So you can't go shopping because you can't lift anything?---I do go shopping.
Who lifts the stuff up when you go shopping?---I do.
I thought you told Dr Ryan that you couldn't lift goods when in the supermarket, you had to ask a staff member for assistance?---If it's high I have to, yes.
That must be difficult if your arms are, as you've indicated to His Honour, in the fashion that you are holding them at the moment?---And why would that be?
You told His Honour before that your usual state was as you're portraying it to us physically at the moment, that is, your left arm cradling your right?---Yes. I go, I do the shopping, I get it home delivered. I've never said I never do the shopping. There's things I can do, there's things I can't do.
All right. Are you able to, for example, reach behind yourself like that, couldn't you do that?---No.
Couldn't do that?---No.
How do you put the seat belt on in the car?---Pull the seat belt across.
Do you, all the time?---Yes.
Okay. And your neck, how do you go in the car with your neck? How do you turn around and see what's behind you, or don't you?--- I use my mirrors.
So you don't turn around?---Yes, I've turned around in the car.
Well, as a matter of practice do you turn or do you use the mirrors, what do you do?---I use the mirrors.
Right. So it would be exceptional for you to turn around?---What do you mean exceptional?
It would hardly ever occur. More often than not you'd always use your mirrors and only in an exceptional circumstance, once out of 100 you'd turn around?---No, I can turn around and look out, not a problem.
And you do it like that, by moving your whole body, not by moving your head on top of your shoulders?---Yes, I can do that.
By moving your whole body?---Most of the time.
Not your head on top of your shoulders?---Yes, most of the time.
And that would be because the pain would prevent you from rotating your head turning your neck and looking over your shoulder, for example?---Well, I do do that. Of course I've done that. I've turned my head and I'm in pain all the time.
But what, you just forget about the pain from time to time?---No, you don't forget about the pain. You do it and then you know you've done it. The pain clicks in. The pain's there, you've done it.
What about sitting down having lunch, would you be able to do that?---Yes.
Would you be able to eat using both hands?---Yes.
Would you be able to eat say a hamburger or something like that using both hands?---Both hands, yes.
Holding it in a fashion like this and putting it to your mouth and taking a bite?---Yes.
How would your right arm cope with that?---Easy. As long as I'm not holding my hand up to too long I can do that and it's supported by my breast, no worries.
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Would you be able to walk around a store for example carrying a box under your left arm and get items out of shelves with you right, could you do that?---Yes.
You could do that. How could you do that with the unremitting pain that you've described?---I just do it.
You just do it. So we would see you in absolute agony presumably undertaking that manoeuvre?---Yes.
Would you be able to lift your right arm up like that and hold it there for some time? Right arm, no, no, not that sort of - right arm, like that, would you be able to do that?---Yes.
But as slowly as that, you'd have to obviously take great care to - - -?---I can put it up, yes.
Yes, but you'd have to do it slowly and in great care?---No, I can do it but it hurts.