[2024] FWC 246
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Fair Work Commission
2024-01-30
Original judgment source is linked above.
The Applicant was not unfairly dismissed. The Applicant was terminated due to his repeated misconduct. The Applicant made sexually inappropriate and disrespectful comments to another employee of the Respondent. This misconduct posed a risk to the health and safety of others. Ther termination was not harsh, unjust or unreasonable."
Was the Applicant given an opportunity to respond to any valid reason related to their capacity or conduct?
(a) The 22 January Incident (altercation with Ms Gale, within earshot of customers);
(b) The 8 March Incident (swearing at Ms O'Cass);
(c) The 31 March Incident (making derisive or accusatory or comments to Ms Whiting about Ms Gray);
(d) The 2 April Incident (repeatedly shouting "get out" at Ms Gray in the Gaudi Bar);
(e) The 25 May Incident (making the comment "I hope your friend who got molested is okay," and saying words to the effect of "Well, she is a liar and she was never molested, she would have made the whole thing up," in relation to Ms Gray to Ms Measures);
(f) The 10 June Incident (swearing at Ms Gray on 10 June 2023).
Did the Respondent unreasonably refuse to allow the Applicant to have a support person present to assist at discussions relating to the dismissal?
Was the Applicant warned about unsatisfactory performance before the dismissal?
To what degree would the size of the Respondent's enterprise be likely to impact on the procedures followed in effecting the dismissal?
To what degree would the absence of dedicated human resource management specialists or expertise in the Respondent's enterprise be likely to impact on the procedures followed in effecting the dismissal?
"...the Commission should approach with caution claims of differential treatment in other cases advanced as a basis for supporting a finding that a termination was harsh, unjust or unreasonable... In particular, it is important that the Commission be satisfied that cases which are advanced as comparable cases in which there was no termination are in truth properly comparable: the Commission must ensure that it is comparing 'apples with apples'. There must be sufficient evidence of the circumstances of the allegedly comparable cases to enable a proper comparison to be made. ... Specifically, the Commission must be conscious that there may be considerations subjective to the circumstances of an individual that caused an employer to take a more lenient approach in an alleged comparable case."
Is the Commission satisfied that the dismissal of the Applicant was harsh, unjust or unreasonable?
[1] Statement of Scott Ashburner dated 9 September 2023 (Ashburner) [3].
[3] Warrell v Fair Work Australia [2013] FCA 291.
[5] Applicant's outline of submissions on permission dated 15 September 2023 [6]-[7].
[6] Per Fair Work Act 2009 (Cth) (FW Act) s.596(2)(a).
[10] Crozier v Palazzo Corporation Pty Limited t/as Noble Park Storage and Transport (2000) 98 IR 137 Print S5897 [73].
[11] Wadey v Y.M.C.A. Canberra [1996] IRCA 568 cited in Dover-Ray v Real Insurance Pty Ltd [2010] FWA 8544 [85].
[12] Keenan v Leighton Boral Amey NSW Pty Ltd [2015] FWC 3156.
[13] Gera v Commonwealth Bank [2010] FMCA 205 [82].
[14] Applicant's outline of submissions dated 12 September 2023 ('AS') [64].
[18] Kable v Bozelle, Michael Keith T/A Matilda Greenbank [2015] FWCFB 3512.
[19] Shorten v Australian Meat Holdings (1996) 70 IR 360, 376; citing Slifka v J W Sanders Pty Ltd (1996) 67 IR 316, 327
[22] Respondent's outline of submissions dated 3 October 2023 ('RS') [2.3].
[23] Statement of Ms Demi-Lee Measures dated 3 October 2023 ('Measures') [14].
[26] [2014] FWC 3670 [62].
[30] P7680 (AIRCFB, Ross VP, Drake DP, Palmer C, 24 December 1997).
[40] Applicant's outline of submissions in reply dated 10 October 2023 (AS-R) [12].
[42] AS-R [19], [2023] FWC 2493 [154]-[155].
[50] Applicant's closing submissions dated 7 November 2023 ('ACS') [1]-[3], PN371 - PN380.
[52] ACS [9], PN738 - PN739, PN757 - PN762.
[57] ACS [52]-[53], Lumley v Bremick Pty Ltd Australia t/a Bremick Fasteners [2014] FWCFB 8278.
[58] ACS [54], Ashburner SA-6.
[65] ACS [80] referring to Previsic v Australian Quarantine Inspection Services (AIRC, Holmes C, 6 October 1998); see also Andrew Hinchen v Moonee Valley Racing Club [2016] FWC 2176.
[66] Gera v Commonwealth Bank [2010] FMCA 205 at 82.
[67] Keenan v Leighton Boral Amey NSW Pty Ltd [2015] FWC 3156.
[68] PN909, PN918 - PN920, PN917, PN915, PN1007 - PN1016; PN1021 - PN1027 ; PN1033 - PN1055.
[70] Nazar Lazar v Inghams Enterprises Pty Ltd [2013] FWC 3447, 46.
