[2023] FWC 2493
General information, not legal advice.
Fair Work Commission
2023-09-27
Original judgment source is linked above.
s.394 - Application for unfair dismissal remedy
Application for relief from unfair dismissal - jurisdictional objection - Bullying application-Small Business Fair Dismissal Code - summary dismissal - whether the Employer had reasonable grounds to hold the belief at the time of dismissal - allegations of sexual harassment against Applicant - jurisdictional objection dismissed -further allegations of sexual harassment for Hearing - S28A -sexual orientation-post termination evidence-s387 assessment undertaken - termination unfair - compensation awarded.
Tests in this matter - sexual harassment evidence
I am writing to inform you that your employment with Choc Dee has been terminated, due to your Serious Misconduct of six (6) female Employee members within Choc Dee at various times.
Due to your application to the Fair Work Commission, in regard to a Bullying claim from you by Kanokwan, I sent out a Questionnaire asking all my Thai Employee, the following Questions:
1/ Has anyone here that works at Choc Dee ever seen or heard of any sexual harassment towards Ratchapol (Tui).
2/ Has anyone here that works at Choc Dee ever seen or heard of any form of Bullying or Name Calling towards Ratchapol (Tui).
3/ Has anyone here that works at Choc Dee ever seen or heard any form of Name Calling or Sexual Harassment from Ratchapol (Tui) towards other Employee members.
I was totally shocked to find out that you Ratchapol Pewsukngem have been Sexually Harassing 6 out of the 8 female Employee members on numerous occasions, by inappropriately touching their buttocks, trying to kiss them and also Body Shaming a number of Employee eg: Calling Chutima "Fat". This is a very serious form of Misconduct and I will not allow this to happen in Choc Dee. You have on a number of occasions refused to sit down and talk and I have reluctantly sent you 2 letters, 1 - A warning letter to stop Bullying and name calling. 2 - Information letter on the pending sale of Choc Dee to Kanokwan, reply back that you do not accept them and that you reject the letters. Your termination of employment with Choc Dee will be effective immediately. All monies owed to you will be paid within the next 10 days.
There may be a waiting period if you wish to access any Centrelink Payments
(a) the person is an Employee who has completed a period of employment with his or her Employer of at least the minimum employment period; and
(b) one or more of the following apply:
(i) a modern award covers the person;
(ii) an enterprise agreement applies to the person in relation to the employment;
(iii) the sum of the person's annual rate of earnings, and such other amounts (if any) worked out in relation to the person in accordance with the regulations, is less than the high income threshold.
(a) whether the application was made within the period required in subsection
(b) whether the person was protected from unfair dismissal;
(c) whether the dismissal was consistent with the Small Business Fair Dismissal
(d) whether the dismissal was a case of genuine redundancy."
"A person has been unfairly dismissed if the FWC is satisfied that:
(b) the dismissal was harsh, unjust or unreasonable; and
(c) the dismissal was not consistent with the Small Business Fair Dismissal Code; and
(d) the dismissal was not a case of genuine redundancy.
"(1) The Minister may, by legislative instrument, declare a Small Business Fair Dismissal Code.
(2) A person's dismissal was consistent with the Small Business Fair Dismissal Code if:
(a) immediately before the time of the dismissal or at the time the person was given notice of the dismissal (whichever happened first), the person's Employer was a small business Employer; and
(b) the Employer complied with the Small Business Fair Dismissal Code in relation to the dismissal."
It is fair for an Employer to dismiss an Employee without notice or warning when the
Employer believes on reasonable grounds that the Employee's conduct is sufficiently serious to justify immediate dismissal. Serious misconduct includes theft, fraud, violence and serious breaches of occupational health and safety procedures. For a dismissal to be deemed fair it is sufficient, though not essential, that an allegation of theft, fraud or violence be reported to the police. Of course, the Employer must have reasonable grounds for making the report.
At the time of termination, the Employer must hold a reasonable belief in relation to the
In other cases, the small business Employer must give the Employee a reason why he or she is at risk of being dismissed. The reason must be a valid reason based on the Employee's conduct or capacity to do the job.
The Employee must be warned verbally or preferably in writing, that he or she risks being dismissed if there is no improvement.
The small business Employer must provide the Employee with an opportunity to respond to the warning and give the Employee a reasonable chance to rectify the problem, having regard to the Employee's response. Rectifying the problem might involve the Employer providing additional training and ensuring the Employee knows the Employer's job expectations.
In discussions with an Employee in circumstances where dismissal is possible, the Employee can have another person present to assist. However, the other person cannot be a lawyer acting in a professional capacity.
A small business Employer will be required to provide evidence of compliance with the Code if the Employee makes a claim for unfair dismissal to Fair Work Australia, including evidence that a warning has been given (except in cases of summary dismissal). Evidence may include a completed checklist, copies of written warning(s), a statement of termination or signed witness statements."
