[2025] VSC 83
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Supreme Court of Victoria
2025-02-11
Elliott J
Original judgment source is linked above.
C.3 Issue 4: Should the Director-General's objection to the Attorney-General giving information to Benbrika pursuant to a disclosure requirement be upheld?
130 Exclusion of evidence of matters of state
(1) If the public interest in admitting into evidence information or a document that relates to matters of state is outweighed by the public interest in preserving secrecy or confidentiality in relation to the information or document, the court may direct that the information or document not be adduced as evidence.
(4) Without limiting the circumstances in which information or a document may be taken for the purposes of subsection (1) to relate to matters of state, the information or document is taken for the purposes of that subsection to relate to matters of state if adducing it as evidence would -
(a) prejudice the security, defence or international relations of Australia; or
(b) damage relations between the Commonwealth and a State or between 2 or more States; or
(c) prejudice the prevention, investigation or prosecution of an offence; or
(d) prejudice the prevention or investigation of, or the conduct of proceedings for recovery of civil penalties brought with respect to, other contraventions of the law; or
(e) disclose, or enable a person to ascertain, the existence or identity of a confidential source of information relating to the enforcement or administration of a law of the Commonwealth or a State; or
(f) prejudice the proper functioning of the government of the Commonwealth or a State.
(5) Without limiting the matters that the court may take into account for the purposes of subsection (1), it is to take into account the following matters -
(a) the importance of the information or the document in the proceeding;
(b) if the proceeding is a criminal proceeding - whether the party seeking to adduce evidence of the information or document is an accused or the prosecutor;
(c) the nature of the offence, cause of action or defence to which the information or document relates, and the nature of the subject matter of the proceeding;
(d) the likely effect of adducing evidence of the information or document, and the means available to limit its publication;
(e) whether the substance of the information or document has already been published;
(f) if the proceeding is a criminal proceeding and the party seeking to adduce evidence of the information or document is an accused - whether the direction is to be made subject to the condition that the prosecution be stayed.
(1) Determining whether there is a public interest in non-disclosure.
(2) Determining whether there is a public interest in disclosure.
(3) If both public interests are present, weighing them against each other to determine whether the latter is outweighed by the former, taking into account relevant matters including those listed in section 130(5).
It may be necessary to evaluate Australia's relationships with foreign countries, the stability of international affairs, the passion inspired by a particular cause or the likelihood of adherents to the cause taking violent steps in support of it; it may be necessary to evaluate rumour or suspicion as well as proof. It may be reasonable, even necessary, to determine the gravity of a risk by intuition rather than deduction. It may be truly said that the skills and procedures of a court do not fit it to find the point on the scale of gravity of every risk which may be thought to pose a threat to the Commonwealth, the States and Territories and the people thereof, and it may be accepted that a court will not necessarily have or be able to obtain all the evidence needed to allow it to quantify a risk precisely.























[1] The day after rulings were given on these applications, directions were made for the Attorney-General's additional evidence to be filed and served. The parties agreed the final hearing needed to be postponed for a short period to allow Benbrika an appropriate amount of time to respond.
[2] Benbrika did not oppose a third interim supervision order being made, commencing on the expiry of the second interim supervision order on the same terms as previously ordered.
[5] These rulings were given on the basis that reasons would be published subsequently.
[6] As part of the application, the Attorney-General must include any report or other document that he intends to rely upon at the time of making the application (Criminal Code, s 105A.5(3)(a)), as well as a statement of any facts of which the Attorney-General is aware that would reasonably support a finding that, relevantly, the supervision order should not be made (s 105A.5(3)(aa)(ii)), or any condition should not be imposed: s 105A.5(3)(d)(iii).
[7] Criminal Code, s 105A.18D. In September 2024, Ellis met with Benbrika on a single occasion in the presence of Benbrika's solicitor. The meeting lasted approximately 3 hours. Otherwise, Ellis has not met with Benbrika.
[10] For details of the conditions of the Lapsed Supervision Order, see Benbrika v Attorney-General (Cth) (2024) 74 VR 379, 401-416 [133]-[244] (Hollingworth J).
