[2025] FWC 1885
General information, not legal advice.
Fair Work Commission
2025-07-02
Original judgment source is linked above.
s.394 - Unfair dismissal
The Trustee for Olive Lane Wholesale Unit Trust
Application for an unfair dismissal remedy - dismissal unfair - compensation ordered.
(a) file a Form F3 employer response to the application;
(b) file submissions or witness statements or other material in accordance with the Commission's directions;
(c) attend a member assisted conciliation conference convened in this matter; or
(d) comply with an order for the production of documents issued by the Commission dated 27 March 2025.
"Mr Samma then wrote '1.25' on a page, to represent the current business turnover, he then drew up a line up the page and wrote '2M'. Mr Samma stated '$2 mil, that's all I fucking want from you.' I asked Mr Samma to clarify that what he wanted me to do was take the company turnover from 1.25 to 2 million without any further support or resource. Mr Samma stated 'yes.' I made a comment to the effect that Mr Samma's direction was idiocy. Mr Samma queried whether I called him an idiot. I stated that I did not, and that I was referring to the business strategy that he was proposing. Mr Samma then picked up a stack of papers and slammed them on the desk. Mr Samma approached me and stated 'you will be handing in your resignation on the 6th of December'. I did not respond to this. Mr Samma was irate and was yelling and swearing at me and I felt incredibly unsafe due to Mr Samma's aggressive behaviour and left the meeting."
"Mr Samma stated that I no longer worked for him and directed me to stop speaking with Olive Lane staff. I stated that I did still work for Olive Lane. Mr Samma stated we parted ways last Monday (25 November 2024). I asked Mr Samma on what grounds had we parted ways. Mr Samma stated it was on the ground that he didn't want me working for the company anymore. I asked Mr Samma to put that in writing. Mr Samma stated I didn't have a contract with him and that he didn't have a contract with me. I stated I had a contract with Olive Lane catering. Mr Samma reiterated that I did not have a contract with him and that we had parted ways. I stated as an employer and employee there was a protocol that needed to be followed. Mr Samma stated that I had said 'I quit' during the meeting on 25 November. I denied that I had said 'I quit' and stated that Mr Samma had demanded my resignation which was illegal. Mr Samma stated that was not illegal. Mr Samma repeated that I did not work for him anymore. Mr Samma stated that after Wednesday I would not be paid again. Mr Samma directed me to return my company laptop and key. I again asked Mr Samma to put his directions into writing."
"Hi olivia as per our discussions as per last Monday , you don't work for the company anymore And after this Wednesday pay cycles you will not be receiving any more pay from us If you have a issue with this you can town to Theo I would appreciate a level of professionalism with customers and instruct them to call Tina and James on their respective phone numbers for any future enquires and issues My understanding , you have a laptop and key to warehouse , I can organise a pick up for them when they are available for pick up at your earliest convenience Regards Azzam."
Regarding our recent phone conversation today at 1.28pm and in response to your text message thereafter in which you indicated I was terminated as of last Monday. (Copy and highlighted below for transparency) ...
[copy of text included as per [12] above]
... For transparency the statements you made in this phone call were as follows:
I wish to clarify and correct the false statements you made, those being:
It is evident that our professional relationship is strained, and we disagree over the validity that I have in fact been dismissed. Furthermore, you have restricted my ability to perform my role by limiting my communication with staff; preventing me from coming into the office; and withholding operational information. I believe we have two options to move forward in a constructive manner for both parties.
For clarity, this email is not my resignation nor do I accept the unfair grounds upon which you have attempted to dismiss me.
I look forward to you responding, and ALL further correspondence being in writing through email. Should you restrict my access further by cutting off my work email you can contact me at [redacted]."
Step 1: Estimate the remuneration the applicant would have received, or have been likely to have received, if the employer had not terminated the employment (remuneration lost).
Step 3: Discount the remaining amount for contingencies.
Step 4: Calculate the impact of taxation to ensure that the employee receives the actual amount he or she would have received if they had continued in their employment.