"211. There will also be a Small Business Fair Dismissal Code (the Code) for businesses with fewer than 15 Employees (small business Employers). The Code will set out the steps a small business Employer needs to take in order for the dismissal to be fair. If an Employee of a small business Employer makes an unfair dismissal claim, FWA will first determine if the Employer has complied with the Code. If so the dismissal will be considered fair. If the Employer has not complied with the Code, the claim will treated in the same way as any other unfair dismissal claim, and FWA will go on to determine whether the dismissal was harsh, unjust or unreasonable.
1545. If a person's dismissal is consistent with the Small Business Fair Dismissal Code then the dismissal will be considered fair and the other factors relating to unfair dismissal do not need to be considered. This arises because clause 396 provides that whether a dismissal is consistent with the Code is an initial matter that FWA must consider before considering the merits of the application. If the Employer has not complied with the Code, the claim will be treated the same way as any other unfair dismissal claim."
(a) For the definition of serious misconduct in section 12 of the Act, serious misconduct has its ordinary meaning.
(b) For subregulation (1), conduct that is serious misconduct includes both of the following:
(a) wilful or deliberate behaviour by an Employee that is inconsistent with the continuation of the contract of employment;
(b) conduct that causes serious and imminent risk to:
(i) the health or safety of a person; or
(ii) the reputation, viability or profitability of the Employer's business.
(c) For subregulation (1), conduct that is serious misconduct includes each of the following:
(a) the Employee, in the course of the Employee's employment, engaging in:
(i) theft; or
(ii) fraud; or
(iii) assault; or
(iv) sexual harassment;
A person who has been dismissed may apply to the FWC for an order under Division 4 granting a remedy.
In considering whether it is satisfied that a dismissal was harsh, unjust or unreasonable, the FWC must take into account:
a) whether there was a valid reason for the dismissal related to the person's capacity or conduct (including its effect on the safety and welfare of other Employees); and
b) whether the person was notified of that reason; and
c) whether the person was given an opportunity to respond to any reason related to the capacity or conduct of the person; and
d) any unreasonable refusal by the Employer to allow the person to have a support person present to assist at any discussions relating to dismissal; and
e) if the dismissal related to unsatisfactory performance by the person - whether the person had been warned about that unsatisfactory performance before the dismissal; and
f) the degree to which the size of the Employer's enterprise would be likely to impact on the procedures followed in effecting the dismissal; and
g) the degree to which the absence of dedicated human resource management specialists or expertise in the enterprise would be likely to impact on the procedures followed in effecting the dismissal; and
Note: For the purposes of paragraph (a), the following conduct can amount to a valid reason for the dismissal:
(a) the person sexually harasses another person; and
(b) the person does so in connection with the person's employment."
(1) For the purposes of this Act, a person sexually harasses another person (the person harassed ) if:
(a) the person makes an unwelcome sexual advance, or an unwelcome request for sexual favours, to the person harassed; or
(b) engages in other unwelcome conduct of a sexual nature in relation to the person harassed; in circumstances in which a reasonable person, having regard to all the circumstances, would have anticipated the possibility that the person harassed would be offended, humiliated or intimidated.
(1A) For the purposes of subsection (1), the circumstances to be taken into account include, but are not limited to, the following:
(a) the sex, age, sexual orientation, gender identity, intersex status, marital or relationship status, religious belief, race, colour, or national or ethnic origin, of the person harassed;
(b) the relationship between the person harassed and the person who made the advance or request or who engaged in the conduct;
(c) any disability of the person harassed;
(d) any other relevant circumstance.
"conduct of a sexual nature" includes making a statement of a sexual nature to a person, or in the presence of a person, whether the statement is made orally or in writing."
As per the Small Business Fair Dismissal Code (2009), I Craig McGilvery (Business Owner of Choc Dee Thai Restaurant) hereby issue to you, Ratchapol Pewsukngem with a written warning to immediately stop abusing any or all of the Employee at Choc Dee, especially the Business Manager Kanokwan Saenkaew. You have previously been verbally told to stop arguing and fighting with the Employee on a number of occasions, but you continue to abuse your fellow workers. At approximately 5pm on Thursday 29th December, you instigated a loud verbal discussion with Kanokwan Saenkaew (Business Manager) and abused her in front of other Employee members, Nongyay, Supattra & Daniel, this has to stop.
I will not permit in this business any bad behaviour from anyone, you as Head Chef should have enough experience with people to speak to other Employee members in an appropriate manner.
We hope sincerely that this matter is finished, and that everyone can work together as a team, we are all here to help all members of the Choc Dee Family."
Letter of Intent to all Employee in the selling of Choc Dee.
As all of you know, I just had my 70th Birthday on the 12th January, 2023. Due to old age and many aches and pains with my body, after 12 years and over 210,000 customers, I have decided to sell this business as I can no longer put in the 100% effort it takes to keep this business going. The sale of the business won't occur overnight, as there are many legal hurdles that must be sorted out before anyone can take possession.
Over the past few years, I have had a few enquires about selling the restaurant from a
Sydney Thai connection and also just recently from another person wanting a 50% share of Choc Dee, this is not my intention.
Kanokwan Saenkaew (Jaoui) has over the last few months shown a keen interest i
buying Choc Dee, and running the business by herself. Jaoui has over the last 6 years managed to learn everything that is needed to run this business and I believe that she is the right person to take over Choc Dee.