[73] Statement of Mr Shane Hickey dated 3 October 2023 ('Hickey') [53], Annexure (t).
[79] Respondent's closing submissions dated 7 November 2023 ('RCS'), [1.8].
[83] Hickey [69], Measures [44].
[109] RCS [2.8]-[2.9], Hickey (c)
[119] Being Ms Measures, Ms Tolmie, Ms Gray, and Ms O'Cass, per RCS [3.4] - [3.6].
[128] Statement of Mr Scott Ashburner in reply dated 9 October 2023 (Ashburner, reply) [33-35], PN167.
[132] PR954993, 9 February 2005 per Lawler VP, Leary DP and Deegan C.
[134] Sayer v Melsteel Pty Ltd [2011] FWAFB 7498, [14]; Smith v Moore Paragon Australia Ltd PR915674 (AIRCFB, Ross VP, Lacy SDP, Simmonds C, 21 March 2002), [69].
[135] Selvachandran v Peteron Plastics Pty Ltd [1995] IRCA 333; (1995) 62 IR 371, 373.
[137] Walton v Mermaid Dry Cleaners Pty Ltd [1996] IRCA 267; (1996) 142 ALR 681, 685.
[138] Edwards v Justice Giudice [1999] FCA 1836, [7].
[139] [2021] FWCFB 3457 (Newton).
[141] King v Freshmore (Vic) Pty Ltd Print S4213 (AIRCFB, Ross VP, Williams SDP, Hingley C, 17 March 2000).
[154] Ashburner [7], PN129 - PN131, PN146 - PN157.
[159] Ashburner reply [14]-[15], PN307 - PN335.
[160] Ashburner reply [33], PN336 - PN370. The original handwritten complaint by Ms Gray alleged that Mr Ashburner had repeatedly shouted at Ms Gray to 'get the fuck out of the bar'. Ms Bronwyn Harrison was interviewed by Mr Hickey in regards to the complaint, and no notes were taken of the interview. According to Mr Hickey's oral evidence, Ms Harrison had not heard Mr Ashburner swear at Ms Gray but is also deaf in one ear and may not have been able to hear the content of the exchange in any event.
[166] Ashburner [7], PN129 - PN131, PN146 - PN157.
[168] Ashburner, reply [34]-[35].
[173] Measures [33], Annexure (A).
[175] Measures [38], Annexure (B).
[176] Hickey [47], Annexure (O).
[177] [2022] FWCFB 32 [140]-[141].
[178] Print Q9292, [1998] AIRC 1592 ("Rose").
[181] RS [2.17], RCS [2.11] - [2.12].
[184] Measures Annexure (B), PN237 - PN244.
[187] Ashburner [41], Measures [35].
[194] B, C and D v Australian Postal Corporation T/A Australia Post [2013] FWCFB 6191 [32], citing Budlong v NCR Australia Pty Limited [2006] NSWIRComm 288 and Queensland Rail v Wake, PR974391, 19 October 2006.
[195] [2018] FWC 2025 [79].
[197] [2011] FWA [42]:
[204] Hickey [69], Measures [44], PN742.
[208] [2014] FWC 446 (Pearson 1).
[217] Bartlett v Ingleburn Bus Services Pty Ltd [2020] FWCFB 6429, [19]; Reseigh v Stegbar Pty Ltd [2020] FWCFB 533, [55].
[218] Crozier v Palazzo Corporation Pty Ltd (2000) 98 IR 137, 151.
[219] Previsic v Australian Quarantine Inspection Services Print Q3730 (AIRC, Holmes C, 6 October 1998).
[221] APS Group Placements Pty Ltd v O'Loughlin [2011] FWAFB 5230, [51] per majority.
[224] Hickey [53], attachments (T) and (U).
[228] Ashburner [36-41], [47], [50-52].
[229] Crozier v Palazzo Corporation Pty Ltd t/a Noble Park Storage and Transport Print S5897 (AIRCFB, Ross VP, Acton SDP, Cribb C, 11 May 2000), [75].
[230] RMIT v Asher [2010] FWAFB 1200; (2010) 194 IR 1, 14-15.
[231] Gibson v Bosmac Pty Ltd [1995] IRCA 222; (1995) 60 IR 1, 7.
[232] Bartlett v Ingleburn Bus Services Pty Ltd [2020] FWCFB 6429, [24].
[234] Jetstar v Meetson-Lemkes [2013] FWCFB 9075, [68].
[236] Sexton v Pacific National (ACT) Pty Ltd PR931440 (AIRC, Lawler VP, 14 May 2003), [36].
[238] Keenan v Leighton Boral Amey NSW Pty Ltd [2015] FWC 3156
[239] ALH Group Pty Ltd t/a The Royal Exchange Hotel v Mulhall (2002) 117 IR 357, [51]. See also Smith v Moore Paragon Australia Ltd PR915674 (AIRCFB, Ross VP, Lacy SDP, Simmonds C, 21 March 2002), [92]; Edwards v Justice Giudice [1999] FCA 1836, [6]-[7].
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