[2025] FWC 3259
General information, not legal advice.
Fair Work Commission
2025-10-30
Original judgment source is linked above.
s.394 - Unfair dismissal
Unfairly dismissed; small business employer, small business fair dismissal code, compensation ordered
a) was there compliance with the Small Business Fair Dismissal Code (the Code) on the basis the Respondent had reasonable grounds for forming the belief that the Applicant had engaged in misconduct of a serious nature which justified immediate dismissal;
b) if the Applicant was not dismissed for serious misconduct, was there otherwise compliance with the Code;
c) if found that there was non-compliance with the Code, was the Applicant's dismissal harsh, unjust or unreasonable; and
d) if the Applicant was unfairly dismissed, what remedy should follow?
a) Instalment One in the amount of $10,145.00 (gross) is to be paid by the Respondent to the Applicant by no later than 20 November 2025; and
b) Instalment Two in the amount of $10,145.00 (gross) is to be paid by the Respondent to the Applicant by no later than 18 December 2025.
As part of Precise PG commitment to providing the highest level of training and to incentivise apprentices to honor [sic] their commitment to the apprenticeship offered to buy [sic] Precise PG. We are implementing a Progress Incentive Payment of $2 per hour on a standard 38- hour week.
This PIP will accrue over the course of your apprenticeship and be paid out on the successful full completion of the training contract.
To be eligible for our payment you will need to be employed by Precise PG at the time of receiving your Plumbing and Gas Fitting license.
You will not be eligible for any reason to receive this PIP if the above terms are not met under any circumstances.
As a recognition of your commitment to the company PIP payments will be back dated to 2 April 2022, your date of commencement with the Company.
By signing this form you understand that if for any reason you employment at Precise PG as an apprentice finishes you will not receive this payment.
Precise PG does not require you to accept this offer and you may choose to continue on under the normal pay rate with no PIP incentive.
All other conditions of your employment contract remain unchanged.
We take this opportunity to formally congratulate you for completing your apprenticeship.
Your current employment with Precise Plumbing & Gas is Apprentice Plumber and will cease 23/03/2025. Your new employment with Precise plumbing and Gas will be Qualified Plumber and will commence 24/03/2025. Your new wage will be $55/hr.
You will be paid out all monies owed in accordance with your PIP dated 28/07/2023, acknowledging back payment is to your commencement date of 02/04/2022.
You will be paid out all monies owed in leave, RDO's and other accrued expenses.
We thank you for your ongoing efforts and support to date.
If you have any questions about the terms an conditions of employment, please don't hesitate to contact Mark Savage.
Apologies for all the fuck around on Mirrabooka job i was very under prepared and didn't think we would win that job. I should of left you at the Temple all week and started mirrabrooka next week
I know your very pissed off. That job came through last week. Let's sit down nexts week and have a chat about it you and me.
On 21 May 2025, I met with Mr Diaz at our head office in Osborne Park for a performance discussion. During this meeting I raised concerns including his treatment of employees, the standard of his work, failure to wear his uniform, and his overall attitude.
During the discussion, Mr Diaz expressed frustration, stated that he lacked motivation, and indicated he did not wish to work until he received a PIP payment. I advised him that if he was unwilling to perform his duties, he was to return the company vehicle and tools so they could be used by other employees. Mr Diaz stated he was seeking legal advice and left with the company vehicle and tools.
We would like to extend our sincere apologies for the delay in processing your final payout. We understand the importance of timely and accurate payments and regret any inconvenience this may have caused.
It is our understanding that a verbal agreement was made between you and Mark regarding the payout to be made in instalments. We acknowledge this arrangement has been unsuccessful.
We would like to confirm that the total outstanding amount of $14,566.96 will be paid in full on the final pay date this month, which is scheduled for 02 June 2025.
Should you have any questions or require further clarification, please do not hesitate to reach out...
This letter serves as [sic] summary of our meeting held at Precise Plumbing and Gas head office on 21/05/2025 at 6:45AM regarding your recent conduct.
As discussed, it has been recommended that you being seeking alternative employment while you continue in your current role at Precise Plumbing and Gas. Please be advised that any further recurrence of this behaviour may lead to additional disciplinary action, in accordance with the procedures outlined in Section 10.5 of the Employee Handbook.
The team here at Precise Plumbing and Gas rely on you to be a contributing staff member. As always, I hope you will feel free to discuss with me any problems or concerns that may arise.
