent Mr McClintock doing that? MCCLINTOCK: Approaching that? No. HER HONOUR: Mr McClintock can do that? BLACKBURN: Yes. What they can't do, at least pro tem until this issue is resolved, is use the information that is otherwise obtained in these documents. HER HONOUR: It will need to be done very carefully. MCCLINTOCK: This is what I said in my affidavit, me feeling I can't disclose material Mr Junn told me to my client. BLACKBURN: We are not saying that." 28Thereafter, on 2 February 2011 Ms Quinn, the solicitor for Ms Liu, emailed an HX asking whether X had provided the documents to The Age and whether HX knew the whereabouts of X. She received a reply from an LF, which oddly enough was copied to the solicitors for the applicants, stating that HX was travelling and could not respond and making certain allegations against Ms Liu. On 4 February 2011 Ms Quinn made a further inquiry repeating her question but again received no response. 29In response to the applicants' Notice of Motion, senior counsel for Ms Liu swore an affidavit on 1 February 2011. That affidavit, so far as relevant, was in the following terms: "2 On 7 December 2010 at approximately 11.30am I had a telephone conversation with Donald Junn, whom I know to be a solicitor who acted for Ms Helen Liu, the plaintiff in these proceedings, in particular, in proceedings between Ms Liu and one HX in the late 1990s, in this Court and the Federal Court. 3 I am not prepared to disclose the substance of my conversation with Mr Junn without my client's specific instructions to waive privilege in respect of the contents of that conversation. I am unable to obtain such instructions at the present time because I have not disclosed, nor has any other person so far as I am aware, disclosed to Ms Liu the contents of the exhibits to the affidavit of Richard Baker filed herein. Such disclosure will be necessary for Ms Liu to make an informed decision as to any such waiver and for me to advise her in regard thereto. 4 At the time of the conversation with Mr Junn, I was aware that the name 'D' appeared in Exhibit 42 in circumstances that suggested that that was the first name of the supposed confidential source of The Age articles. 5 I did not disclose that fact to Mr Junn, nor did I disclose the fact that I have such information, nor any other matter which might suggest to Mr Junn that I had such information or that such information suggested the source's name was 'D'. 6 As a result of my conversation with Mr Junn, I concluded: (a) That a person named X was probably the source of The Age articles; (b) That X had a vendetta against Helen Liu; (c) That X was capable of resorting to deliberate deceit to harm Ms Liu and that possibly he is capable of violence against her and those associated with her." 30On the sixth day of the adjourned hearing the applicants sought to tender the affidavit of Mr McClintock. Objection to the tender was taken and the following exchanges occurred: "McCLINTOCK: But for it to have any sense the conversation I would have to. I took the view then and I take the view now that if did that I would be transgressing the rules made. It may be an abundance of caution but if that is the case if I am not constrained from telling her that and putting on evidence of it, I would tell her and find out what her response to it is now and if necessary I would recall her for that purpose but. This is going a long way away from the admissibility of this affidavit. It is tendered as a admission. It plainly says in terms it is not on instructions. It was sworn for a limited purpose which was the confidentiality point which we lost. I am now in the invidious position of not being able to tell my client what is in those documents or any of them in fact in circumstances where that is obviously a consequence of the nature of this kind of application but, it is a fairly harsh approach to suggest that in circumstances where I cannot tell her that she's somehow lumped with something, with a conclusion that I came to. If I told her this material she might say 'I do not know what you are talking about, I have never heard of such a person' or whatever. I simply do not know what would happen if I was able to." "HER HONOUR: He couldn't file a statement of claim against this person without obtaining instructions. The critical question is whether perhaps he is correct in thinking that he is constrained. BLACKBURN: He is not as far as we are concerned. HER HONOUR: At the moment as the evidence stands he hasn't communicated that information to his clients. BLACKBURN: He was free to do so. We expressly withdrew prayer 5 in the notice of motion and I am astounded that Mr McClintock now says that he considers he cannot pass the information he got from Mr Junn from which he independently concluded that X was probably the source of the Age articles that he says he cannot pass that on. I am astounded to hear Mr McClintock says that he thinks he is somewhat constrained in passing on the evidence he got in conversation with Mr Junn when he said as a result of that conversation in respect of which we haven't sought any relief he has reached this conclusion." 31Thereafter Mc McClintock sought and was granted a short adjournment to obtain instructions from his client. Following the adjournment he made the following comments: "McCLINTOCK: Perhaps, I should say one thing, so there is no mistake about this. I have not, and have not now, said to Ms Liu the contents of the conversation had with Mr Junn referred to in the affidavit. However, I asked her about the name, which I can't say here. I have asked her about the name in question. I have certain instructions about that name. But for my present purport [sic] this is dealt with sufficiently by what Ms Quinn says in the affidavit and the correspondence that she has had with HX and one other person who is referred to there." 32Subsequently, Mr McClintock read that part of the affidavit of Ms Quinn of 2 February 2011 which contained the information referred to in par [28] above. 33There are a number of other matters which should be noted. First, Mr Baker, in his affidavit of 1 December 2010, deposed to the fact that there were three sources of the relevant information. It is clear that such information that was obtained as a result of inquiries made on behalf of Ms Liu only related to one potential source, namely X. Second, par [37] of the affidavit of Mr Baker was tendered on a limited basis, namely as evidence of "what was said". In par [37.3] of that affidavit Mr Baker stated that at the meeting of 2 February 2010 Mr Junn asked him where he (Mr Baker) obtained the information. Mr Baker declined to inform him. In the second telephone conversation of 2 February 2010 Mr Baker records Mr Junn inquiring whether the source was HX or BC and Mr Baker told him no. That would tend to indicate that at least at that time Mr Junn was not aware of the identity of the sources. Third, senior counsel for the applicants made it clear during the course of argument in the application for leave to appeal that he did not concede that X was one of the sources.