[2025] FCA 552
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Federal Court of Australia
2025-05-27
Ms J, Markovic J
Original judgment source is linked above.
AUSTRALIAN SECURITIES AND INVESTMENTS COMMISSION
Note: Entry of orders is dealt with in Rule 39.32 of the Federal Court Rules 2011.
(1) all documents obtained by ASIC during its investigation into ASX described below which resulted in this proceeding either:
(a) pursuant to notices issued under the ASIC Act or the Corporations Act 2001 (Cth); or
(b) as voluntary productions by third parties; and
(2) transcripts of all voluntary interviews, or examinations conducted pursuant to s 19 of the ASIC Act in relation to ASIC's investigation, and copies of all documents referred to in those transcripts,
save for any documents obtained from the ASX.
(1) two draft witness statements and one signed statement (all from the same witness, Yuval Rooz) that were obtained by ASIC during its investigation of suspected contraventions of the ASIC Act and the Corporations Act by ASX and others (Rooz Statements); and
(2) nine file notes prepared by ASIC's solicitors and ASIC officers of the two interviews with Mr Rooz (File Notes).
A non-corporate Commonwealth entity is not to start court proceedings unless the entity has received written legal advice from lawyers whom the entity is allowed to use in the proceedings indicating that there are reasonable grounds for starting the proceedings. In urgent cases, the entity may start court proceedings on the basis of oral legal advice that there are reasonable grounds for starting the proceedings. Confirmation of that advice is to be obtained in writing at the earliest opportunity.
(1) on 16 August 2023 he attended a voluntary interview with Greg McLeod, senior investigator, Investigation and Enforcement Action, ASIC, another member of the Investigation team, solicitors in the employ of NRF, including Laura Crick a senior associate at NRF, and his lawyers. The interview was conducted by Microsoft Teams (First Interview); and
(2) on 14 November 2023 he attended a second voluntary interview with Mr Boscoscuro, ASIC's lawyers including Ms Crick, and his lawyers. That interview took place in person in Singapore (Second Interview).
(1) prior to the First Interview, Mr McLeod instructed Ms Crick to prepare a file note of the interview principally so that it could be provided to ASIC's lawyers, including counsel, for the purpose of them providing legal advice to ASIC in relation to the Investigation;
(2) Mr McLeod made handwritten notes in two of his notebooks which record his summary of some of the matters discussed at the First Interview and his thoughts about what Mr Rooz was saying. Mr McLeod prepared his notes so that he could refer to them when reviewing NRF's file note of the First Interview to ensure its accuracy and completeness;
(3) Ms Crick prepared a draft file note of the First Interview which records a summary of her understanding of the matters discussed during the interview. It is not a verbatim transcript of the First Interview; and
(4) Ms Crick prepared four further versions of the draft file note which recorded the comments and queries of various ASIC officers and its lawyers. Those versions of the draft file note record a summary of Ms Crick's understanding of the matters discussed at the First Interview informed by information and comments provided by those ASIC officers and its lawyers. They too are not a verbatim record of the First Interview.
Mr Sulan: At the time that you requested the note, there was no occasion to consider what your main purpose was versus your subsidiary purpose for requesting the note?
Mr McLeod: I did turn my mind to it at that time.
Mr Sulan: But there was no occasion by which you had to do that. That has become necessary for the purposes of this application?
Mr McLeod: No, that's not correct.
Mr Sulan: And, really, what's happening is you're having to think in hindsight, "Well, what was my purpose for requesting the note?"?
Mr McLeod: No, that's not correct.
Mr Sulan: And I just want to ask you this question. If you put aside the need for legal advice, you still would have wanted a note of what Mr Rooz was saying in the voluntary interview; correct?
Mr McLeod: We would require a note, yes
Mr Sulan: Yes. So, in other words, even if you didn't need legal advice, you would still want a note?
Mr McLeod: We would like to have a record of it.