From 14th March, 2023 when Choc Dee re-opens for business, I will not be in attendance at Choc Dee, Jaoui will be in charge and control with all the requirements necessary in running Choc Dee.
I would like to thank everyone for their dedication and hard work, we have had many
Employee changes in 12 Years, many cooks, many kitchen hands, many wait Employee, everyone with a different personality, but they have all in many ways contributed to Choc Dee in what it is, one of the best restaurants in Palm Cove.
"Due to Ratchapol lodging a Fair Work Commission Application and Sexual Harassment and Bullying at Choc Dee, I need you to answer a couple of questions honestly. Please find attached the questionnaire and respond within 24 hours."
"1. Has anyone here that works at Choc Dee ever seen or heard of any sexual harassment towards Ratchapol (Tui).
2. Has anyone here that works at Choc Dee ever seen or heard any form of Bullying or Name Calling towards Ratchapol (Tui).
3. Has anyone here that works at Choc Dee ever seen or hear any form of Name Calling from Ratchapol (Tui) towards other Employee members.
Alleged Direction from FWC Case Manager to Dismiss Applicant
Please find attached Form F73 plus additional information, due to what i have received back from my other female Employee members you will see a copy of a Termination Letter i have prepared, but not yet sent to Ratchapol as he is back in Thailand as far as i know. I will be trying to see Fair Work in Cairns to let them also know of his dismissal.
Please feel free to ring me at your convenience once you have read all the attachments."
I confirm receipt of the completed F73 response form and confirm your email contained 14 attachments
If you have not already done so, you must now provide a copy of the completed response to the Applicant and also the other people named as allegedly engaging in Bullying behaviour. In accordance with Fair Work Commission Rules, this can be done by email, fax, or post.
Please confirm when this has been done by reply email and let me know if you have any questions."
Please at your earliest convenience, I require you to attend a face to face meeting regarding your continued employment at Choc Dee.
"Sorry Craig, I won't be able to attend meeting. Now, I'm at airport about to boarding to Thailand. Can we have a meeting when I get back from Thailand?
This afternoon i have emailed to both Kanokwan and Ratchapol The Form F73 as well as the attachments.
I have also requested an urgent meeting with Ratchapol to discuss face to face my response to his Sexual Harassment of the female Employee members at Choc Dee.
I removed the Termination letter from the attachments to Ratchapol, of which i will issue to him when he responds to my meeting request. As far as i know Ratchapol is either back in Thailand or currently in Transit.
I will let you know when my face to face meeting occurs and the outcome."
Received a phone call from [case manager], telling me to send on the letter of termination to Ratchapol."[27]
"O/B call to EP - F73 was received with an email advising that the A had been terminated and that the EP had sent to A Minus the termination letter. I advised that correspondence sent to the commission should be sent to the Applicant, we cannot accept docs if they have not been served on all parties. - The EP Craig advised he will send the Applicant his termination letter today and will copy in the FWC. - I advised that I would call the Applicant after he has received the additional document. EP was concerned that he shouldn't terminated his Employee while he is on leave. I gave him the number for the FWO. - TB 14/02"
"sexual harassment of 5 female Employees, molesting them and trying to kiss them" and serious misconduct in the form of "sexual harassment of 6 female Employees after sending questionnaire to all female Employees. 5 responses back by saying Ratchapol had molested them."[30]
Summary of Applicant's submissions and evidence
"I, Suppatra Soncharoen, was one of the colleagues of Rachapol at Choc Dee Thai Restaurant. I have known him since 2019. I confirmed that I have never seen Rachapol do sexual harassment with the Employee of Cho Dee Thai Restaurant since I started working there until I left there. I also confirmed that he's gay and sometimes he dresses like a woman. I have known Kanokwan, one of the witnesses that blamed Ratchapol. She is Craig's wife. I also know other witnesses, one is Craig's wife sister, one of them used to borrow Ratchapol's money for gambling, many of them are working and holiday visa holders who want pay-slip to complete their visa extension, so they're controlled by the owner of Choc Dee Thai Restaurant.
I got the email from Craig, the owner of Choc Dee Thai Restaurant. He wanted me to be a witness, in order to blame Rachapol for sexual harassment but I couldn't write that because there was nothing like that happened in the restaurant by Rachapol. The reason that I didn't write the letter for protecting him at that time is that I didn't want to lose my job but now I am not the Employee of Choc Dee Thai Restaurant anymore, so I'm writing this letter to confirm that Ratchapol is innocent for those accusements."[41]
"...normally it's not that a gay man would have sexual desires for a woman, and even if I met a guy with - that looks attractive, but I don't like him, so there's no way, so let alone a woman"[43]
Summary of the Respondent's submissions and evidence
Small Business Fair Dismissal Code (SBFDC/ the Code)
"[27] Deputy President Bartel in Narong Khammaneechan v Nanakhon Pty Ltd ATF Nanakhon Trading Trust T/A Banana Tree Café_[50]_ said:
"[60] At the outset it is appropriate to note that unlike a consideration of the dismissal of an Employee of a business that is not a small business Employer, the function of FWA is not to determine on the evidence whether there was a valid reason for dismissal. That is, the exercise in the present matter does not involve a finding on the evidence as to whether the Applicant did or did not steal the money. The application of the Small Business Fair Dismissal Code involves a determination as to whether there were reasonable grounds on which the Respondent reached the view that the Applicant's conduct was serious enough to justify immediate dismissal. As such, the determination is to be based on the knowledge available to the Employer at the time of the dismissal, and necessarily involves an assessment of the reasonableness of the steps taken by the Employer to gather relevant information on which the decision to dismiss was based.""
