So rather than say calling the police or reporting it you decided that you would chase that person?---When - when you call the police everything too late.
So you thought you would take it upon yourself to correct that injustice by going after the person who is trying to run away from you after having not paid the fare?---I run - I run after - no physical ultimatum, no - I never start initial - anything physical - - -
We're not talking about physical. There's someone here who fled your taxi because he didn't want to pay your fare. You chased them, didn't you?---Yes I did, I have a few time.
Right. There's no threat to your safety when someone doesn't pay a fare, runs away from the taxi, far away from you, is there?---That - that's - that's only - is not assault. When I chase them I never - I never have any - any assault on passengers. That's true. Even - even if you can recall last time we talk about one - one Greek young boy, he (indistinct) my chest but I never use my physical - and he ambush me, he black my eyes - blackened my eyes but I only ask if you don't money, give me your ID, I take the number down. He didn't give me but he ambush me, blackened my eyes. Then I didn't let him go, with some stand by, asked them to call the police. The police come - the police come then he has - he had to tell his ID, identity and then the police officer wanted to charge him, want to charge him for reckless causing injury for my black eyes and also want to charge him threat to kill, he threat to kill me and also want to charge him for fare evading. But at that stage, that young Greek man, he begged me, he begged me and said, 'Oh please forgive me. Forgive me. Don't charge me'. And that police officer is, 'Up to you if you want him charge I can charge him, lock him up', but I decided he may - he did wrong thing but he also deserve a second chance. I let him go and he promised, he promised he would pay the fare back. I let him go. I gave - I gave him a second chance.
So essentially the police let him go because you told them to, is that right?---Sorry?
The police let him go because you told - you told them to?---Yeah.
You decided to give him a second chance, not the police?---Not decided, the police officer ask me.
Right?---Not what I decided. The police officer said, 'Now, up to you, now if you want him to be charged', he can charge him.
I suggest to you AA that as a taxi driver you shouldn't have engaged in any physical retaliation, you shouldn't have run to chase down fare evaders, you should always call the police?---Is that - - -
Do you agree with that?---I can see if I learn from transport staff, I have never done that in my life, only colleagues, they've done slam young girl out to the ground. They chase - they chase a fare. They chase fare evaders. If - if I were them I could never done that. I - I was - regard myself - I done much better than - than your colleagues.
So you don't trust those entrusted by the State to look out for the passengers of public transport - - -?---No, no, I mean the taxi - sorry, inspectors. Can't you see the news. White young girl, slam young girl on to the ground - - -