COUNSEL: If you go to your affidavit of 21 December 2005. It's p. 995, Mr Berger. Do you have that?
WITNESS: Yes.
COUNSEL: Paragraph 7 is the first occasion upon which you speak about any statement of promise by Mr Rosenberg in relation to Project Hardware, isn't it? In the last sentence, that was the first occasion upon which you mentioned it?
WITNESS: Yes.
COUNSEL: Mrs Berger had not suggested in her affidavit of 12 September 2004, when you made yours, that Mr Rosenberg had made any promise to her about Project Hardware at all, did she?
WITNESS: I can't recall.
COUNSEL: We might look at that later. Anything that Mr Rosenberg said to you about taking a position with Project Hardware was irrelevant to issues of how the assets of the trust might be employed, wasn't it?
WITNESS: They were two separate issues, yes.
COUNSEL: Now at a later stage then in Paragraph 14 of that affidavit, can I suggest that you sought to improve your hand further in Paragraph 14 by saying that not only had Mr Rosenberg made a promise in relation to Project Hardware but he'd made a promise in relation to his other assets as well? Do you see that?
WITNESS: In relation to the discussion he had with Sabbie?
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COUNSEL: If you look at Paragraph 14 you say, 'In or about mid 1990, Sabrina told me that she had had a discussion with her father in which he told her in substance that to avoid any dispute between her and her brother over the division of the assets after his death, he would during his life split up his assets between his two children'. Now any discussion that you had had with Mr Rosenberg concerning splitting up his assets between his two children had centred upon the result that would be achieved by the dissolution agreement, wasn't it?---
WITNESS: We discussed it as well, yes.
COUNSEL: You add, 'and that Sabrina would become a director of Fifteenth in order to participate in the management and control of the trust'. Discussions about her becoming a director of Fifteenth were in the context of the arrangements made for the dissolution agreement, weren't they?
WITNESS: Yes.
COUNSEL: Then you add, 'And that the assets of the trust and his other assets would be used for the benefit of Sabrina and her parents while her parents were alive'. Now she never says in her affidavit material that Mr Rosenberg made a promise in relation to his other assets, does she?
WITNESS: I don't know what Sabbie said - I can't recall what Sabbie said in her affidavit.
COUNSEL: You can't recall what she said to you in 1990, can you?
WITNESS: I recall a very traumatic time between the time when Mr Rosenberg had open heart surgery up until the time of the dissolution. It was very clear in my mind.
COUNSEL: Yes, but he made no promise to you and she did not tell you that he made a promise to her that his other assets would be for her benefit, did he?
WITNESS: Well - could you ask the question again please?
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COUNSEL: I put it to you that at no time did Mr Rosenberg say to you and at no time did Mrs Berger say to you that Mr Rosenberg had told her that his other assets would be used for her benefit?
WITNESS: I can't recall at what point he did tell me about his will, that he had provided for Sabbie in the will.
COUNSEL: So you've drawn an inference have you, from what Mr Rosenberg told you about the terms of his will?
WITNESS: He had told me at the time that the trust - the assets - in mid 1990, there was issues in regards to the Project Hardware or to Rosekay Holdings that had yet to be resolved.
COUNSEL: Is the fact that as a result of something Mr Rosenberg said to you about the terms of his will, you drew an inference?
WITNESS: He said to me that Sabbie wouldn't have to rely on Barry. He said to me that she - he would look after her in the future.
COUNSEL: Yes?
WITNESS: Yes.
COUNSEL: But he didn't say to you that- - -?
WITNESS: And that he's splitting everything up with Barry and Barry gets his and you'll get mine.
COUNSEL: But he didn't say to you and she didn't say that he had said that his other assets would be used for the benefit of Sabrina and her parents whilst her parents were alive, did he?
WITNESS: He said that he would take care of Sabrina into the future.
COUNSEL: You are differentiating there, are you not, between trust assets, Project Hardware and other assets. I'm putting to you that he never said to you anything about the other assets, did he?
WITNESS: What, which other assets are you talking about?
COUNSEL: All right well, can I suggest that the reason that that found its way into your affidavit is because you were concerned about the shareholding that Rangeway had in Project Hardware?
WITNESS: Nothing to do with it.