[28] Senior Deputy President O'Callaghan in Harley v Rosecrest Asset Pty Ltd T/A Can Do International_[51]_ said:
"[8] For an Employer to believe on reasonable grounds that the Employee's conduct is sufficiently serious to justify immediate dismissal, it is firstly necessary for the Employer to establish that the Employer did in fact hold the belief that as a matter of fact that (i) the conduct was by the Employee; (ii) the conduct was serious; and (iii) that the conduct justified immediate dismissal. This is to be contrasted to the provisions of s.387(a) where FWA, in determining whether there was a valid reason for the dismissal, must find whether the conduct in fact occurred.
[9] Secondly, it is necessary for the Employer to establish that there are reasonable grounds for the Employer holding the belief. It is thus necessary for the Employer to establish a basis for the belief held which is reasonable. In this regard it would usually be necessary for the Employer to establish what inquiries or investigations were made to support a basis for holding the belief. It would also ordinarily be expected that the belief held be put to the Employee, even though the grounds for holding it may not be. Failure to make sufficient inquiries or to put the accusation to the Employee in many circumstances might lead to a view that there were no reasonable grounds for the belief to be held."
[29] We believe that the approach and observations in these two decisions are correct. There are two steps in the process of determining whether this aspect of the Small Business Fair Dismissal Code is satisfied. First, there needs to be a consideration whether, at the time of dismissal, the Employer held a belief that the Employee's conduct was sufficiently serious to justify immediate dismissal. Secondly it is necessary to consider whether that belief was based on reasonable grounds. The second element incorporates the concept that the Employer has carried out a reasonable investigation into the matter. It is not necessary to determine whether the Employer was correct in the belief that it held.
[30] Acting reasonably does not require a single course of action. Different Employers may approach the matter differently and form different conclusions, perhaps giving more benefit of any doubt, but still be acting reasonably. The legislation requires a consideration of whether the particular Employer, in determining its course of action in relation to the Employee at the time of dismissal, carried out a reasonable investigation, and reached a reasonable conclusion in all the circumstances. Those circumstances include the experience and resources of the small business Employer concerned."
Sufficiently serious conduct to warrant summary dismissal - assessment of the evidence
Belief of conduct must be made on reasonable grounds - sexual harassment consideration

"Normally in order to hold a belief on reasonable grounds it will be necessary to have a discussion with the Employee about the perceived serious misconduct and pay regard to the explanations and views given by the Employee."[87]
No investigation of alleged conduct prior to dismissal
"I researched what action I should take, and I found that if the Bullying and sexual harassment was sufficiently serious, the offending Employee's employment could be terminated immediately without a Notice of Termination. I kept a copy of the page on the website that I relied upon."[89]
"The website indicated that I could terminate Tui's employment by following the Small Business Fair Dismissal Code Checklist. I used the checklist to determine whether Tui's employment could or should be terminated."[90]
"...At no stage did [case manager] or anyone else suggest to me that I needed to provide Tui with an opportunity to respond. I genuinely understood that, due to the volume of uncontradicted evidence from multiple sources which appeared to me to be genuine, I could terminate Tui's employment immediately."[91]
"Even if I had met with Tui before his employment was terminated or upon his return from Thailand, I still felt compelled to terminate his employment because of the multiple serious allegations of Bullying and sexual harassment made against him and my obligation to protect my Employee."[92]
"I made a decision that the behavior reported to me by my Employee was serious misconduct. Even if Mr Saengtes or Ms Sanohpin were employed by me at the time of the questionnaire and even if they responded advising they hadn't observed any Bullying or sexual harassment by Tui, there was sufficient complaints that I would still have to proceed with the course I took. I genuinely believed that I was required by law to act in the way in which I did."[93]
No requirement for immediacy of action - procedural fairness required
"[62] I do not consider that the Code's 'summary dismissal' stream requires an Employer to dismiss an Employee 'immediately'. The relevant provisions of the Code refer first to the dismissal, which must be without notice or warning; and then to the Employer's reasonable belief, which is that the conduct is serious enough to justify immediate dismissal. The Code does not state that the dismissal will only be fair if it is effected immediately."
"[63] In my view, the Code contemplates some period between the conduct justifying immediate dismissal and the dismissal. It requires that the Employer must have a reasonable basis to believe that the conduct is sufficiently serious. It may take the Employer some time to satisfy itself that there is a reasonable basis for immediate dismissal. It may be necessary to conduct an investigation into the relevant conduct. Where an Employer does not dismiss an Employee immediately once it has investigated the relevant conduct, doubt might in some cases be cast on whether the Employer truly believed (on reasonable grounds) that the conduct was serious enough to justify summary dismissal."
