[2025] FWC 2607
General information, not legal advice.
Fair Work Commission
2025-09-04
Original judgment source is linked above.
s.394 - Application for unfair dismissal remedy
Application for an unfair dismissal remedy - dismissed for refusing drug and alcohol breath test - reasons for request for test not clearly stated - direction to undertake a test is not reasonable where reason not made clear - sanction for refusing test not stated in drug and alcohol policy - failure to provide written allegation prior to termination meeting - summary dismissal not justified - dismissal unfair - compensation ordered
I soon felt the "quick chat'' turning into an interrogation against me, so I asked, "On what grounds are you asking me to do this test?"
I was again confused, and I asked, "On what grounds does that have anything to do with me?"
Joel responded and said that it is a random drug and alcohol test.
I replied, "No it's not because this feels like it is with intent."
David then explained that the Company can conduct a random drug and alcohol test. I agreed and explained to David that this feels like it is being forced with intent.
Joel proceeded to advise that the test will be conducted under "Post incident and for cause."
Confused, I asked, "What post incident have I created and what for cause came from it?"
Joel proceeded to then respond with the same comments about Chris again. I asked, "What does that have to do with me?"
I said, "I am happy to do the test, provided you tell me on what grounds I am being asked to do it on?"
Joel responded again with the "Post incident and for cause," purpose.
I replied, "So you are doing this based on assumption or perception through association?"
I was now getting defensive because I felt my character and integrity was being unreasonably attacked based on their false pretences.
I proceeded to try and explain to Tim what was going on, in hope he would help me, and he responded with, "So take the test."
I explained to Tim that I am happy to take the test but I want to know on what grounds first and then I will do it.
Joel then immediately started discussing concerns about Chris again.
By this point I realized I had none in the room supporting me. There were 3 men in power, within the room, collaborating with no intention of safe practice or consideration for me.
Joel continued to talk about Chris and then I asked Joel to, "Stop, stop, stop, please stop, this is so wrong."
I mentally and emotionally had enough of the conversations going around in circles, every time I was trying to get clarification on why I was being treated this way.
I looked at Tim and asked, "If I don't do the test, what are my options?"
I stood up and said, "Thank you" and left the room.
As advised by Tim yesterday, the meeting is to discuss your refusal to undertake a breath test. Your support person does not participate in the meeting, they simply witness the meeting on your behalf.
I advised "Because I was misled to believe it was a chat about another colleagues wellbeing.
Then there was a total of 3 males within the room with me, forcing me to do the test with no consideration for safe practice or procedures.
Mr Golinski interjected again and said, "What does that have to do with anything?" and said "Oh anyway, doesn't matter".
I continued to explain, "I had no support and there was no duty of care for me"
This letter serves to confirm the discussion that took place yesterday, during which the company made the decision to summarily terminate your employment on the grounds of serious misconduct. Also present at the meeting were Joel Robson (HR Manager), Askin Ahmet (your nominated support person).
At the start of the meeting you requested a letter detailing the allegations against you. I advised that you were already aware of the issues, as they had been discussed at length during our meeting last Thursday afternoon. I also confirmed that a formal letter would follow today's meeting.
At last Thursday's meeting, you asked what the consequences would be if you refused to undertake the test. I advised you that refusal to comply with a reasonable direction under our Drug and Alcohol Policy is considered a serious matter, and would result in suspension and potentially, termination of employment.
You also requested a copy of the company's Drug and Alcohol Policy, which was provided to you. I reminded you that, given your involvement in previous related matters concerning your team, you are well acquainted with the policy and its requirements.
You queried Joel's presence at the meeting. I explained that Joel had led the discussion with you last Thursday and was therefore best placed to address any questions arising from that meeting.
As reiterated during our discussions, the company was considering the termination of your employment and you were given the opportunity to present any valid reason as to why this action should not be taken. You responded by stating, "You should be giving me a valid reason why I should be terminated."
