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[2024] FWC 1803
Fair Work Commission
2024-07-11
Original judgment source is linked above.
[2024] FWC 1803 [Note: An appeal pursuant to s.604 (C2024/5234) was lodged against this decision.]
s.394 - Unfair dismissal
a) Ms Patricia Hitchins - General Manager Residential and Withdrawal Services;
b) Ms Therese Mahoney - Manager of the NWU and Respondent;
c) Ms Kellie Slattery - Clinical Co-ordinator Nannup Therapeutic Community;
d) Mr Simon James Cameron Hunter - Chief Operating Officer; and
e) Ms Michele Pilutkiewicz - Human Resources Generalist.
1.10.2 The employer must notify the relevant employee of the decision to introduce the major change.
1.10.3 The relevant employees may appoint a representative for the purposes of the procedures in this term if:
1.10.4 As soon as practicable after making its decision, the employer must:
1.10.5 However, the employer is not required to disclose confidential or commercially sensitive information to the relevant employees.
1.10.6 The employer must give prompt and genuine consideration to matters raised about the major change by the relevant employees.
1.10.7 If a term in the enterprise agreement provides for a major change to production, program, organisation, structure or technology in relation to the enterprise of the employer, the requirements set out in subclauses 1.10.2-4 are taken not to apply.
1.10.8 In this term, a major change is likely to have a significant effect on employees if it results in:
a. the termination of the employment of employees; or
b. major change to the composition, operation or size of the employer's workforce or to the skills required of employees; or
c. the elimination or diminution of job opportunities (including opportunities for promotion or tenure); or
f. the need to relocate employees to another workplace; or
1.10.9 In this term, a relevant employee means the employees who may be affected by the major change.
2.6.1 Redundancy will be in accordance with the NES.
2.6.2 A position may become redundant if there are insufficient funds available to continue the position or if the position is no longer required. If as a result of a position becoming redundant an employee's contract is terminated, then the employee will be entitled to the standard period of notice plus redundancy pay.
2.6.3 Redundancy pay is calculated on an employee's period of continuous service in accordance with the NES.
2.6.4 Cyrenian House will endeavour to offer a redundant employee suitable alternative employment either within our outside the agency. An employee, who has been made redundant, may take up to eight (8) months time off without loss of pay during each week of the notice period to seek other employment.
2.6.5 Cyrenian House may make application to Fair Work Australia to have the redundancy pay reduced if it obtains suitable alternative employment for an employee.
2.6.6 This clause does not apply to a casual employee or to an employee whose contract of employment is terminated without notice for serious misconduct.
I did assure all of you that I had no intention of sharing any information regarding any client but that I was trying to find evidence that I am capable in my job, and that I have in fact been bullied! I also explained what information I had received a week ago (a copy lodged 3 years ago of a colleagues' grievance which names me as someone who had complained to him of bullying in the workplace). I realised then that my employer had failed to protect him from bullying and therefore I would need to get my facts straight. I watched this ex-collegaue get bullied by the manager, Therese Mahoney and had seen him discredited since he left and I wanted to protect myself from that. The emails sent to my phone were to do just that.
A person has been unfairly dismissed if the FWC is satisfied that:
(b) the dismissal was harsh, unjust or unreasonable; and
(c) the dismissal was not consistent with the Small Business Fair Dismissal Code; and
(d) the dismissal was not a case of genuine redundancy.
Note: For the definition of consistent with the Small Business Fair Dismissal Code: see section 388.
396 Initial matters to be considered before merits
The FWC must decide the following matters relating to an application for an order under Division 4 before considering the merits of the application:
(a) whether the application was made within the period required in subsection 394(2);
(b) whether the person was protected from unfair dismissal;
(c) whether the dismissal was consistent with the Small Business Fair Dismissal Code;
(d) whether the dismissal was a case of genuine redundancy.
(1) A person's dismissal was a case of genuine redundancy if:
(a) the person's employer no longer required the person's job to be performed by anyone because of changes in the operational requirements of the employer's enterprise; and
(b) the employer has complied with any obligation in a modern award or enterprise agreement that applied to the employment to consult about the redundancy.
(2) A person's dismissal was not a case of genuine redundancy if it would have been reasonable in all the circumstances for the person to be redeployed within:
(b) the enterprise of an associated entity of the employer.
5.1.1 No longer requires the person's job to be performed
1550. Paragraph 389(1)(b) provides that it will not be a case of genuine redundancy if an employer does not comply with any relevant obligation in a modern award or enterprise agreement to consult about the redundancy. This does not impose an absolute obligation on an employer to consult about the redundancy but requires the employer to fulfil obligations under an award or agreement if the dismissal is to be considered a genuine redundancy.
...It is an essential concept of redeployment under s 389(2)(a) that a redundant employee be placed in another job in the employer's enterprise as an alternative to termination of employment. Of course the job must be suitable, in the sense that the employee should have the skills and competence required to perform it to the required standard either immediately or with a reasonable period of retraining. Other considerations may be relevant such as the location of the job and the remuneration attaching to it. Where an employer decides that, rather than fill a vacancy by redeploying an employee into a suitable job in its own enterprise, it will advertise the vacancy and require the employee to compete with other applicants, it might subsequently be found that the resulting dismissal is not a case of genuine redundancy. This is because it would have been reasonable to redeploy the employee into the vacancy.[84]
I was of the opinion that she was not qualified or suitable for the job of Senior Support Worker and the increased responsibility that it would bring. I cannot identify any training that would have changed this, because Susan's weaknesses were in communication, organisation and professional boundaries. She had been provided all the available training to address these issues, but there had been no improvement.