Was the dismissal harsh, unjust or unreasonable?
"(a) whether there was a valid reason for the dismissal related to the person's capacity or conduct (including its effect on the safety and welfare of other Employees);"
"[116] The appropriate time for assessing the reasons for termination is at the time of dismissal (17 March 2022). This was addressed in CSL Ltd t/as CSL Behring v Chris Papaioannou,27 where the Full Bench of the Fair Work Commission found that:
"The tension between Lion Dairy and Jetstar is to be resolved by the adoption of the approach in Jetstar. In a dismissal related to the person's capacity, s.387(a) requires the Commission to consider and make findings as to whether, at the time of dismissal, the Applicant suffered from the alleged incapacity. Such findings are to be based on the relevant medical and other evidence before the Commission."
(1) For the purposes of this Act, a person sexually harasses another person (the person harassed ) if:
(c) the person makes an unwelcome sexual advance, or an unwelcome request for sexual favours, to the person harassed; or
(d) engages in other unwelcome conduct of a sexual nature in relation to the person harassed; in circumstances in which a reasonable person, having regard to all the circumstances, would have anticipated the possibility that the person harassed would be offended, humiliated or intimidated.
(1A) For the purposes of subsection (1), the circumstances to be taken into account include, but are not limited to, the following:
(e) the sex, age, sexual orientation, gender identity, intersex status, marital or relationship status, religious belief, race, colour, or national or ethnic origin, of the person harassed;
(f) the relationship between the person harassed and the person who made the advance or request or who engaged in the conduct;
(g) any disability of the person harassed;
(h) any other relevant circumstance.
"conduct of a sexual nature" includes making a statement of a sexual nature to a person, or in the presence of a person, whether the statement is made orally or in writing."
"Nantawan stopped working at the Choc Dee in June 2022. She told me [Kanokwan] it was because she could not work with Tui any longer. As she had arranged to take up another job, I did not say anything to Tui or Craig."[104]
"While inappropriate touching is not acceptable in Thai culture, we are also taught to respect our elders. It was a combination of these reasons why I [Nantawan] did not tell the owner, Craig about Tui's poor conduct."[105]
"Tui's poor behaviour was a common topic of conversation with the female Employee of Choc Dee, but I [Patsachol] never told the owner, craig McGilvery because I didn't want to get into trouble, and I wanted to avoid conflict or confrontation. It is also a requirement of my visa that I be employed, and I didn't want to jeopardise that."[106]
"No one told me because they didn't want to create a problem at work apparently, and this is what they're - this is what they're saying now. I've asked them, 'Why didn't you tell me before?' And they knew how important Ratchapol was to the business. So that is why they preferred, especially in Nantawan's and Nongyao's case, to leave the employment of Choc Dee, rather than stay and put up with his harassment."[107]
"and they were reticent about doing anything like that. They didn't want to start any more problems. Both Nantawan and Nongyao left Choc Dee's employment due to problems with Ratchapol, of what he was saying and doing. I did not know at that stage any of those previous consequences, why they actually decided to leave. They just said they can't work with Tui any more, so they actually left. Even though Nantawan was living in my house at (address supplied) and even though Nongyao Anderson had been a long‑term Employee - she basically started the first year I bought the restaurant, 2011 - but no one at any stage instigated to me or informed me that Tui had been sticking a spoon up someone's backside, groping them on the behind, touching their groin, (indistinct) - I did not know any of that until the questionnaires come back."[108]
"...they don't understand, you know, to say that they're going to tell the truth doesn't mean that they're always going to tell the truth. I think they need to be made aware of the repercussions of that."[109]
"Yes, I have. I have seen and heard that Ratchapol (Tui) harassed other Employee. One of them was me. I used to face dirty jokes from Tui many times also be harassed by touching my buttocks. I tried to let it go because I know that's not the kind of person he is, but I should not."[110]
"I usually just ignored his comments and didn't respond to him but after a while, about the middle of 2021, he started touching me inappropriately. He would usually touch me on my bottom but once touched me in the groin area. I told him repeatedly not to touch me. I think he was trying to be funny as he would laugh when he did it and it was if he was just trying to get a reaction from me or make me feel uncomfortable. It would happen once or twice a week."[111]
'I knew he was gay, but he would often say loudly to me and other Employee that he was "going to fuck" us'. Regardless of sexuality she says 'I still did not like it'. [112]
"He said he would grab me and fuck me and make me his wife."[113]
"Yes, I've heard Tui said not a good words to Employee including myself. And I've seen Tui tried to kiss my sister (Nantawan) and other Employee also he touched my sister's buttocks and other Employee too."[119]
"in the first half of 2022 I saw him touch Nantawan's bottom on a few occasions, and I saw him try and kiss the back of her neck."[120]
"in 2022 I saw him poke Nongyao, the second chef in the bottom with a large curry spoon. She told him to leave her alone."[121]
"He would also touch me inappropriately. This started in about the second week of my return to work in July 2022. He liked to slap my bottom when I was bending over the sink. I gave a little scream and moved away from him when he did this because I did not like it."[132]
"I also saw him touch or poke Nongyao on the bottom a few times..."[133]
"MR WALL: Where? Where he touch you? On the breast? On the bum?