I again referred to the discussions last Thursday, noting your initial agreement to undertake a drug and alcohol test, followed by your subsequent refusal, constitutes a breach of company policy. You stated that your refusal was based on the belief that you had not been given a valid reason for the test, and that you felt you were being implicated due to your association with a colleague, Chris. Joel clarified that this was not the case and that the request was made in the context of a post-incident/show-cause situation. You asked, what incident?.
Joel further explained that your behaviour on the day in question was concerning. You were observed speaking loudly in the office and appeared confused, at one point asking aloud, "What day is it?"
I stated that the fact you had taken a four-hour lunch and admitted to consuming alcohol during that time provided sufficient grounds for the company to direct you to undertake a test. Your refusal to comply is a clear breach of our Drug and Alcohol Policy.
After further discussion, including your assertion that the situation was "unjust," I again provided you with an opportunity to present a valid reason for your refusal. You reiterated your belief that the situation was driven solely by your association with Chris. Joel reminded you of the company's duty of care to all employees and that any indication of impairment must be acted upon appropriately.
Following these discussions, I advised you that the company had made the decision to summarily terminate your employment on the grounds of serious misconduct. The meeting was concluded at that point.
a) a requirement that Ms Tamati be familiar with and observe the company's policies as varied from time to time (1.8);
b) a requirement to follow all reasonable and lawful directions given by the company including complying with company policies and procedures (6.2 f.);
c) a statement that failure to comply with policies and procedures may result in counselling and disciplinary action being taken under the company's disciplinary policy and procedures (6.2); and
d) a right for the company to terminate the employment immediately by giving written notice and without providing any compensation or payment in lieu of notice if Ms Tamati failed or refused to comply with any lawful direction given by the company through its authorised representative (10.3).
a) Employees must comply with the policy and procedure. > > b) All employees are required to be drug and alcohol free whilst at work, including on meal breaks.
c) The company testing program includes testing for:
i) Pre-employment drug and alcohol screening;
ii) Reasonable suspicion;
iii) Random drug and alcohol testing (external third party certified testing agency; and
iv) Post incident drug and alcohol testing.
d) Employees will be required to undertake breath tests and/or breath analysis for alcohol.
e) A description of the random drug and alcohol testing program which includes:
i) Testing will be conducted under a controlled environment with an external provider or an approved or certified management representative;
ii) Testing is to occur across the relevant business; and
iii) All facets of the business will be tested from management, supervisors, team leaders, employees labour hire, and visitors.
f) A description of the drug and alcohol testing procedures. It involves:
i) The collector introducing themself and gathering each donor's name, identification, and other details;
ii) The collector ensuring the donor has not eaten or consumed fluids within 20 minutes of the test being conducted; and
iii) Definitions of negative, non-negative and positive results. For alcohol testing the definitions turn on the percentage of blood alcohol content (BAC) detected in the test.
g) The procedures for oral fluid and urine testing for drugs are then described. The procedures are similar to the alcohol testing already described. An additional definition for positive results is provided where employees admit or boast about drug use in front of two or more employees.
h) The process to be followed after a non-negative or positive test is:
i) The employee is stood down;
ii) The employee is transported home;
iii) If transport is refused the offer must be repeated in front of a witness and noted on a form;
iv) The employee will be required to use sick or annual leave;
v) The employee is advised of the result and given the opportunity to respond; and
vi) An investigation will take place and findings will be considered. This information should be considered prior to the implementing of disciplinary action.
i) The consequences of non-negative and positive test results which are:
i) For a first non-negative result an employee may, at a senior managers discretion including whether the company may give leniency, be instantly dismissed or be given a written warning lasting 12 months; and
ii) For a second result within 12 months the employee may be instantly dismissed.
j) Provision for testing to occur in the event of an incident, injury, or near miss where the employees involved may be required to undergo a drug and alcohol test. If an employee returns a positive confirmatory result they may be instantly dismissed.