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Mr Sulan: So it's really not possible to rank in hindsight what your purpose for seeking the note was, that is, whether it was a dominant purpose of getting legal advice as opposed to an investigative purpose?
Mr McLeod: No, the purpose of getting the note was to provide it to counsel and our lawyers.
Mr Sulan: Right. And what you're having to do is seek to rank your purposes in hindsight. That's what's really happening?
Mr McLeod: No, that's not correct.
(1) in preparation for the Second Interview, Mr Boscoscuro instructed Ms Crick to prepare a typed file note of the upcoming interview. Mr Boscoscuro's main reason for instructing Ms Crick to prepare a file note was so that it could be provided to ASIC's lawyers for the purpose of them providing advice relevant to the Investigation including advice required by the Legal Services Directions;
(2) Mr Boscosuro took some notes at the Second Interview which summarised what was discussed. He prepared those notes so that he could provide them to Ms Crick to use when preparing her file note of the Second Interview, which he subsequently did;
(3) Ms Crick prepared a handwritten file note of the Second Interview recording a summary of her understanding of the matters discussed; and
(4) Ms Crick subsequently prepared a typed draft file note of the Second Interview which also records a summary of her understanding of the matters discussed during the Second Interview informed by information provided by Mr Boscoscuro. Neither Ms Crick's handwritten file note nor her draft typed file note of the Second Interview is a verbatim record or transcript of that interview.
Mr Sulan: Well, what I want to suggest to you is that there are at least two purposes, the legal advice purpose and the investigative purpose, fact-finding?
Mr Boscoscuro: Again, that's a potential use, yes.
Mr Sulan: Yes. And to seek to rank those purposes is really something you're having to do for the purposes of this application, but it's not really something that would have happened at the time?
Mr Boscoscuro: I fear we may be at a bit of cross-purposes, Mr Sulan. I'm just-I've accepted, I think, in my answers that there may have been a purpose, but it wasn't the-an investigative purpose, but it wasn't the purpose which was-which I recall being front of mind and the purpose for which I took my notes and instructed Ms Crick to prepare.
Mr Sulan: But I'm just suggesting to you that - I mean, naturally, one doesn't seek to rank their purposes at a particular point in time, and this is a task that you're having to do in hindsight, given the nature of this application?
Mr Boscoscuro: I don't think so, Mr Sulan, because what I'm trying to explain to you is what was my purpose at the time, and that's just based-that's based upon my recollection.
Mr Sulan: Yes. And it's something you're having to do in hindsight in-because of the nature of this application?
Mr Boscoscuro: Well, I'm not sure that it's in hindsight. It's-it's a recollection.
Mr Sulan: What I would suggest to you is that even if you hadn't needed or wanted to get legal advice at the time, you still would have wanted an accurate note of what Mr Rooz was saying in the voluntary interview?
Mr Boscoscuro: Are you asking me to speculate?
Mr Sulan: Yes?
Mr Boscoscuro: It's likely-obviously, I-that wasn't the situation, but if it was, as a matter of practice, generally, I would want a file note to be created or some record of an interview.
Mr Sulan: Yes. So even if legal advice wasn't, as you say, front of mind, you still would have wanted the file note?
Mr Boscoscuro: It's likely, yes.
Mr Sulan: Yes. And so when you think about it in those terms, it's hard to elevate one purpose over another, isn't it?
Mr Boscoscuro: In a hypothetical situation, it is difficult.
Mr Sulan: Yes. And, really, what has happened here is that there are - there were two purposes, neither of which was dominant at the particular time, that is, in 2023?
Mr Boscoscuro: No, the opposite. In the actual scenario, not the hypothetical one, the purpose was intentional and clear.