On 20/05/2025 you met with Mark Savage at Precise Plumbing & Gas head office. At this
meeting you were advised that your conduct has been unsatisfactory, and it was recommended you seek future employment elsewhere whilst continuing in your current role at Precise Plumbing and Gas. We acknowledge no formal conclusion was reached during this meeting due to your decision to leave the premises abruptly.
On 22/05/2025 you engaged in behaviour that was undermining management and threatening
work rapport. This behaviour will not be tolerated here at Precise Plumbing and Gas and an
improvement of this is required effective immediately.
Future reoccurrences of this behaviour may result in further disciplinary action as per our
disciplinary procedure set out in section 10.5 of the Employee Handbook.
If you wish to respond to this formal warning letter, please do so by replying in writing.
On 20/05/2025 you met with Mark Savage at Precise Plumbing & Gas head office. At this meeting you were advised that your conduct has been unsatisfactory, and it was recommended that you seek future employment elsewhere whilst continuing in your current role at Precise Plumbing and Gas. We acknowledge no formal conclusion was reached during this meeting due to your decision to leave the premises abruptly.
As per your schedule you were due to work at COJC Temple 7:00am - 3:30pm, 21/05/2025, 22/05/2025 & 23/05/2025. Since this meeting you have failed to show up to your work as scheduled with no communication to management, this has now given us a significant delay on major projects.
Future reoccurences [sic] of this behaviour may result in further disciplinary action as per our disciplinary procedure set out in section 10.5 of the Employee Handbook.
If you wish to respond to this formal warning letter, please do so by replying in writing.
Following our previous communications regarding your conduct and attendance, I regret to inform you that I have decided to terminate your employment. Based on your length of service, your notice period is 3 weeks. Your last day working with Precise Plumbing and Gas will be Friday 13/6/2025.
On Friday 13/06/2025, You [sic] will also be paid your accrued entitlements and any outstanding pay, up to and including your last day of employment.
If you have been paid annual leave in advance, any amount of annual leave still owing will be deducted from your final pay.
Kindly arrange to return any company property in your possession, including vehicle, uniform, tools or documents, by your last working day 13/06/2025...
During the discussion, Mr Diaz expressed frustration, stated that he lacked motivation, and indicated he did not wish to work until he received a PIP payment. I advised him that if he was unwilling to perform his duties, he was to return the company vehicle and tools so they could be used by other employees. Mr Diaz stated he was seeking legal advice and left with the company vehicle and tools.
5 When was the Applicant dismissed and was there compliance with the Code?
(1) The Minister may, by legislative instrument, declare a Small Business Fair Dismissal Code.
(2) A person's dismissal was consistent with the Small Business Fair Dismissal Code if:
(a) immediately before the time of the dismissal or at the time the person was given notice of the dismissal (whichever happened first), the person's employer was a small business employer; and
(b) the employer complied with the Small Business Fair Dismissal Code in relation to the dismissal.
It is fair for an employer to dismiss an employee without notice or warning when the employer believes on reasonable grounds that the employee's conduct is sufficiently serious to justify immediate dismissal. Serious misconduct includes theft, fraud, violence and serious breaches of occupational health and safety procedures. For a dismissal to be deemed fair it is sufficient, though not essential, that an allegation of theft, fraud or violence be reported to the police. Of course, the employer must have reasonable grounds for making the report.
In other cases, the small business employer must give the employee a reason why he or she is at risk of being dismissed. The reason must be a valid reason based on the employee's conduct or capacity to do the job.
The employee must be warned verbally or preferably in writing, that he or she risks being dismissed if there is no improvement. The small business employer must provide the employee with an opportunity to respond to the warning and give the employee a reasonable chance to rectify the problem, having regard to the employee's response. Rectifying the problem might involve the employer providing additional training and ensuring the employee knows the employer's job expectations.
In discussions with an employee in circumstances where dismissal is possible, the employee can have another person present to assist. However, the other person cannot be a lawyer acting in a professional capacity.
A small business employer will be required to provide evidence of compliance with the Code if the employee makes a claim for unfair dismissal to Fair Work Australia, including evidence that a warning has been given (except in cases of summary dismissal). Evidence may include a completed checklist, copies of written warning(s), a statement of termination or signed witness statements.
