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[2013] VCAT 1000
Victorian Civil and Administrative Tribunal
2013-06-13
Original judgment source is linked above.
Review and Regulation List; Working With Children Act 2005, Section 14 Category 3 application, applicant with lengthy criminal record, respondent's determination affirmed
TLM v Secretary to the Department of Justice (Review and Regulation) [2013] VCAT 1000
Mr Panayi of counsel, instructed by Maria-Elena Bravo, Senior Legal Officer, Department of Justice
(3) Subject to subsection (2A), in considering whether it is appropriate to refuse to give an assessment notice, the Secretary must have regard to -
(a) the nature and gravity of the conduct and its relevance to child-related work; and
(b) the period of time since the applicant engaged, or allegedly engaged, in the conduct;
(c) in the case of an offence, whether a finding of guilt or a conviction was recorded for it or a charge for it is still pending; and
(d) in the case of an offence, the sentence imposed for it; and
(e) the ages of the applicant and of any victim at the time the applicant engaged, or allegedly engaged, in the conduct; and
(f) whether or not the conduct has been decriminalised or has ceased to be subject to disciplinary charges since the applicant engaged, or allegedly engaged, in it; and
(g) the applicant's behaviour since he or she engaged, or allegedly engaged, in the conduct; and
(h) the likelihood of future threat to a child caused by the applicant; and
(i) any information given by the applicant in, or in relation to, the application; and
(j) any other matter that the Secretary considers relevant to the application.
If the proceeding relates to the giving of a negative notice on a category 3 application within the meaning of the Working with Children Act 2005 the Tribunal must have regard to -
(a) any matter to which the Secretary may have regard under section 14(3) of that Act; and
(b) whether, in all the circumstances, it is in the public interest to give an assessment notice.
the focus has been that basically [TLM] looks after their wellbeing, health and safety and would do anything to protect them.
had a lot of frustration with the Department of Human services, because well, there were conflicting issues between my ex-defacto and all that and welfare just seemed to think that somethings weren't relevant to protecting the children so, of course, you know, [TLM's] view was, well, if a child is getting assaulted shouldn't that become a child protection matter, shouldn't the child be protected, so, of course, it caused a bit of a - how can I say it. Well, [TLM] wouldn't accept what they would say so because of his brain injury he would get - well, he would speak loudly not aggressive or anything, it's not meant to be in a harmful way that people misunderstand him because of his traumatic brain injury. They think that he's threatening and getting abusive but he's not like that. He's just trying to get his point across as to why a child should be protected.
[TLM] is a person who may come across as being very eager and talkative depending on the situation. He is a young man who I believe has the best of intentions towards others and as such is very willing to help others if he can.
[TLM] has not had the advantage of a good education, which is plainly evident from letters he has written to various people, and Email messages he has sent. Despite that, [TLM] has still managed to obtain a good knowledge of most life problems and situations and also relevant procedures he must undertake.
A person who first meets with [TLM] may not understand at first that he has the best of intentions and a caring heart. He is a person who could be relied upon to undertake a task which would require his constant application and effort. I know him to be the type of person who would complete any reasonable task given to him with honesty and thoroughness. This is a trait which is sadly lacking in many people in today's society. Too often I have heard managers and employers lamenting that it is hard to find good help nowadays.
I can assure others that [TLM] is a person who can be trusted to carry a task to its completion and to thoroughly report back if required.
Degrading to be told you can't be trusted around children or work with children and it's inhumane and it's cruel when the Working With Children Commission has no evidence.
When they are talking about this triggering offence, that's 20 years ago. I'm now 40, I've matured a lot. I know right from wrong and that was just a neighbourhood dispute. And, at that time of being 19 years of age, about a triggering offence, in 1991 I married [he named an individual] - 13 April 1991. The women next door there was some sort of conflict. There was some sort of neighbourhood dispute. At that time in 1991, April 1991, there were some issues. There was no fence between us. We had Channel 10 helicopters fly over, we had Channel 9, Channel 7, we had the local papers, we had all sorts of things going on. I am not a person to go and assault anyone. I would prefer to communicate by talking and continue to talk till we solve a matter. I'm not going to resolve a matter with thing.
The matter that they've also brought up about the good - my good friend has brought up about arson, I'm not an arsonist and never will be. William Rourke [perhaps Rook] is the person that was living at the unit. William Rourke also had a friend that lived there as well. I know who William Rourke is. I've talked to William Rourke before. We know one another. Lisa McArthur as known, which eventually I did marry, she set me up. But as William Rourke would say even today '[TLM], I've got no issues with you. I will come and have a cup of coffee with you. I will do whatever. You know, I don't really see you the problem. I know what happened. I'm not happy about it.' and, as I said, I know right from wrong but there was no intention to - there was no intention to actually cause anyone any harm and there was no intention to do anything wrong.
He conceded, though, that what he had done relative to this event was 'wrong'.
The Commonwealth of Australia Constitution
The Disability Discrimination Act 1992 of the Commonwealth of Australia
If, because of the aggrieved person's disability, the discriminator treats or proposes to treat the aggrieved person less favourably than, in circumstances that are the same or are not materially different, the discriminator treats or would treat a person without the disability.
On the ground of a disability of the aggrieved person if the discriminator requires the aggrieved person to comply with a requirement or condition:
(a) With which a substantially higher proportion of persons without the disability comply or are able to comply;
(b) Which is not reasonable having regard to the circumstances of the case; and
(c) With which the aggrieved person does not or is not able to comply.
would have the effect that the aggrieved person [was because of the disability], treated less favourably than a person without the disability would be treated in circumstances that are not materially different
the requirement for adjustment is, for the purposes of this provision, not to be treated as making a material difference. The definition of indirect discrimination is also broadened. It occurs if the aggrieved person
would be able to comply with the requirement or condition only if the discriminator made reasonable adjustments for the person, but the discriminator does not do so or proposes not to do so.
TLM
Secretary to the Department of Justice
(1992) 174 CLR 430
(2012) 81 NSWLR 619