[2025] FWC 1405
General information, not legal advice.
Fair Work Commission
2025-05-23
Original judgment source is linked above.
The Applicant then goes on to set out what she submits are the two separate legal issues, as follows:
"To simplify, the two separate legal issues are as follows (separate to dismissal):
A. AHRC was contacted as to breach of Human Rights in regard to discrimination against criminal record
B. Application was made to the FW as to breach of workplace instrument and right enacted of which is that Barto Gold Mining Pty Ltd were advised they had breached their own policy of which I had signed and returned agreement to as part of employment.
I contend to the Commission that it was thus reasonable to be of the belief whilst of perhaps similar contextual terminology of acts done by Barto Gold Mining Pty Ltd that being viewed under legal technicality it is reasonable to have assumed that the actual subject matter of dispute were different and complaint separated from actual dismissal as being the ground of the complaint and thus confusion ensued, if not whereby, Im (sic) actually correct and the initial application should have stood; one dispute being a right to be protected by and utilize a workplace right or instrument and the other as to a direct discrimination against a background characteristic of a person (that being my current criminal history status of which the FW does not decide/aribtrate (sic) such matters)..."[9]
Application to Australian Human Rights Commission
Alex v Costco Wholesale Australia [2014] FWC 1904 (Gostencnik DP, 20 March 2014).
An employee made a general protections dismissal dispute application to the Commission after his dismissal.
The employer objected on the basis that the employee had also made an application to the Australian Human Rights Commission (AHRC) in which the employee alleged that his dismissal was discriminatory and related to his race and colour. The employee argued that the multiple action prohibition did not apply because the AHRC complaint dealt with discrimination alleged to have occurred during employment and consequently was not a dismissal complaint.
The Commission concluded that the multiple actions provisions of the Fair Work Act operated as a bar to the general protections application being made because the AHRC complaint was a complaint made under another law by the applicant in relation to the dismissal and it had not been withdrawn nor failed for want of jurisdiction at the time the general protections dismissal dispute application was made."[10]
Prejudice to the employer (including prejudice caused by the delay)
26 August 2024 1:35pm Respondent emails Applicant advising (in effect) that she would not be employed.
26 August 2024 1:38pm A emails R requesting specifics in writing - no response.
26 August 2024 2:39pm A emails R advising she has received information from WA Police about her criminal record check - no response.
26 August 2024 3:17pm A emails R requesting review - no response.
26 August 2024 4:41pm A emails R providing fresh information and requesting a review - no response.
26 August 2024 5:44pm A emails R setting out her grievances - no response.
26 August 2024 9:36pm A emails R seeking to have her grievance escalated - no response.
27 August 2024 8:04am A emails R providing information regarding the status of her convictions - no response.
27 August 2024 9:45am A forwards certain of the previous emails to another employee of the respondent - no response.
27 August 2024 12:55pm A emails R seeking mediation - no response.
27 August 2024 2:13pm R emails A acknowledging previous emails and advising that it has considered the issues raised, does not believe it has acted inappropriately and wishing the A well in her future endeavours.
27 August 2024 Unspecified A emails R setting out her grievance - no response.
27 August 2024 3:08pm A emails R seeking basis of authority of author of R's email - no response.
27 August 2024 5:51pm A emails R raising further arguments in favour of her grievance - no response.
4 September 2024 9:57am A emails R again suggesting mediation - no response.
"Confusion with complexity comparisons"[12]
Bickley involved a labour hire employee who had named the host firm in his application rather than his actual employer and the argument revolved around whether the FWC should amend his application such that it named his actual employer. It does not appear to have any particular significant relevance in this matter.
"SYC did not contend that it would suffer "real prejudice" by reason of the delay. It did point to the costs it would incur in defending the claim if the extension of time was granted. However, this is not a relevant prejudice, i.e. a prejudice which it would not have suffered if the proceedings had been commenced in time."[13]
Given this, I am not persuaded that the costs borne by the Respondent in responding to and dealing with this claim can be said to be a prejudice.