[11] There were also conditions dealing with case management and associated machinery conditions.
[13] Ibid, ss 105A.2, 473.1 (definition of "intelligence or security officer"). The Australian Security Intelligence Organisation is under the control of the Director-General: Australian Security Intelligence Organisation Act 1979 (Cth), s 8(1).
[16] See further Criminal Code, ss 105A.14B(2)(b), 105A.14C(2), 105A.14D(2) and (3).
[17] Annexures A and B to these reasons are the orders made substantially as sought by the Director-General and the chief commissioner of Victoria Police respectively, noting that if was foreshadowed that there would be some variations sought in due course. Agreement was also reached between the commissioner of the Australian Federal Police and Benbrika concerning public interest immunity, but no orders were sought from the court in this regard.
[18] There were some other minor changes to the existing conditions.
[19] The summons seeking leave to amend the originating motion, which set out the proposed amended conditions, is Annexure C to these reasons. The Further Conditions are underlined, while the conditions that are not underlined comprise the Therapeutic Conditions.
[20] The Further Conditions did not include conditions concerning a curfew, education and employment, financial transactions, prohibited activities, the requirement to wear an electronic device or certain restrictions on travel, among several other conditions that had previously been imposed under the Lapsed Supervision Order.
[21] Criminal Code, ss 105A.3A(6), 105A.9A(4)(b)(ii), 105A.18(1)(b)(ii).
[23] See Benbrika v The Queen [2010] VSCA 281; (2010) 29 VR 593 (Maxwell P, Nettle and Weinberg JJA); R v Benbrika [2009] VSC 21; (2009) 222 FLR 433 (Bongiorno J).
[24] Criminal Code, ss 105A.2 (definition of "terrorist offender"), 105A.3(1).
[25] A serious Part 5.3 offence is an offence against Part 5.3, the maximum penalty for which is 7 or more years of imprisonment: ibid, s 105A.2 (definition of "serious Part 5.3 offence"). Benbrika was convicted of membership of a terrorist organisation and of directing the activities of a terrorist organisation. These offences were committed contrary to ss 102.3(1) and 102.2(1) respectively (both provisions appear in Part 5.3 of the Criminal Code) and carry maximum penalties of 10 and 25 years' imprisonment respectively: see Minister for Home Affairs v Benbrika (2022) 366 FLR 32, 37 [15] (Hollingworth J).
[27] Minister for Home Affairs v Benbrika [2020] VSC 888 (Tinney J).
[28] Minister for Home Affairs v Benbrika (2022) 366 FLR 32.
[29] Benbrika v Attorney-General (Cth) (2024) 74 VR 379.
[38] Benbrika v Attorney-General (Cth) (2024) 74 VR 379; Minister for Home Affairs v Benbrika (2022) 366 FLR 32; Minister for Home Affairs v Benbrika [2020] VSC 888; Benbrika v The Queen [2010] VSCA 281; (2010) 29 VR 593; R v Benbrika [2009] VSC 21; (2009) 222 FLR 433.
[40] Ellis gave the wrong date in erroneously referring to a single communication. In his fourth report, Ellis corrected these errors, stating that he should have referred to 2 conversations on 2 separate days in November 2024.
[41] Director of Public Prosecutions v Clavell [2020] VCC 1437 (Judge Marich).
[42] See Booth v Abdirahman-Khalif [2021] FCA 1651 (Besanko J); McCartney v Abdirahman-Khalif (No 2) [2020] FCA 1002 (Charlesworth J). There was no evidence of any direct connection between this individual and Benbrika.
[44] Supreme Court (General Civil Procedure) Rules 2015 (Vic), r 36.01. See also Aon Risk Services Australia Ltd v Australian National University [2009] HCA 27; (2009) 239 CLR 175, 185 [13]-[14] (French CJ). The rules of civil procedure of this court apply during a post-sentence order proceeding: Criminal Code, s 105A.13(1).
[45] There is no issue of costs, as all of Benbrika's costs are being met by the Commonwealth. Further, there was no suggestion that the public's confidence in the judicial system would be lessened by any decision to grant leave.