On 8 February 2022, being two days prior to ASX's announcement of its half year results to the market, two meetings took place between ASX and DA representatives. The first meeting took place between, at least, ASX's CEO and DA's CEO. The second meeting took place between members of ASX's and DA's respective project management teams (including the Executive Sponsor for the CHESS Replacement Project at ASX). At one or both of those meetings, representatives of DA and ASX discussed DA delivering to ASX a release candidate for a descoped ITE1 Accreditation (Descoped ITE1 Accreditation Release Candidate). Insofar as statements of intent were made by DA on 8 February 2022, they were conveyed orally and were not, or alternatively were not clearly, documented. Further, any such statements by DA were not documented by way of a delivery plan to ASX prior to 10 February 2022 or at all.
being the items which ASX had identified as necessary to open ITE2 and for Accreditation to commence and return the CHESS Replacement Project to the critical path to "Go-Live" in April 2023 (the Required Work).
- After that meeting, Mr Stevens was of the view that Mr Rooz and Mr Hogben should have a further meeting with the ASX and Digital Asset project teams (given their more detailed knowledge of what was outstanding) to agree precisely what the scope of the Required Work included and to confirm that the Required Work would be undertaken in time to enable the April 2023 "Go-Live" date to be maintained.
- During the afternoon of 8 February 2022, Mr Rooz and Mr Hogben met with the leadership of the ASX and Digital Asset project teams. During that meeting, Mr Rooz reaffirmed Digital Asset's commitment to perform the Required Work in sufficient time to enable the April 2023 "Go-Live" date to be met.
The 10 February releases represented, and it was the fact, that it was ASX's opinion, reasonably held, that the CHESS Replacement Project was on track to meet the "Go-Live" date in April 2023. It was reasonable that ASX was of that opinion in the circumstances which then pertained, including by reason that:
...
- assurances were provided, on 8 February 2022, by Mr Rooz on behalf of Digital Asset to Mr Stevens and Mr Hogben, that prioritisation and resourcing would be provided by Digital Asset to ensure that the Required Work would be performed in sufficient time by Digital Asset to return the CHESS Replacement Project to the critical path for the "Go-Live" date of April 2023;
- confirmation being provided, on 8 February 2022, by Mr Rooz, to the ASX project team, in the presence of the Digital Asset project team, that prioritisation and resourcing would be provided by Digital Asset to ensure that the Required Work would be performed in sufficient time by Digital Asset to return the CHESS Replacement Project to the critical path for the "Go-Live" date of April 2023;
(7) The concept of legal advice is fairly wide. It extends to professional advice as to what a party should prudently or sensibly do in the relevant legal context; but it does not extend to advice that is purely commercial or of a public relations character: ...
(8) Legal professional privilege protects the disclosure of documents that record legal work carried out by the lawyer for the benefit of the client, such as research memoranda, collations and summaries of documents, chronologies and the like, whether or not they are actually provided to the client: ...
(9) Subject to meeting the dominant purpose test, legal professional privilege extends to notes, memoranda or other documents made by officers or employees of the client that relate to information sought by the client's legal adviser to enable him or her to advise: ... The privilege extends to drafts, notes and other material brought into existence by the client for the purpose of communication to the lawyer, whether or not they are themselves actually communicated to the lawyer: ...
(Citations omitted.)
Waiver may be express or implied. Disputes as to implied waiver usually arise from the need to decide whether particular conduct is inconsistent with the maintenance of the confidentiality which the privilege is intended to protect. When an affirmative answer is given to such a question, it is sometimes said that waiver is "imputed by operation of law". This means that the law recognises the inconsistency and determines its consequences, even though such consequences may not reflect the subjective intention of the party who has lost the privilege. Thus, in Benecke v National Australia Bank, the client was held to have waived privilege by giving evidence, in legal proceedings, concerning her instructions to a barrister in related proceedings, even though she apparently believed she could prevent the barrister from giving the barrister's version of those instructions. She did not subjectively intend to abandon the privilege. She may not even have turned her mind to the question. However, her intentional act was inconsistent with the maintenance of the confidentiality of the communication. What brings about the waiver is the inconsistency, which the courts, where necessary informed by considerations of fairness, perceive, between the conduct of the client and maintenance of the confidentiality; not some overriding principle of fairness operating at large.
