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[2020] ACAT 68
ACT Civil and Administrative Tribunal
2020-09-08
Original judgment source is linked above.
I apologise for any hurt I have caused Bridget and for any way I have vilified or victimised her.
(a) The first is related to the comments attributed to the apology and the respondent's 'likes' in respect of particular comments.
(b) The second is related to a series of posts the respondent made herself after the apology was posted and the further posts by others responding to them.
(a) An order preventing the respondent from further vilifying trans people or the applicant on the basis of being trans.
(b) An order that the respondent delete all previous derogatory and vilifying media and social media posts that refer to her or trans people.
(a) The referral from the HRC, including many posts on the Facebook page of the Respondent[4].
(b) Applicant's submissions dated 14 July 2019.[5]
(c) Applicant's submissions dated 7 March 2020.[6]
(d) Applicant's schedule of posts now relied on.[7]
(f) Statement of Jennifer Atkinson dated 23 February 2020.[9]
(a) Witness statement dated 11 October 2019, excluding paragraphs 21-22.[11]
(b) Supplementary evidence consisting of other posts that were on the Facebook page that were in chronological order.[12]
(c) A table of responses to the complained of posts.[13]
(a) Ms Clinch first came to know of the respondent after International Women's Day in 2018. The respondent had made comments that led the applicant to make her first complaint to the HRC. The applicant had been told about them by friends and she believes they were on Reddit, Instagram and Facebook. The posts were shared widely across various social media platforms also. It led to an article in Australian media. After she made the complaint this was also made known by the respondent in the same manner. The respondent had been banned by Twitter for this. This last statement may be inadmissible, but it is conceded by the respondent in her statement.
(b) This first complaint led to a mediated outcome in ACAT that involved an apology which was posted by the respondent on her Facebook page on 25 July 2018.
(c) This was followed by 304 comments and shared six times. It is Instance 1 in Exhibit A4.
(d) The applicant regarded what followed as a breach of the mediated agreement and brought proceedings in ACAT to enforce this but discontinued them and made the complaint the subject of these proceedings instead.
(e) Ms Clinch describes herself as a somewhat minor political figure. She ran for election in 2016 and 2018 once at Federal level and once at State level. She had been a member of the Greens. She is no longer involved or a member of a party.
(f) She had been in the Australian Defence Force and in 2010 medically transitioned from life as a male to female. She made submissions to the ADF and they changed their policy that prevented trans service. This put her in the public eye, and she was invited to speak at universities and other community events about this. At a recent event she was pictured with a local councillor and that picture was put on the councillor's social media platform. This led to disapproving emails and phone calls to the councillor. Some of this is the subject of the posts here numbered 31.
(g) Ms Clinch has for the moment withdrawn from public life because of these matters.
(h) She says she cannot put a value on the hurt and impact by having to deal with the complaint and the length of time involved. She left the Greens party because if it. She has found it impossible to shut out the comments as even if she does not look for them, others tell her about them. She has felt humiliated and distressed and fears a repetition of the ACAT egg incident.[15] She has withdrawn from public life. She realised how far it had affected her when Ms Rep was banned by Facebook for a month for an unrelated event and this felt like a weight taken from her.
(a) Ms Rep says in her statement that she is active on social media. She is banned from Twitter and chiefly uses Facebook from which she has been banned from time to time for differing reasons. She does not know all her followers, but many are feminists and lesbians who she says are, like her, supportive of gender nonconformity but are concerned about the impact of "trans activism" on woman's spaces, services and opportunities. She says that as her page is public, posts offer differing and opposing perspectives. She has 757 followers and 1776 friends in total. They include friends, family, old fans / listeners from prior radio jobs she has had in various places, passengers from her time as a tour guide and feminists - the majority of whom she knows only online.
(b) She has been involved in various political organisations, which are predominantly feminist.
(c) In addition to the apology she paid $700 to the applicant to resolve the earlier complaint.
(d) She asserts that the applicant uses what she describes as a derogatory term of TERF about her and her followers. She attached a post by the applicant dated 30 August (the year is not expressed but we assume it was 2018 and was on the applicant's social media page). The post gives a thumbs up to a wiki definition of TERF which on its face is descriptive of the views of the group and not especially offensive - the word exclusionary may be thought an overstatement of the views of some. It is accompanied by words that are quite critical of such persons namely "regressive, misinformed, hateful little creatures..." The comment appears to follow the initial posts following the apology. As will be seen, many of those posts are hard to excuse on any level and no doubt sparked a reaction from the applicant. The words used are restrained by comparison with the comments that appeared on the respondents Facebook page but are not helpful.
(e) The respondent identifies as a feminist with issues concerning trans activism and an interest in political activity that highlights this.
(f) Importantly, the respondent explains the chronology of the initial posts. She has provided extra posts and commentary putting the initial complaints into context.[16]
(g) She says the initial comments were not of concern until after comments by Kelley Glanney and Jordan Aldred, when the discussion became heated and by the end there were 299[17] comments of which 205 were directly following on from these posts which were certainly provocative and anti-feminist.
