26The telephone at the back office was out of its cradle when the Fire Brigade arrived. The presence of soot indicates that it was out of its cradle prior to the fire. Photographs taken after the fire show the Connectors and the composite connector for the Repeat Monitor were unplugged and were found amongst the bundle of wires on the floor.
27On 22 December 2008, Mr Naboulsi was interviewed by police. The interview was recorded. The defendant tendered the Electronically Recorded Interview of a Suspected Person (ERISP) on this application. Mr Naboulsi was specifically asked about his conduct at 11.24 pm. The following exchange occurred:
Q699 Mohamad, at 11:24 pm the CCTV system indicates you were walking into the server room.
A Yeah
Q 700 OK And basically by, by the investigations made it appears that you reach into the control cabinet like, where the security system is and just out of view of camera 4 you disconnect the CCTV video, the feed---
A Right
Q 700 --- which basically brings it down. The video feeds the camera 4 and 5 and 7 are lost momentarily. Camera 1 to 8 are lost completely for two, two point eight seconds. Then you've reinserted the plug serving cameras 1 to 8 second, camera 1 to 8, sorry. I will rephrase that
A Yeah, go on
701 You re-insert the plugs serving camera, cameras 1 a couple of seconds later.
A I don't know.
Q702 You don't know?
A No
Q703 Is there anything you can tell me as to why that would----
A Sorry, I don't remember, it has been that long, yeah. So just recap, say that again. Sort of, I just really got confused.
Q704 Basically you have gone into the server room----
A Right.
Q704 ----and you've disconnected the plug into the video feed----
A Right
Q704 --- and you've disconnected the plug basically, all right, and then you've reinserted that plug.
A No
Q705 No
A No
Q706 Is it something you would do usually?
A Oh, it depends. Like I, like I said, I don't know what the actual, what was wrong, up on that day--
Q707 Yeah
A ----like it could be the, like, testing them, it could be anything really.
Q Ah hmm
A Yeah
Q709 Did you ever have cause to fiddle with any of the plugs?
A Oh, if they've been, yeah, you would fiddle around with them to make sure the connections were right or I don't know that specific night---
Q 710 Mmm
A --- but ah, it could be anything like, it's really hard to say, it has been that long.
Q 711 Mmm
A Yeah, like, why would I have done it? It could be for any reason. I could have gone in there, there was a camera glitch. It could have been, there was something wrong or anything like that.
Q 712 Yeah
A Just testing cables, I don't know.
Q 713 Because basically what it indicates is O. K. I will try and put it in laymen's to you,....
A Yeah, no, that's fine, yeah, yeah.
Q 714 You've walked into the server room---
A Yeah, yep, yep
Q 714 ----and obviously, and then you've got fourteen cameras in the place.
A Yeah, yeah
Q 715 O.K. And cameras 1 to 8 have gone down---
A Yeah
Q715 ----for two point eight seconds and then come back on. Now, our investigations reveal that the only way that could have happened is that the plug----
A Yeah
Q715 ----that operates cameras 1 to 8 was pulled out for two point eight seconds and then put back in. Do you remember doing that or can you offer any reason why you would do that?
A Well, I, no, no, I am sorry, no.
Q716 O.K.
A I cannot remember at all
Q717 All right
A It's like I'm thinking how would, why would it be three cameras for two point eight seconds, is that the---
Q718 No, eight cameras. So basically what it is----
A All eight cameras went down or----
Q719 No, yeah. From my understanding of the CCTV system and our investigations into this matter
A Yeah
Q 720 At the back of that, you know----
A DVR?
Q720 ----your hard drive there feeding the cameras---
A Yeah, the DVR
Q720 ----there's two plugs, all right?
A All right
Q721 One plug----
A Two plugs----
Q722 Yeah, two plugs go in the back?
A Yeah
Q723 One plug controls the cameras 1 to 8----
A Right
Q723 ----and the second plug controls cameras 1 to 16. Now I understand you have only had fourteen cameras. So----
A O. K.
Q723 ----the second one would only control six cameras.
A Right
Q724 So our investigations reveal that whilst you're in that service room, one of those plugs was being removed----
A Right
Q724 ----for two point eight seconds and then put back in
A O.K.
Q725 So whilst that plug's removed the cameras 1 to 8 go down, the screen goes blue.
A Right
Q726 Right. And I will just show you a photograph which is this one here. And that indicates that the monitor at the front thing. O.K. So at 11.00, 11.00, where is it? Year, 11.26 pm O. K.---
A Ah hmm
Q726 --- where that monitor indicates, that first group of cameras goes blue which indicates cameras 1 to 8 had gone down
A Right
Q727 See how the split screen's there, you can see the image is----
A To tell you the truth it just looks blue to me
Q728 Yeah
A Yeah, sorry
Q729 It's a bit better on the one we've got
A O.K. Yeah
Q730 I can indicate to you that those cameras on the top half of that screen----
A Yeah
Q730 ----go down for two point eight seconds---
A All right
Q 730 ----and then come back on. O.K.
A It could be that I've, so what, you have got to physically pull it out?
Q731 You have to physically pull the cord out
A No. Not that I know of.
Q732 You do not remember doing that?
A I could have bumped it. No, no, all I can remember is either I bumped it----
Q733 Yeah
A ----or fixing up cables underneath----
Q734 Yeah
A ----and like you, if they're bent or whatever it is.
Q735 Sorry mate
A Yeah
Q736 That was the wrong photo I showed you earlier obviously but that is just you there in that server room
A O.K. yeah
Q737 That is at 11.24 O.K. and it appears that you are reaching into the cabinet
A. Which cabinet is that? Yeah, that's the-----
Q738 In the server room. So----
A That would be the um, the phone, the computer cabinet? Is that what cabinet you are talking about?
Q739 Well, as Detective Sergeant McDonald indicated the, the actual computer to the video, like, to the actual CCTV
A That's at the back of the, that's, I am at the front of the door, that's in the back.
Q740 O.K.
A The computer that you guys, the, ah, DVR and that is at the back of the, it is like two metres away.
Q741 Yeah. I think this is just a still of you just entering the room.
A O.K.
Q742 O.K. Because you're in there for about two minutes.
Q743 Yeah
A O.K. Yeah , no, 'cause it's just like looking at that photo, I am actually right at the door
Q744 Yeah
A So that's right where the um, the what's it's called, the patch panel is
Q745 Yeah. So what we're suggesting is----
A Because I normally leave it in there
Q746 Yeah
A So if I am opening up keys, getting everyone to grab keys or whatever it is
Q747 I can indicate from the footage that you into the room and you are in there
A Right
Q748 And whilst you're in the room that's when those cameras drop out like I've mentioned before that the plug's taken out
A O.K. O.K.
Q749 O.K. But can you offer any reason why that plug was taken out?
A No, no.
28It will be a matter for the trial judge, as the tribunal of fact, to decide whether Mr Naboulsi's answers amount to a consciousness of guilt. It would, in my view, be open to the trial judge to infer from the answers given by Mr Naboulsi on his interrogation, viewed in light of the facts agreed by the experts and what is shown in the CCTV footage, that he had revealed that he was implicated in the arson: Woon v The Queen [1964] HCA 23; 109 CLR 529.
29Some considerable time after the fire, the plaintiff caused to be prepared its financial statements for the 2007 financial year. It recorded a net profit after tax of $29,541.71. This figure is inconsistent with the balance sheet and does not tally with the previous year's results.
30On 22 January 2009 Mr Naboulsi was arrested and charged. He was subsequently acquitted by direction.