In my opinion, this exposition is consistent with both Maurice and Mann, subject to the need to look for inconsistency: compare Bayliss v Cassidy (No 2) [2000] 1 Qd R 464; SQMB v Minister for Immigration and Multicultural Affairs [2004] FCA 241; (2004) 205 ALR 392 at [30]-[44], A Corkhill and M Selwyn, "Evolution of the Common Law Principle of 'Issue Waiver' " (2008) 82 Australian Law Journal 338. It is not enough to bring about a waiver of client legal privilege that the client is bringing proceedings in which the content of the privileged communications could, as a reasonable possibility, be relevant and of assistance to the other party. For the client to do this is not inconsistent with the maintenance of the privilege, and does not give rise to unfairness of the type in question. What would involve inconsistency and relevant unfairness is the making of express or implied assertions about the content of the privileged communications, while at the same time seeking to maintain the privilege. In this respect, it may be sufficient that the client is making assertions about the client's state of mind, in circumstances where there were confidential communications likely to have affected that state of mind.
(1) Ms Crick, a solicitor at NRF was instructed by ASIC, NRF's client, to prepare a file note of the First Interview and a file note of the Second Interview. In total she prepared seven of the nine File Notes in issue. Each of Ms Crick's file notes records a summary of her understanding of the matters discussed at the First Interview and the Second Interview. They are not verbatim records of those interviews. Each of the typed notes is marked as being confidential and privileged;
(2) ASIC's purpose as explained by Messrs McLeod and Boscoscuro in instructing Ms Crick to prepare those File Notes was for the dominant purpose of ASIC obtaining legal advice;
(3) Mr McLeod instructed Ms Crick to prepare a file note of the interview principally so that it could be provided to ASIC's lawyers and counsel for the purpose of them providing legal advice to ASIC in relation to the Investigation. He also prepared his own notes (see [14] above). In cross-examination Mr McLeod was firm in his evidence that his main purpose for preparing and obtaining the File Notes relating to the First Interview was to obtain legal advice; and
(4) Mr Boscoscuro instructed Ms Crick to prepare a typed file note of the Second Interview so that it could be provided to ASIC's lawyers for the purpose of them providing advice relevant to the Investigation including advice required by the Legal Services Directions. He also prepared a note of the Second Interview to provide to Ms Crick to assist her in preparing her own notes. In cross-examination, Mr Boscosuro was clear about the dominant purpose for which he sought preparation of the File Notes relating to the Second Interview including his own notes. While he accepted that there may be other purposes in preparing a file note, including to have an accurate record, he was firm in his recollection that he instructed preparation of the File Notes of the Second Interview for the purpose of obtaining legal advice.
Has ASIC waived its privilege in the Rooz Statements because of [28] of its concise statement?
Has ASIC waived its privilege in the Rooz Statements and the File Notes because of its production of s 19 examination transcripts?
(1) by 16 September 2024 ASIC was to provide ASX with a list of:
(a) all documents obtained by ASIC during the Investigation either pursuant to notices issued under the ASIC Act or the Corporations Act or as voluntary productions by third parties; and
(b) transcripts of all voluntary interviews, or examinations conducted pursuant to s 19 of the ASIC Act in relation to the Investigation, and copies of all documents referred to in those transcripts,
save for any documents obtained from ASX (Order 2); and
(2) by 19 September 2024 ASIC was to provide ASX with a USB, portable hard drive device or electronic download link containing the documents referred to in the list provided in accordance with Order 2, save for any documents or transcripts or parts thereof over which a claim for privilege is made (Order 4).
I certify that the preceding eighty-one (81) numbered paragraphs are a true copy of the Reasons for Judgment of the Honourable Justice Markovic.
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