In determining the remuneration that the employee would have received, or would have been likely to receive, the Commission is required to give its attention to an actual state of facts... In each case, it is necessary for the Commission to address itself to the question whether, if the actual termination had not occurred, the employment would have been likely to continue, or would have been terminated at some time by another means. It is necessary for the Commission to make a finding of fact as to the likelihood of a further termination, in order to be able to assess the amount of remuneration the employee would have received, or would have been likely to receive, if there had not been the actual termination.
[1] On 21 January 2025 and 13 March 2025, Mr Samma acknowledged the Commission's correspondence. To the extent Mr Samma was not the appropriate contact person for the respondent, Mr Samma's 21 January 2025 correspondence stated that the Commission's correspondence had been forwarded to the "director"
[2] Exhibit 1, Digital Court Book (DCB) 3-32
[4] Mohazab v Dick Smith Electronics Pty Ltd [1995] IRCA 625, 62 IR 200 at 205-206; Khayam v Navitas English Pty Ltd [2017] FWCFB 5162 at [50]; cf NSW Trains v Mr Todd James [2022] FWCFB 55; 316 IR 1 at [45] which concluded that s 386(1)(a) means termination of the employment relationship and/or the contract of employment. In this respect see Shane John Varichak v COG Regional Team Pty Ltd [2022] FWCFB 37 at [33]
[6] Selvachandran v Peteron Plastics Pty Ltd [1995] IRCA 333; (1995) 62 IR 371; Walton v Mermaid Dry Cleaners Pty Ltd [1996] IRCA 267; (1996) 142 ALR 681
[7] Bartlett v Ingleburn Bus Services Pty Ltd [2020] FWCFB 6429 at [19]; Reseigh v Stegbar Pty Ltd [2020] FWCFB 533 at [55]
[8] Gibson v Bosmac Pty Ltd [1995] IRCA 222; (1995) 60 IR 1 at 7; Central Queensland Services Pty Ltd v Tara Odgers [2020] FWCFB 304 at [42]; Chubb Security Australia Pty Ltd v Thomas Print S2679 at [41]; Bartlett v Ingleburn Bus Services Pty Ltd t/as Interline Bus Services [2020] FWCFB 6429 at [19] and [21]; Crozier v Palazzo Corporation Pty Ltd (t/as Noble Park Storage and Transport) (2000) 98 IR 137 at [75]
[10] Byrne v Australian Airlines Ltd (1995) 185 CLR 410 at [128]
[11] Print R0235; [1998] AIRC 989; (1998) 88 IR 21. This approach was articulated in the context of the Fair Work Act 2009 (Cth) in Bowden v Ottrey Homes Cobram and District Retirement Villages Inc T/A Ottrey Lodge [2013] FWCFB 431; 229 IR 6 and Double N Equipment Hire Pty Ltd t/a A1 Distributions v Humphries [2016] FWCFB 7206 at [16] (Double N Equipment Hire)
[12] See Ellawala v Australian Postal Corporation Print S5109 (AIRCFB, Ross VP, Williams SDP, Gay C, 17 April 2000) (Ellawala) at [34]
[13] He v Lewin [2004] FCAFC 161; 137 FCR 266 at [58]
[18] Enhance Systems Pty Ltd v Cox PR910779 (AIRCFB, Williams SDP, Acton SDP, Gay C, 31 October 2001) at [39]
[19] Wynn v NSW Insurance Ministerial Corporation [1995] HCA 53, 184 CLR 485; Ellawalla at [43]
[20] Bowden v Ottrey Homes Cobram and District Retirement Villages Inc T/A Ottrey Lodge [2013] FWCFB 431, 229 IR 6 at [53]
[21] Double N Equipment Hire at [17]; Smith v Moore Paragon Australia Ltd PR942856, [2004] AIRC 57, (2004) 130 IR 446 at [32]
[22] The superannuation guarantee percentage at the time of the dismissal
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Olivia Moncur
The Trustee for Olive Lane Wholesale Unit Trust [2025] FWC 1885
(2000) 98 IR 137
(1995) 185 CLR 410
(1995) 62 IR 371
(1998) 88 IR 21
(2004) 130 IR 446
(1996) 142 ALR 681
(1995) 60 IR 1