"Ground 9 was an assertion that the absence of prejudice should have been found to be a positive consideration and not a neutral one. It identifies no error. The absence of a prejudice to the employer is usual in extension of time matters and does not provide a positive basis for finding exceptional circumstances warranting an extension of time for lodgement."[14]
"The analysis of whether there has been a termination at the initiative of the employer for the purpose of s 386(1)(a) is to be conducted by reference to termination of the employment relationship_, not by reference to the termination of the contract of employment operative immediately before the cessation of the employment."[15]_ (emphasis in original)
"Whether an employment relationship exists is a question of fact. Unless and until an employment relationship exists, it cannot be terminated.
Although there can be no employment relationship without a contract of employment, a contract of employment may come into existence before an employment relationship is formed. For example, an employer and an employee may enter into a binding contract for the employee to commence employment with the employer in, say, six months' time. If the offer of employment is withdrawn after the contract has been made but before the employment commences, the employer may be liable for breach of contract, but the employment relationship will not come into existence."[16] (citations removed)
"Nevertheless, there is a difference between the employment relationship and the contract of employment. A contract of employment can come into existence before the employment relationship is formed and an employer who withdraws an offer of employment after it has been accepted or an employee who resigns before the starting date can be liable for breach of contract...Furthermore, a contract of employment can include obligations, such as a restraint of trade covenant, which continue after the employment relationship has come to an end."[17] (citations removed)
"...conceptually misleading and a statement marked with complexity to the point that the narrative should be refrained from and a view returned to the "multifactored approach" to assess and examin (sic) the employment factors, where it's contentious."[18]
"15AA Determining the ordinary meanings of "employee" and "employer"
(1) [Determining ordinary meanings of employee and employer] For the purposes of this Act, whether an individual is an employee of a person within the ordinary meaning of that expression, or whether a person is an employer of an individual within the ordinary meaning of that expression, is to be determined by ascertaining the real substance, practical reality and true nature of the relationship between the individual and the person.
(2) [Real substance, practical reality and true nature of relationship] For the purposes of ascertaining the real substance, practical reality and true nature of the relationship between the individual and the person:
(a) the totality of the relationship between the individual and the person must be considered; and
(b) in considering the totality of the relationship between the individual and the person, regard must be had not only to the terms of the contract governing the relationship, but also to other factors relating to the totality of the relationship including, but not limited to, how the contract is performed in practice.
Note: This section was enacted as a response to the decisions of the High Court of Australia in CFMMEU v Personnel Contracting Pty Ltd [2022] HCA 1 and ZG Operations Australia Pty Ltd v Jamsek [2022] HCA 2."
Fairness as between the person and other persons in a like position
"...his employment relationship was "complex or nuanced" which may have contributed to confusion regarding his legal rights, especially in circumstances where his employment was "mediated or facilitated by the QPS". Further, he submitted that that he did not fully comprehend "the legal implications or nuances of naming the respondent in a legal proceeding", and the involvement of multiple parties in the employment process influenced his perception of the relationship."[20]
"...case involves not only multiple parties but what I allege is multiple breaches of laws or nuances of laws and subject matters that created complexity in dealing with seperate (sic) parts of the issue and as to what actions I had taken or was allowed to take or the perceived ability I had to take such. I argue that the states in which the disputes were also compounded the complexity being that I allege it was outside of my knowledge as to whether complaint was in fact made in AHRC a process Ive (sic) never undertaken before. I submit that withdrawal of my dispute to AHRC was actually unnecessary but was given before such stage of complaint having been made where application doesnt (sic) assume a proceeding towards a court."[21]
"(s)imilar case as to delay caused by knowledge where initial application filed in time but wherein I contend I have further merits for extension of time application to be granted where I also argue jurisdiction issues with the complexity of my situation and in that I have undertook to make such amendments with withdrawal and fresh application to make clear my dispute and make open and transparent argument available to the other party as well..."