I had noticed that Susan had struggled with managing residents, so I offered her training regarding boundaries early on in her employment and continued to talk to her about this throughout her employment. However, in my opinion she continued to prioritise ensuring that residents "liked" her, rather than ensuring that crucial information was captured as was part of her role. To me, this meant she was not appropriate for either the Senior Support Worker role or the Night Shift Supervisor position, and there was not any training that would realistically...
Sue works well as part of the NWU team and has been welcoming to the new nurse and works well with her in her capacity as support worker. Sue has become efficient in conducting entries and exits to the Withdrawal unit. Sue is working on her boundaries after receiving a written warning about a breach and appears to have taken some learning from this incident. Sue attended some core training including case not, risk assessment and handling difficult behaviours.[92]
If a command relates to the subject matter of the employment and involves no illegality, the obligation of the servant to obey it depends at common law upon its being reasonable. In other words the lawful commands of an employer which an employee must obey are those which fall within the scope of the contract of services and are reasonable.
But what is reasonable is not to be determined, so to speak, in vacuo. The nature of the employment, the established usages affecting it, the common practices which exist and the general provisions of the instrument, in this case an award, governing the relationship, supply considerations by which the determination of what is reasonable must be controlled.[105]
... That this fact was not known to the employer at the time of the decision to terminate Mr Dundovich's employment is not determinative. As the Full Bench in McLauchlan's case observed, facts which existed at the time of dismissal but only came to light after the decision may render a termination of employment harsh, unjust or unreasonable.
In the decision in Lane v Arrowcrest Group Pty Ltd,[107] von Doussa J concluded at 456:
In my opinion it is still open to an employer to justify a dismissal by reference to facts not known to the employer at the time of the dismissal, but discovered subsequently, so long as those facts concern circumstances in existence when the decision was made. Whether the decision can be so justified will depend on all the circumstances.
6 The Applicant's casual position as night weekend supervisor

[1] Digital Hearing Book, 57,59 (DHB).
[3] Witness Statement of Michele Pilutkiewicz, [13] (Pilutkiewicz Statement).
[4] DHB (n 1) 313; Witness Statement of Patricia Hitchins, [13] (Hitchins Statement).
[6] Pilutkiewicz Statement (n 3) [14].
[20] [2012] FWAA; AE895382; PR526340.
[21] Witness Statement of Simon James Cameron Hunter, [12] (Hunter Statement).
[23] Witness Statement of Therese Mahoney, [8] (Mahoney Statement).
[33] Witness Statement of Susan Retter, 5 (Retter Statement).
[36] Hitchins Statement (n 4) Annexure PH-4.
[59] Pilutkiewicz Statement (n 3) [29].
[61] DHB (n 1) 336; Pilutkiewicz Statement (n 3) [29].
[64] Baker v Roy Morgan [2013] FWC 6694, [22].
[65] Nettlefold v Kym Smoker Pty Ltd [1996] IRCA 496; (1996) 69 IR 370, 373.
[66] Yitzhak Shachar v Electrical Home Aids Pty Ltd t/a Godfreys [2018] FWC 4892, [29].
[67] Dibb v Federal Commissioner of Taxation [2004] FCAFC 126; (2004) 136 FCR 388, 404-405.
[68] Explanatory Memorandum, Fair Work Bill 2008 (Cth), [1548]; Kekeris v A. Hartrodt Australia Pty Ltd T/A A.Hartrodt [2010] FWA 674, [23].
[69] Ulan Coal Mines Ltd v Howarth [2010] FWAFB 3488; (2010) 196 IR 32, [17].
[75] Ibid [22] and Annexures PH2 and PH3.
[77] See also UES (Int'l) Pty Ltd v Harvey [2012] FWAFB 5241; (2012) 215 IR 263.
[78] Construction, Forestry, Mining and Energy Union v Newcastle Wallsend Coal Company (1998) 88 IR 202, 218.
[80] [2010] FWAFB 7578, [26].
[85] Alison Bleyerveen v Uniting Mission and Education [2019] FWC 4818, [34].
[88] Witness Statement of Kellie Slattery, [17] (Slattery Statement).
[94] [2013] FWCFB 6191, [36].
[95] Walton v Mermaid Dry Cleaners Pty Ltd [1996] IRCA 267; (1996) 142 ALR 681, 685.
[101] R v Darling Island Stevedore & Lighterage [1938] HCA 44; (1938) 60 CLR 601, 621-2.
[103] [2013] FWCFB 3316, [8].
[105] [1938] HCA 44; (1938) 60 CLR 601, 622.
[108] Slattery Statement (n 88) [20].
[110] Hitchins Statement (n 4) [46].
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Susan Retter
WA Council on Addiction Inc T/A Cyrenian House [2024] FWC 1803
(1996) 69 IR 370
(2004) 136 FCR 388
(2010) 196 IR 32
(2012) 215 IR 263
(1998) 88 IR 202
(2014) 240 IR 130
(1996) 142 ALR 681
(1938) 60 CLR 601