(h) She says she was not an active participant in the discussion but admits as the applicant has pointed out that she 'liked': some-shown by a thumbs up by a reader whose name can be gleaned by hovering over the symbol with a computer mouse.
(i) The respondent says that she did not invite the comments or coordinate them. The posts are by people many of whom she does not know personally. She says she believes to be true her responses to the complaint in Exhibit R3.
(j) She says the few posts she made involve gender critical comments that reflect her views which she says are honest and reasonable in an ongoing discussion about the impact of what she describes as aggressive trans activism on the human rights of women. She describes herself as a radical feminist and she maintains that there is a need to resist aggressive trans activism. We will assume that there are individuals who engage in such activity, and that the posts of Aldred are seen by the respondent as an example of this.
(k) She maintains she has not vilified anyone. We will assume that she believes this but need to establish objectively whether that is so.
(l) She has also suffered some financial hardship and stress caused by the complaints.
(m) The respondent says she is supportive of gender non-conformity and concerned about the impact of trans activism on women's spaces, services and opportunities. She resides in the ACT and works as a radio presenter at two local stations.
the proper construction of par.(c) requires a party to a contravention to be an intentional participant, the necessary intent being based upon knowledge of the essential elements of the contravention.
The defendants sought to distinguish this finding on the basis that they had played no such active role in relation to the postings on their Facebook page. The point of distinction may be accepted; however, it does not follow that they were not publishers. They facilitated the posting of comments on articles published in their newspapers and had sufficient control over the platform to be able to delete postings when they became aware that they were defamatory. Applying the general law as qualified by the provisions of the Defamation Act_, including_ s 32_, the primary judge did not err in concluding that, in the circumstances revealed in the evidence, the defendants were publishers of third party posts on their Facebook pages._[24]
In my view, the placing of material, whether text, graphics, audio or video, on a website which is not password protected is an act which causes words, sounds, images or writing to be communicated to the public in the sense that they are communicated to any person who utilises a browser to gain access to that website.
Has the respondent engaged in unlawful vilification and/or victimisation of the applicant?
It is unlawful for a person to incite hatred toward, revulsion of, serious contempt for, or severe ridicule of a person or group of people on the ground of any of the following, other than in private:
1. screening recorded material at an event that is open to the public, even if privately organised
2. writing a publicly viewable post on social media
3. speaking in an interview intended to be broadcast or published
5. wearing or displaying clothes, signs or flags observable by the public
Note. Serious vilification is an offence under the Criminal Code, s 750.
(a) make a fair report about an act mentioned in subsection (1); or
(b) communicate, distribute or disseminate any matter consisting of a publication that is subject to a defence of absolute privilege in a proceeding for defamation; or
(c) do an act mentioned in subsection (1) reasonably and honestly, for academic, artistic, scientific or research purposes or for other purposes in the public interest, including discussion or debate about and presentations of any matter.
_1. It is unlawful for a person (the first person) to subject, or threaten to subject, another person (the other person) to any detriment because - _
_(a) the other person, or someone associated with the other person - _
(ii) proposes to take discrimination action_; or_
"discrimination action" means any of the following:
(a) begin a proceeding in the ACAT or a court in relation to this Act;
(b) 'incite' means "to rouse, to stimulate, to urge, to spur on, to stir up or to animate and covers conduct involving commands, requests, proposals, actions or encouragement".
(c) It is not necessary to establish any one was incited or an intention to incite.
(d) The act must be capable of inciting the prescribed reactions in an ordinary member of the class to whom the act is directed/the audience or likely audience.
(e) The context in which the act occurred must be used to assess the capacity of the public to incite the relevant reaction.
(f) The persons to who the act is directed, the audience or likely audience must be identified and considered.
(g) The assessment must be made by reference to the 'ordinary' member of the relevant audience.
Consideration of the apology and associated comments
(a) Comment 1.1 (R2.3): clearly the language expresses views that attack transwomen in a humiliating way. Given the context it must be taken to include the applicant. The audience is described by the respondent in her statement and they would clearly be and were incited by such language. The audience is wider than that - as explained by the applicant - and earlier had gone onto other media and was shared widely. The respondent actually 'liked' this post and we reject the explanation that this does not mean she should be taken as approving it. We accept that robust language expressing a point of view is not necessarily a contravention of the Act and that the bar is high. This post contravenes section 67A.
(b) Comment 1.2 (R2.4): it is said this has been removed but it is likewise a contravention of 67A. It was also 'liked' by the respondent.
(c) Comment 1.3 (R2.1): this is not as bad. On its own it would not be a contravention of section 67A but given what followed and the assertion that she hears about the violence against women perpetrated by trans activists - which impliedly the applicant is - it is part of a vilification of men - including the applicant - who transition to women and contravenes section 67A by being allowed to remain, and by being 'liked' by the respondent.
