[2025] FWC 2969
General information, not legal advice.
Fair Work Commission
2025-10-03
Original judgment source is linked above.
s.365 - General protections
Perpetual Health And Fitness Industries Pty Ltd
Application to deal with contraventions involving dismissal - jurisdictional objections - Whether employee and whether dismissed - objections upheld.
"365 Application for the FWC to deal with a dismissal dispute
(b) the person, or an industrial association that is entitled to represent the industrial interests of the person, alleges that the person was dismissed in contravention of this Part;
the person, or the industrial association, may apply to the FWC for the FWC to deal with the dispute."
(a) the person's employment with his or her employer has been terminated on the employer's initiative; or
(b) the person has resigned from their employment but was forced to do so because of conduct, or a course of conduct, engaged in by his or her employer."
"15 Ordinary meanings of employee and employer
A reference in this Act to an employee with its ordinary meaning:
(a) includes a reference to a person who is usually such an employee; and
(b) does not include a person on a vocational placement.
A reference in this Act to an employer with its ordinary meaning includes a reference to a person who is usually such an employer."
"15AA Determining the ordinary meanings of employee and employer
(1) [Determining ordinary meanings of employee and employer]
For the purposes of this Act, whether an individual is an employee of a person within the ordinary meaning of that expression, or whether a person is an employer of an individual within the ordinary meaning of that expression, is to be determined by ascertaining the real substance, practical reality and true nature of the relationship between the individual and the person.
(2) [Real substance, practical reality and true nature of relationship]
For the purposes of ascertaining the real substance, practical reality and true nature of the relationship between the individual and the person:
(a) the totality of the relationship between the individual and the person must be considered; and
(b) in considering the totality of the relationship between the individual and the person, regard must be had not only to the terms of the contract governing the relationship, but also to other factors relating to the totality of the relationship including, but not limited to, how the contract is performed in practice."
[1] Personal Trainer Agreement commencing 19 April 2019, page 31-42 Digital Hearing Book ('DHB').
[2] Email confirming termination of the subcontractor agreement on 6 April 2025, page 101 DHB.
[3] Rosters and payslips for brief periods in July and August 2019 resulting in payment over two pay periods.
[4] The Applicant tendered into evidence an interim intervention order against one male obtained in 2024, page 27-30 DHB.
[6] Examples include an email in 2019 where the Applicant was asked to spend 45 minutes to 1 hour to help cover an absence of the cleaner, an invitation to a meeting in 2020, emails introducing the personal trainers to Gym members and occasional requests to complete a free consultation to a prospective client of personal services.
[8] Dealing with a dismissal dispute other than by arbitration.
[9] Coles Supply Chain Pty Ltd v Milford [2020] FCAFC 152; (2020) 279 FCR 591, 54.
[10] See Stephen's v Brodribb Sawmilling Co Pty Ltd (1986) 160 CLR 16 and Hollis v Vabu Pty Ltd [2001] HCA 44; (2001) 207 CLR 21, and more recently traversed in Jiang Shen Cai trading as French Accent v Do Rozario [2011] FWAFB 8307.
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Perpetual Health And Fitness Industries Pty Ltd [2025] FWC 2969
(2020) 279 FCR 591
(1986) 160 CLR 16
(2001) 207 CLR 21