WITNESS: Okay. He came behind my back while I was packing up and washing wet bowls, packing things. He used to put his finger - how do I put it? He used to put his fingers each other and put it behind my back.
MR WALL: I don't quite understand. Crossed finger? Did you say crossed?
MR WALL: Go like this? (Mr Wall demonstrated a gesture)
WITNESS: Yes. (The witness demonstrated a gesture)
MR WALL: Where he put the finger? In your back? Or your bottom?
"...that witness had her fingers crossed behind her back. What she failed to do when she brought her hand out to the front of the court is that those fingers were still crossed which means for Thai people to do that it means they're usually lying. She forgot to uncross them when she brought her fingers out to the front."[135]
"Yes, I've seen and heard Tui said bad words to Employee a few times and a few times he has touched me and tried to kiss other Employee including myself."[141]
"I can recall that he touched me inappropriately on at least three occasions. It may have been more than three because I just tried to ignore him and get on with my job. I specifically recall the three occasions because I objected very strongly to his actions."[142]
"In early 2022, I was working at my bench and when he passed behind me, he thrust his groin up against my backside. I don't know if he was trying to make a joke, but I did not appreciate it and told him so."[143]
"On at least one occasion during 2022, he poked a spatula into my bottom. This made me feel annoyed and I told him to get away from me."[144]
"In January 2023, he was in a happy mood. I think he had won some money or something like that. He kissed me on the back of my neck twice from behind. I told him that I didn't like it, to not do it again..."[145]
"Tui would inappropriately touch other Employee more than me because I would very strongly react to his approaches. He would often harass Nantawan by touching her bottom her arm and once, I saw him touch her groin area."[146]
"Yes, I used to seen and heard he said a lot of bad words to all Employee and touched my bottom."[155]
"Yes, I have seen Tui touch other Employee's body without their permission, ex: kissing cheek or touching bottoms. And honestly, I feel uncomfortable to work with him as I always heard he talking bad words or making joke with other Employee's body (body shaming)."[156]
"Between July 2022 and October 2022, he touched me [Saratuttaya] inappropriately on the bottom about ten times. This often involved his hand brushing against my bottom when I was unpacking the dishwasher. At the end of my shift when the restaurant is quieter, I would dry and polish the dishes in the dishwasher and put them away. I face the dishwasher when I do this and when Tui walks past, he would brush his hand against my bottom."[157]
"I [Saratuttaya] saw him touch other Employee on the bottom when I delivered order dockets to the kitchen. When I had just started in June 2022, I saw him touch Nantawan on the bottom regularly. I also saw him touch Nongyao on the bottom with a curry spoon. When he poked her in the bottom with the spoon she gave a little scream and moved away."[158]
'I [Patsachol] saw him touch [Nantawan] on the bottom at least once a week as she worked in the kitchen with him. Sometimes he would squeeze her bottom and on other occasions he would quickly pat or brush against her bottom and move on'[159]
"I [Pataschol] also saw him touch Nongyao on the bottom a few times..."[160]
Consideration of the alleged conduct on the 3 limbs of the Beesley Test
(1) For the purposes of this Act, a person sexually harasses another person (the person harassed ) if:
(a) the person makes an unwelcome sexual advance, or an unwelcome request for sexual favours, to the person harassed; or
(b) engages in other unwelcome conduct of a sexual nature in relation to the person harassed;
in circumstances in which a reasonable person, having regard to all the circumstances, would have anticipated the possibility that the person harassed would be offended, humiliated or intimidated.
(1A) For the purposes of subsection (1), the circumstances to be taken into account include, but are not limited to, the following:
(a) the sex, age, sexual orientation, gender identity, intersex status, marital or relationship status, religious belief, race, colour, or national or ethnic origin, of the person harassed;
(b) the relationship between the person harassed and the person who made the advance or request or who engaged in the conduct;
(c) any disability of the person harassed;
(d) any other relevant circumstance.
"conduct of a sexual nature" includes making a statement of a sexual nature to a person, or in the presence of a person, whether the statement is made orally or in writing."
387(b) and 387(c) whether the person was notified of that reason and was given an opportunity to respond
(d) any unreasonable refusal by the Employer to allow the person to have a support person present to assist at any discussions relating to dismissal
(e) if the dismissal related to unsatisfactory performance by the person - whether the person had been warned about that unsatisfactory performance before the dismissal
(f) and (g) the degree to which the size of the Employer's enterprise and the degree to which the absence of dedicated human resource management specialists or expertise in the enterprise would be likely to impact on the procedures followed in effecting the dismissal
(h) any other matters that the FWC considers relevant.
390 When the FWC may order remedy for unfair dismissal
(1) Subject to subsection (3), the FWC may order a person's reinstatement, or the payment of compensation to a person, if:
(a) the FWC is satisfied that the person was protected from unfair dismissal (see Division 2) at the time of being dismissed; and
(b) the person has been unfairly dismissed (see Division 3).