[46] Carroll v Goff [2021] VSCA 267, [75]-[76] (Maxwell P, Kennedy and Walker JJA).
[48] Mandie v Memart Nominees Pty Ltd [2016] VSC 4, [47] (Kyrou, Ferguson and McLeish JJA).
[49] See, in particular, s 64 of the Civil Procedure Act 2010 (Vic).
[50] In relation to the underlying provisions relating to summary judgment in this jurisdiction, see ibid, ss 61-63, together with the Supreme Court (General Civil Procedure) Rules, rr 22.03, 22.16, 23.01.
[51] See, for example, Gull Lexington Group Pty Ltd v Laguna Bay (Banongill) Agricultural Pty Ltd [2018] VSCA 85; (2018) 55 VR 273, 305 [123]-[124] (Santamaria JA and McDonald AJA); Bodycorp Repairers Pty Ltd v Holding Redlich [2018] VSCA 17, [127] (Whelan and Santamaria JJA and T Forrest AJA); CA & CA Ballan Pty Ltd v Oliver Hume (Australia) Pty Ltd [2017] VSCA 11; (2017) 55 VR 62, 73 [27] (Redlich, Tate and Ferguson JJA); D'Aquino v Trovatello [2015] VSCA 78; (2015) 47 VR 31, 42 [49] (McLeish JA, with whom Warren CJ and Ashley JA agreed); Mutton v Baker [2014] VSCA 43, [18]-[19] (Santamaria JA, with whom Whelan JA agreed), [55] (Whelan JA).
[52] Criminal Code, s 105A.7A(3), in conjunction with subs (1)(b) and (c).
[53] Summaries of some audio recordings are provided by the Federal Police at or around the same time as the recordings. Those summaries bear "session numbers" that correspond to the "session numbers" of the audio recordings.
[54] Obviously, the holiday shutdown period intervened.
[57] Further translations and transcriptions were obtained by the Government Solicitor following further instructions on 6 February 2025.
[58] See Criminal Code, ss 105A.9B-105A.9E.
[61] It is a criminal offence to contravene a condition of an extended supervision order, the maximum penalty for which is 5 years' imprisonment: ibid, ss 105A.3(3), 105A.18A.
[63] Benbrika v Attorney-General (Cth) (2024) 74 VR 379, 385 [23] (Hollingworth J).
[65] Criminal Code, s 105A.7A(1)(c)(i) and (ii).
[66] Benbrika v Attorney-General (Cth) (2024) 74 VR 379, 399 [116]-[118].
[84] Benbrika made a contrary submission. It is unnecessary to decide this issue.
[85] As to which, see Annexure C to these reasons.
[87] Of course, I say nothing about the likelihood or otherwise of the content of any expert evidence Benbrika might have adduced with respect to the further events the subject of Ellis' third and fourth reports or whether any such evidence, if adduced, ought to be accepted.
[89] At the time of the hearings, disclosure material had been provided on 5, 9 and 24 December 2024, 9 and 17 January 2025, 6 and 11 February 2025. For completeness, this factor was not relied upon by Benbrika as a basis to adjourn the trial if leave were granted to amend the originating motion.
[93] See Criminal Code, s 93.2(2)(c).
[94] If a question arises under Part 3.10 of the Evidence Act (relating to privileges), the court may order that a document be produced and inspect it for the purpose of determining the question: s 133. See also Attorney-General (NSW) v Stuart (1994) 34 NSWLR 667, 672D (Hunt CJ at CL, with whom Smart and Studdert JJ agreed); Alister v The Queen [1984] HCA 85; (1984) 154 CLR 404, 416.2 (Gibbs CJ), 453.9-454.3 (Brennan J).
[96] See Criminal Code, s 105A.5(3). "Disclosure requirement" is defined to mean a court process or court order that requires disclosure of information or a document: Evidence Act, s 131A(2). See also fn 6 and par 12 above.
[97] Minister for Home Affairs v Benbrika [2021] HCA 4; (2021) 272 CLR 68, 87-88 [12] (Kiefel CJ, Bell, Keane and Steward JJ).