"Whilst the period of delay would have been shorter had the Applicant made the general protections application by email instead of post, he nonetheless acted promptly once told that the UD application was beyond jurisdiction. In the circumstances I am persuaded there is an acceptable explanation for the delay and this weighs in the Applicant's favour."[22]
"...was satisfied that Mr King had done his best to research his entitlements, a task outside his usual skill level. When advised of the section pursuant to which he should have proceeded he attended to lodgement immediately."[23]
"I am satisfied that Mr Webb was not completely ignorant as to the timeframe for filing. By his own evidence, during the period 13 to 21 April 2021, Mr Webb was concerned about the deadline for filing and was somewhat familiar with the Commission's jurisdiction having made the earlier claim. Even if he did not receive the necessary guidance from his representative, and did not understand the guidance of the Commission's staff conciliator on 24 March 2021, then there are a range of publicly available sources of information from which Mr Webb could have obtained appropriate guidance in this respect."[24]
"The applicant was affected by multifactoral (sic) circumstances not just one particular situation and thus the respondent raising issues of case law based on one circumstance in each of those cases either is not representative of the fact that the applicant was facing all such issues - This was multifactoral (sic) not
The applicant was proceeding on one type of application
The applicant was affected by complexity of issues raised to different departments in which the other departments couldnt (sic) act on of which made separate issues
The applicant claimed to have that information misrepresented to her and thus causing challenges outside of her normal skill and in which she was expeditiously to such responding where the responses are in-depth involving absolutely numerous case law examples
The applicants (sic) steadfastness to provide response and take action and seek resolve should see those positive case law provisions for extension of time enacted as per her submission paragraphs 50 to 56. The Situation was uncommon and unusual and unforseen (sic) thus well in the definition of exceptional circumstance."[25]
For completeness I note that in the above quote from the Applicant's submissions I have regarded references to "the applicant" as references to the Applicant herself.
"Turning to the question of fairness as between the Applicant and other persons in a similar position, cases of this kind will generally turn on their own facts. However, this consideration is concerned with the importance of an application of consistent principles in cases of this kind, thus ensuring fairness as between the Applicant and other persons in a similar position, and that consideration may relate to matters currently before the Commission or matters which had been previously decided by the Commission."[26]
[1] Nulty v Blue Star Group Pty Ltd [2011] FWAFB 975 at [13]
[2] See Applicant Submission on Extension of Time paragraphs 12 - 18 pages 3 - 4
[4] Wood v WA Composts Pty Ltd [2013] FWC 5344 at [10]- [14]
[5] Porter v Country Cranes t/a MIA Crane Services [2020] FWC 2300 at [18]
[6] See Respondent's Submissions paragraph 25 page 5
[8] See Applicant Submission on Extension of Time paragraph 13 page 3.
[9] See Applicant Submission on Extension of Time paragraphs 17-18 page 4.
[11] For example see Jenson Curtin v High Country Plumbing & Gas Fitting Pty Ltd [2022] FWC 2916 at [10].
[12] See Applicant's submission on extension of time page 27
[13] Clarke v Service to Youth Council Inc [2013] FCA 1018 at [31].
[14] Ozsoy v Monstamac Industries Pty Ltd [2014] FWCFB 2149 at [38]
[15] Khayam v Navitas English Pty Ltd [2017] FWCFB 5162 at [75]
[16] Kelly v Melba Support Services Australia Ltd [2021] FWCFB 4845 at [20] - [21]
[17] Broadlex Services Pty Ltd v United Workers' Union [2020] FCA 867
[18] See Applicant's submission on merits page 7 paragraph 24
[19] For example see Corner v Skycity Adelaide Pty Ltd [2011] FWAFB 955
[20] Bickley v Talent International (QLD) Pty Ltd [2024] FWC 426 at [7]
[21] See Applicant's submission on extension of time page 30 paragraph 52
[22] Green v Bilco Group Pty Ltd. [2018] FWC 6818 at [17]
[23] King v Hartway Galvanizers [2016] FWC 7841 at [20]
[24] Webb v Minterra Pty Ltd [2021] FWC 6066 at [46]
[25] See Applicant's reply submissions pages 5-6 paragraph F
[26] Morphett v Pearcedale Egg Farm [2015] FWC 8885 at [29]
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Barto Gold Mining Pty Ltd, Yuxin Holdings Pty Limited [2025] FWC 1405