It was the primary contention of the respondents that the case fell within the situation (1), the magistrates' decisions being said to be, not steps in the process, but the process itself. That contention cannot be accepted. The magistrates' decisions refusing leave to cross-examine here were not the ultimate decisions in even their decision-making process. It is true that, unless an extension was obtained under clause 12(5), their rulings finally determined the applications for leave to cross-examine, but that is clearly not what "the ultimate decision" means in the passage under consideration.[24] Accordingly, they do not fall within the first situation described by their Honours. Nor can the decisions refusing leave come within the second situation described; for the magistrates' ultimate decisions whether to commit or not will not affect legal rights[25], especially as the Director of Public Prosecutions may proceed contrary to them, whether they be to commit or to discharge[26]. To rebut that conclusion, the respondents contended that the exercise of the "right" to cross-examine had the potential to affect the magistrates' decisions under clause 23. That may be accepted. Counsel also drew attention to the fact that, in the event that a prosecution witness died before trial or was otherwise unavailable, the deposition of the witness would not be able to be used as evidence in the trial pursuant to s.55AB(2) of the Evidence Act 1958 because the defendant had not had "a full opportunity of cross-examining the witness" as required by sub-para.(b)(i) of sub-s.(2). Counsel also referred to disadvantages or difficulties arising, or said to arise, under the Crimes (Criminal Trials) Act 1999 in cases where cross-examination at the committal hearing had not been permitted. Thus, the accused might not be able to agree to the admission of evidence in the defence response pursuant to s.7(3) of that Act without first having cross-examined. It was also suggested that it would not be possible to obtain an order under s.11(1) of that Act to take before trial the evidence of a witness if leave to cross-examine him at the committal hearing had been refused, because by sub-s.(2) an application may only be made for an order if, relevantly, the person was not "available to be examined" as a witness at the committal proceeding. But the correctness of that may be doubted. In my view, the consequences of a refusal of leave to cross-examine do not bring the magistrates' decisions within situation (2) in the passage cited from Hot Holdings.