[99] Each of Benbrika, the Director-General and the chief commissioner of Victoria Police agreed that by virtue of s 131A, s 130 of the Evidence Act applied.
[100] Alister v The Queen [1984] HCA 85; (1984) 154 CLR 404, 412.4 (Gibbs CJ), referring to Sankey v Whitlam [1978] HCA 43; (1978) 142 CLR 1, 38.6-39.2 (Gibbs ACJ).
[101] See, for example, Sankey v Whitlam [1978] HCA 43; (1978) 142 CLR 1, 39.2 (Gibbs ACJ), citing Conway v Rimmer [1968] UKHL 2; [1968] AC 910, 940D (Lord Reid).
[102] Church of Scientology Inc v Woodward [1982] HCA 78; (1982) 154 CLR 25, 74.5 (Brennan J); see also Thomas v Mowbray [2007] HCA 33; (2007) 233 CLR 307, 477 [510] (Hayne J).
[104] R v Peters [2018] VSCA 115, [53] (Osborn, Kaye and Niall JJA), and the cases there cited.
[105] Commonwealth v Northern Land Council [1993] HCA 24; (1993) 176 CLR 604, 618.1 (Mason CJ, Brennan, Deane, Dawson, Gaudron and McHugh JJ).
[106] PQR v Secretary, Department of Justice and Regulation (No 1) [2017] VSC 513; (2017) 53 VR 45, 53 [22] (Bell J), referring to the Open Courts Act 2013 (Vic), s 5(1).
[107] HT v The Queen (2019) 269 CLR 403, 435-436 [82] (Gordon J) and the cases there cited.
[108] Hogan v Hinch (2011) 243 CLR 506, 531-532 [21] (French CJ).
[109] The Director-General's submissions will be referred to only to such an extent as is consistent with the maintenance of the claim for public interest immunity. A version of the confidential submissions was provided to Benbrika's legal representatives with only some parts of those submissions redacted.
[110] [1982] HCA 78; (1982) 154 CLR 25, 74.5: see par 143 above.
[111] See, for example, Alister v The Queen [1984] HCA 85; (1984) 154 CLR 404, 436.5 (Wilson and Dawson JJ), citing D v National Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Children [1977] UKHL 1; [1978] AC 171, 233C (Lord Simon).
[113] Referring to Imad v Director-General of Security [2024] FCA 1115, [100]-[111] (Rofe J) (upheld on appeal in Imad v Director-General of Security (2024) 305 FCR 523 (Bromwich, Thawley and Shariff JJ)); Australian Statistician v Leighton Contractors Pty Ltd [2008] WASCA 34; (2008) 36 WAR 83, 93-94 [49]-[52] (Steytler P, McLure JA and Newnes AJA).
[114] For completeness, the Director-General made submissions based on the premise that the Attorney-General would only be seeking the Therapeutic Conditions. Self-evidently, these submissions have become superseded by more recent events.
[116] As to the more "liberal" approach to be adopted in a case involving serious criminal charges, see R v Debono [2012] VSC 476; (2012) 225 A Crim R 585, 590 [23] (Kyrou J) and the cases there cited.
[117] R v Mokbel (Ruling No 1) [2005] VSC 410, [71] (Gillard J).
[118] See, for example, R v Peters [2018] VSCA 115, [59] (Osborn, Kaye and Niall JJA).
[119] It was acknowledged that there are good reasons for protecting the identity of human sources.
[121] See ibid, s 130(5)(f).
[122] The court was told Benbrika had no issue with being personally denied the information and that his senior counsel holds a security clearance.
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(2010) 29 VR 593
(2009) 222 FLR 433
(2022) 366 FLR 32
(2009) 239 CLR 175
(2018) 55 VR 273
(2017) 55 VR 62
(2015) 47 VR 31
(1994) 34 NSWLR 667
(1984) 154 CLR 404
(2021) 272 CLR 68
(1978) 142 CLR 1
(1982) 154 CLR 25
(2007) 233 CLR 307
(1993) 176 CLR 604
(2017) 53 VR 45
(2019) 269 CLR 403
(2011) 243 CLR 506
(2024) 305 FCR 523
(2008) 36 WAR 83