.... It may be that the termination is harsh but not unjust or unreasonable, unjust but not harsh or unreasonable, or unreasonable but not harsh or unjust. In many cases the concepts will overlap. Thus, the one termination of employment may be unjust because the employee was not guilty of the misconduct on which the employer acted, may be unreasonable because it was decided upon inferences which could not reasonably have been drawn from the material before the employer, and may be harsh in its consequences for the personal and economic situation of the employee or because it is disproportionate to the gravity of the misconduct in respect of which the employer acted.[22]
[33] The first step in this process - the assessment of remuneration lost - is a necessary element in determining an amount to be ordered in lieu of reinstatement. Such an assessment is often difficult, but it must be done. As the Full Bench observed in Sprigg:
'... we acknowledge that there is a speculative element involved in all such assessments. We believe it is a necessary step by virtue of the requirement of s.170CH(7)(c). We accept that assessment of relative likelihoods is integral to most assessments of compensation or damages in courts of law.'
[34] Lost remuneration is usually calculated by estimating how long the employee would have remained in the relevant employment but for the termination of their employment. We refer to this period as the 'anticipated period of employment'...[32]
7.2.1 Remuneration that the Applicant would have received (s 392(2)(c))
7.2.2 Remuneration earned (s 392(2)(e) and income reasonably likely to be earned (s 392(2)(f))
... A discount for contingencies is a means of taking account of the various probabilities that might otherwise affect earning capacity. At the time of hearing, any such impact on an applicant's earning capacity between the date of termination and the hearing will be known. It will not be a matter of assessing prospective probabilities but of making a finding on the basis of whether an applicant's earning capacity has in fact been affected during the relevant period.[35]
a) the amount of remuneration received by the person, or that he or she was entitled to receive (whichever is higher) in the 26 weeks before dismissal ($54,340.00); and
Based on the Applicant's rate of pay of $55.00 per hour over 38 hours a week - the gross weekly amount is $2,090.00.
0% as no significant element of future economic loss (no basis for any deduction for contingencies)

[2] Fair Work Act 2009 (Cth) s 382 (Act).
[3] Cubillo v Commonwealth [2000] FCA 1084; (2000) 103 FCR 1, 45-7 [118]-[123]; Flint v Lowe (1995) 22 MVR 1; S v M (1984) 36 SASR 316, 319-20.
[4] Gelagotis v Esso Australia Pty Ltd [2018] FWCFB 6092, [119].
[5] Ibid, citing Adami v Maison de Luxe Ltd [1924] HCA 45; (1924) 35 CLR 143, 153-4 (Issacs ACJ), and Laurinda Pty Ltd v Capalaba Park Shopping Centre Pty Ltd [1989] HCA 23; (1989) 166 CLR 623, 658 (Deane and Dawson JJ).
[7] [2017] FWC 3930, [62]-[64].
[8] Ryman v Thrash Pty Ltd [2015] FWCFB 5264, [36] ('Ryman').
[11] [2017] FWCFB 6732 ('Grandbridge').
[14] Ibid [39], cited in Grandbridge (n 11) [28].
[15] Pinawin v Domingo [2012] FWAFB 1359, [29] ('Pinawin').
[17] Ibid, cited in Ryman (n 8) [39]; see also Grandbridge (n 11) [28].
[24] Selvachandran v Peteron Plastics Pty Ltd [1995] IRCA 333; (1995) 62 IR 371, 373.
[28] Kable v Bozelle [2015] FWCFB 3512, [17].
[32] Ibid [24], quoting Ellawala v Australian Postal Corporation (Australian Industrial Relations Commission, Ross VP, Williams SDP, Gay C, 17 April 2000) [33]-[34] ('Ellawala').
[33] [2015] FWCFB 2267, [21] ('McCulloch').
[35] Ibid [43] quoted in McCulloch (n 33) [21].
[36] Veal v Sundance Marine Pty Ltd [2013] FWCFB 5205, [5].
[37] Biviano v Suji Kim Collection (Australian Industrial Relations Commission, Ross VP, O'Callaghan SDP, Foggo C, 28 March 2002), [34]; McCulloch (n 33).
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Nicholas Diaz
Precise Plumbing And Gas Pty. Ltd. [2025] FWC 3259
(1995) 22 MVR 1
(1984) 36 SASR 316
(1924) 35 CLR 143
(1989) 166 CLR 623
(2000) 103 FCR 1
(1995) 185 CLR 410
(1995) 62 IR 371
(1998) 88 IR 21
(2013) 229 IR 6