(2) the FWC may make the order only if the person has made an application under section 394.
(3) the FWC must not order the payment of compensation to the person unless:
(a) the FWC is satisfied that reinstatement of the person is inappropriate; and
(b) the FWC considers an order for payment of compensation is appropriate in all the circumstances of the case.
Note: Division 5 deals with procedural matters such as applications for remedies.
(1) An order for the payment of compensation to a person must be an order that the person's Employer at the time of the dismissal pay compensation to the person in lieu of reinstatement.
(2) In determining an amount for the purposes of an order under subsection (1), the FWC must take into account all the circumstances of the case including:
(a) the effect of the order on the viability of the Employer's enterprise; and
(b) the length of the person's service with the Employer; and
(c) the remuneration that the person would have received, or would have been likely to receive, if the person had not been dismissed; and
(d) the efforts of the person (if any) to mitigate the loss suffered by the person because of the dismissal; and
(e) the amount of any remuneration earned by the person from employment or other work during the period between the dismissal and the making of the order for compensation; and
(f) the amount of any income reasonably likely to be so earned by the person during the period between the making of the order for compensation and the actual compensation; and
(g) any other matter that the FWC considers relevant.
(3) If the FWC is satisfied that misconduct of a person contributed to the Employer's decision to dismiss the person, the FWC must reduce the amount it would otherwise order under subsection (1) by an appropriate amount on account of the misconduct.
(4) The amount ordered by the FWC to be paid to a person under subsection (1) must not include a component by way of compensation for shock, distress or humiliation, or other analogous hurt, caused to the person by the manner of the person's dismissal.
(5) The amount ordered by the FWC to be paid to a person under subsection (1) must not exceed the lesser of:
(a) the amount worked out under subsection (6); and
(b) half the amount of the high income threshold immediately before the dismissal.
(6) The amount is the total of the following amounts:
(whichever is higher) for any period of employment with the Employer during the 26 weeks immediately before the dismissal; and
(b) if the Employee was on leave without pay or without full pay while so employed during any part of that period - the amount of remuneration taken to have been received by the Employee for the period of leave in accordance with the regulations."

[4] Form F3 - Employer Response - Question 1.5.
[7] [2014] FWCFB 1663 at [24].
[9] Applicant Submissions, Letter dated 1 January 2023.
[10] Witness Statement of Kanokwan Saenkaew at [9].
[14] Form F3 - Employer Response - question 18.
[23] Witness Statement of Craig McGilvery at [9].
[24] Witness statement of Craig McGilvery at [18]-[20].
[25] Applicant Bundle of Submissions, email correspondence attachment dated 13 February 2023.
[26] Applicant Bundle of Submissions, email correspondence attachment dated 13 February 2023.
[27] Witness Statement of Craig McGilvery; CAM-03.
[28] Witness Statement of Craig McGilvery at [14](c).
[29] Witness Statement of Craig McGilvery, attachment CAM-06.
[30] Witness Statement of Craig McGilvery; CAM-02.
[33] Applicant Bundle of Submissions, letters dated 30 January 2023 and 7 February 2023.
[34] Applicant Submissions in Reply, page 2; PN1231, PN1238.
[39] Applicant Submissions in Reply at [40].
[40] Applicant Reply Submissions dated 16 June 2023.
[41] Applicant Bundle of Submissions, letter from Suppatra Soncharoen.
[45] Respondent Outline of Submissions at [13].
[46] Respondent Outline of Submissions at [14].
[47] Respondent Outline of Submissions at [2]-[5].
[48] Respondent Outline of Submissions at [8].
[49] Cole v Roy Hill Station Pty Ltd T/A Roy Hill Station [2019] FWC 5358 at [62].
[53] [2019] FWC 5358 at [95].
[54] Survey Response of Saruttaya Naiyana dated 10 February 2023;
[55] Survey Response of Saruttaya Naiyana dated 10 February 2023.
[56] Survey Response of Patsachol Kumpukheaw dated 10 February 2023.
[57] Survey Response of Kanokwan Saenkew dated 10 February 2023.
[58] Survey Response of Nantawan Saenkaew dated 10 February 2023.
[59] Small Business Fair Dismissal Code.
[62] Applicant Submissions in Reply at [70].
[63] Applicant Submissions in Reply at [75].
[64] Applicant Submissions in Reply at [80] and [95].
[70] Witness Statement of Craig McGilvery at [10]-[11] and Exhibit CAM-01; PN952, PN106, PN972
[71] PN924, Survey of Employees dated 10 February 2023; email correspondence to Suppatra Soncharoen dated 10 February 2023.
[76] Applicant Reply Submissions dated 16 June 202.
[77] Witness Statement of Craig McGilvery, Witness Statement of Nantawan Saenkaew and Witness Statement of Kanokwan Saenkaew; Witness Statement of Patsachol Kumpukheaw; PN1053.
[78] Witness Statement of Nantawan Saenkaew at [1].