k) A separate section dealing with refusing or interfering with a drug and/or alcohol test which provides:
i) All employees are required to undergo a drug and alcohol test when directed;
ii) An employee will breach the procedure if they refuse or fail a drug and/or alcohol test or interfere with a test sample
l) Provisions are also made dealing with self-identification, prescription and non-prescription drugs.
m) A statement about the company's prevention emphasis through providing support and education programs.
n) Appendix 1 to the procedure provides a list of activities that are identified as high risk activities stating that workers are prohibited for carrying out those activities when they return a BAC reading above 0.00%. (The list does not include the duties performed by Ms Tamati.)
o) Appendix 2 lists signs and symptoms of alcohol and drug use. The signs and symptoms for alcohol use are listed as:
i) Staggering, unsteady on feet:
ii) Slurred or incoherent speech:
iii) Confusion:
iv) Disorientation (uncertainty of person, place, or time):
v) Inappropriate behaviour and emotional responses (e.g., mood swings): and
vi) Altered state of consciousness.
a) Employees must abide by company policies, treat others respectfully, care for property, and perform work to agreed standards.
b) Examples of misconduct which include bullying, harassment, fraud, assault, negligence, property damage, absenteeism, and failure to follow policies.
c) That allegations are investigated thoroughly, and employees may be suspended with pay during the investigation for serious breaches.
d) Disciplinary actions may include warnings, counselling, demotion, or dismissal. Serious misconduct may result in instant dismissal.
a) The breach of a lawful and reasonable drug and alcohol policy simpliciter (e.g., attending work with a prohibited substance in the system above a stipulated threshold) can constitute a valid reason for dismissal under section 387(a) of the Fair Work Act, even if there is no evidence of impairment.
b) Blanket drug and alcohol policies that provide for disciplinary action, including dismissal for breaches, may be lawful and reasonable. This is particularly true for employees performing safety-critical work or work where impaired performance could jeopardize health, safety, or the employer's reputation.
c) The reasonableness of such policies is supported by the fact that there is no reliable scientific test for impairment from drug use. Employers face challenges in determining when and how much of a prohibited substance was consumed, making blanket policies a reasonable tool for managing risk.
d) Drug and alcohol policies are designed to manage macro-level risks, such as reputational damage, legal liability, and workplace safety. These risks exist regardless of whether an employee is impaired at work, as the mere presence of prohibited substances in their system can pose broader risks to the employer's business.
e) While breach of a lawful and reasonable policy may provide a valid reason for dismissal, mitigating factors - such as the employee's personal circumstances, lack of understanding of the policy, or general workplace context - are relevant under section 387(h). These factors must be weighed separately in the overall assessment of whether the dismissal is harsh, unjust, or unreasonable.
f) If an employer asserts that an employee was impaired at work, or there was a risk of impairment, this must be assessed under section 387(a) to determine whether it constitutes a valid reason for dismissal. However, a finding of impairment or risk of impairment is not required to justify a dismissal for breach of a drug and alcohol policy.
If a command relates to the subject matter of the employment and involves no illegality, the obligation of the servant to obey it depends at common law upon its being reasonable. In other words, the lawful commands of an employer which an employee must obey are those which fall within the scope of the contract of service and are reasonable. ... But what is reasonable is not to be determined, so to speak, in vacuo. The nature of the employment, the established usages affecting it, the common practices which exist and the general provisions of the instrument, in this case an award, governing the relationship, supply considerations by which the determination of what is reasonable must be controlled. When an employee objects that an order, if fulfilled, would expose him to risk, he must establish a case of substantial danger outside the contemplation of the contract of service.

[5] See Miller v University of NSW [2003] FCAFC 180; 132 FCR 147 at [13]
[6] See Bartlett v Ingleburn Bus Services Pty Ltd [2020] FWCFB 6429 at [19] and Sydney Trains v Trevor Cahill [2021] FWCFB 1137 at [60].
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MQT Pty Ltd [2025] FWC 2607
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