(d) Comment 1.4 (R2.2) is in the same category as 1.1. There is an argument that the applicant is a bully and that this is not about gender identity. This is unpersuasive. It attacks the applicant by attributing male aggression to her and uses offensive language in doing so. It contravenes section 67A.
(e) Comment 1.5 (R2.6) on its own it may not be so bad but in its context, it continues to incite what was already a growing list of vilifying comments. It was 'liked' by the respondent and contravenes section 67A.
(g) Comment 1.19 (R 2.11) is an example of the impact of the incitement. The writer says "I hate Bridget and I don't even know who he is."
I just went Bridget's page [sic]. Penis people once again bullying women.
Bridget Clinch is a male bully, and the Greens letting him swing his dick like this?
I am showing this to every female supporter I know - my bother may suck, but he still used to be a politician - of all three parties. Certainly none of the older women in any of my craft classes, or support groups for fibro or endo believe that Bridget is a woman.
All women should see the Green's misogyny and contempt for women. I was about to update my membership but instead I'm leaving.[28]
I'm not entirely [sic] what has happened but it seems to me as though through some sort of legal process Beth has been made to deny reality. Your sisters stand with you and support you Beth.[29]
...I do not consider it appropriate to seek to compel the respondent to articulate a sentiment that he plainly enough does not feel. As Hely J pointed out in Jones v Scully at [245], "prima facie the idea of ordering someone to make an apology is a contradiction in terms". The applicant did press for an order requiring a "retraction" by the respondent. I understood the applicant to be seeking a statement of retraction by the respondent. In the circumstances, it seems to me that the practical distinction between an apology and a statement of retraction is slight. I do not consider it appropriate to order the respondent to issue any statement of retraction.
(a) The physical and psychological injuries pleaded.
(c) Loss of salary and other employment entitlements during the time the applicant was off work due to the effects of the breach.
(a) The respondent remove from any website or social media, that she owns or controls, and in particular her Facebook page "Beth Rep" as referred to in these proceedings all posts, statements, information, suggestions or implications, including hyperlinks, contained in Exhibit A4.
(b) The respondent remove from any website or social media, that she owns or controls, and in particular her Facebook page "Beth Rep" as referred to in these proceedings all posts, statements, information, suggestions or implications, including hyperlinks which are the same or of similar effect, whether directly or indirectly, as those contained in Exhibit A4.
(c) The respondent refrain from making, publishing or distributing any statements, information, suggestions or implications, including hyperlinks on any website or social media that she owns or controls, posts which are the same or of similar effect, whether directly or indirectly, as those contained in Exhibit A4.
(d) The respondent pay the applicant the sum of $10,000 by way of compensation.
[2] Mewett v University of Canberra [2018] ACAT 61 at [11]
[3] Clinch v Rep [2020] ACAT 13
[10] The respondent objected to paragraphs 1-5, 8, 9 and 12-19 of the applicant's submissions dated 14 July 2019.
[14] It preceded A4 which was provided in compliance with the earlier order of the Tribunal. Hence the numbering differences
[15] Clinch v Rep [2020] ACAT 13 at [57]
[16] These are all in Exhibit A4 Item 1-18 and Item 2 in Exhibit R3
[17] There were more as we explain later
[19] A person who aids, abets, counsels or procures someone else to do an act that is an unlawful act is taken, for this Act, also to have done the act.
[20] It refers to a person who (a) has aided, abetted, counselled or procured the contravention... and (c) has been in any way, directly or indirectly,
knowingly concerned in, or party to, the contravention.
[22] Giorgianni v. The Queen [1985] HCA 29
[23] Fairfax Media Publications; Nationwide News Pty Ltd; Australian News Channel Pty Ltd v Voller [2020] NSWCA 102
[25] Clinch v Rep [2020] ACAT 13 at [34]- [39]
[26] Adopted from DLH v Nationwide News Pty Ltd (No.2) [2018] NSWCATAD 217 at [10]
[27] Exhibit A4, item 1.2, comment 'liked' by the respondent
[28] Exhibit A4, item 1.4, comment 'liked' by the respondent
[29] Exhibit A4, item 1.5, comment 'liked' by the respondent
[30] Exhibit A4 items 18, 20, 22, 23, 24, 30, 31
CLINCH
REP
Cases cited: Australian Capital Territory v Wang [2019] ACAT 65
Australian News Channel Pty Ltd v Voller [2020] NSWCA 102
Bottrill v Sunol [2018] ACAT 21
Clinch v Rep [2020] ACAT 13
DLH v Nationwide News Pty Ltd (No.2) [2018] NSWCATAD 217
Fairfax Media Publications; Nationwide News Pty Ltd; Jones v Toben [2002] FCA 1150
Giorgianni v. The Queen [1985] HCA 29
Kovac v Australian Croatian Club Ltd (No 2) [2016] ACAT 4
Mewett v University of Canberra [2018] ACAT 61
Sunol v Collier (No 2) [2012] NSWCA 44
Yorke v Lucas [1985] HCA 65; (1985) 158 CLR 661
(1985) 158 CLR 661