[82]Witness Statement of Craig McGilvery at [8].
[85] Witness Statement of Craig McGilvery at [11].
[89] Witness Statement of Craig McGilvery at [11].
[90] Witness Statement of Craig McGilvery at [13].
[91] Witness Statement of Craig McGilvery at [18].
[92] Witness Statement of Craig McGilvery at [21].
[93] Witness Statement of Craig McGilvery at [26]
[94] PN664, PN730, Applicant Bundle of Submissions, Applicant Submissions in Reply.
[96] Pinawin T/A Rose.Vi.Hair.Face.Body v Domingo [2012] FWAFB 1359 at [30]; Harley v Rosecrest Asset Pty Ltd T/A Can Do International [2011] FWA 3922 at [9]; King v Freshmore (Vic) Pty Ltd Print S4213 (AIRCFB, Ross VP, Williams SDP, Hingley C, 17 March 2000), [23]-[24].
[98] Selvachandran v Peteron Plastics Pty Ltd [1995] IRCA 333; (1995) 62 IR 371, 373.
[99] Selvachandran v Peteron Plastics Pty Ltd [1995] IRCA 333; (1995) 62 IR 371, 373.
[100] Edwards v Justice Giudice [1999] FCA 1836, [7].
[101] Exeter-Grant v Village Roadshow Theme Parks Pty Ltd [2022] FWC 2027 at [116]; and upheld on appeal in [2023] FWCFB 75. See also the authorities referred to CSL Ltd t/as CSL Behring v Chris Papaioannou [2018] FWCFB 1005.
[104] Witness Statement of Kanokwan Saenkaew at [12].
[105] Witness Statement of Nantawan Saenkaew at [10].
[106] Witness Statement of Pataschol Kumpukheaw at [8].
[110] Survey Response of Nantawan Saenkaew dated 10 February 2023.
[111] Witness Statement of Nantawan Saenkaew at [9].
[112] Witness Statement of Nantawan Saenkaew at [9].
[114] Applicant Submissions in Reply, page 3.
[116] Applicant Submissions in Reply, page 3.
[119] Survey Response of Kanokwan Saenkew dated 10 February 2023.
[120] Witness Statement of Kanokwan Saekaew at [12].
[121] Witness Statement of Kanokwan Saekaew at [13].
[122] Applicant Submissions in Reply, page 2.
[124] Form F3 - Employer Response, attachment Letter to Employee dated 30 January 2023
[128] Email correspondence of Mr Jamie McAllister dated 5 July 2023.
[132] Witness Statement of Sudathip Saenkhamwang at [6].
[133] Witness Statement of Sudathip Saenkhamwang at [9].
[136] Applicant Submissions in Reply, page 4.
[137] Applicant Submissions in Reply, attachment of bank records dated 31 July 2021 and 15 August 2021.
[138] Applicant Submissions in Reply, page 4.
[141] Survey Response of Nongyao Anderson dated 10 February 2023.
[142] Witness Statement of Nongyao Anderson at [9].
[143] Witness Statement of Nongyao Anderson at [10].
[144] Witness Statement of Nongyao Anderson at [11].
[145] Witness Statement of Nongyao Anderson at [12].
[146] Witness Statement of Nongyao Anderson at [13].
[147] Applicant Submissions in Reply, page 6.
[151] Applicant Submissions in Reply, page 6.
[152] Applicant Submissions in Reply, page 6; PN743, PN835.
[153] Applicant Submissions in Reply, page 6
[154] Applicant Submissions in Reply, page 7.
[155] Survey Response of Saruttaya Naiyana dated 10 February 2023.
[156] Survey Response of Patsachol Kumpukheaw dated 10 February 2023.
[157] Witness Statement of Saratuttaya Naiyana at [6].
[158] Witness Statement of Saratuttaya Naiyana at [8].
[159] Witness Statement of Pataschol Kumpukheaw at [6].
[160] Witness Statement of Pataschol Kumpukheaw at [7].
[161] Applicant Submissions in Reply, page 7.
[162] Applicant Submissions in Reply, page 7.
[163] Applicant Bundle of Submissions, letter from Suppatra Soncharoen.
[164] Bartlett v Ingleburn Bus Services Pty Ltd [2020] FWCFB 6429, [19]; Reseigh v Stegbar Pty Ltd [2020] FWCFB 533, [55].
[167] Williams v The Chuang Family Trust t/a Top Hair Design [2012] FWA 9517 at [40].
[168] Closing submissions of the Respondent dated 22 June 2023.
[172] Tabro Meat Pty Ltd v Kevin Heffernan [2011] FWAFB 1080 [21]. See also the other authorities cited by Beaumont DP in Atherton v Airmaster Australia Pty Ltd [2018] FWC 3109 at [158] - [162].
[173] Applicant Additional Submissions dated 16 June 2023, page 2.
[174] Respondent Closing Submissions dated 22 June 2023 at [36].
[175] Applicant Additional Submissions dated 16 June 2023, payslips.
[178] Applicant Additional Submissions dated 16 June 2023, page 2.
[179] AIRC, Print R0235, (24 December 1998).
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