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[2023] WASCA 49
Court of Appeal (WA)
2023-03-29
Quinlan CJ
Original judgment source is linked above.
Did your dad tell you to say these things about [the appellant]?---No. No.
Okay. I'm just going to ask you some questions and can you just tell me whether they're true or not?---Okay.
Okay. So if I said to you [the appellant] never touched your girlie bits, would that be true or false?---Not true.
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Has [the appellant] ever touched your girlie bits? True or false?---True.
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If I said to you that [the appellant] hasn't touched you on the girlie bits, would that be true or false?---False.
Okay. And is it true or false that [the appellant] has put his mouth - [the appellant] has put his mouth on your bum?---That's true.
That's true. And is it true or false that [the appellant] has put his willy in your mouth?---True.
Okay, it's all true. So if I said that - if I said that none of that happened, that would be false, would it?---Yes
And I suggest to you that around November of 2020 you began coaching your son, [HW] to give a certain statement?---No. I do not coach my children.
You coached [HW] to tell people that [the appellant] put his willy in [HW's] mouth?---No. I did not.
And on 13 November that year, a complaint was made to the police about that allegation?---Yes, it was, by my sister and my mother.
And you're aware that your son spoke to police about that?---Yes. I am.
He was living with you at that time?---Under direction of DCP putting them in to my - my care - - -
Yes?---- - - of a safety plan - - -
Yes?---- - - away from [the appellant].
And you're aware that your son later gave evidence in court about that?‑‑‑Yes. I do.
And are you aware that your son was asked about telling a police lady things about [the appellant]?---Yes. I am.
And it was suggested to your son that the things that he said about [the appellant] were not true and your son agreed?---I'm not aware of that.
And it was suggested to [HW] that it wasn't the truth that [the appellant] put [HW's] willy in [the appellant's]mouth and [HW] agreed?---I'm not privy to that information, I was not told.
It was suggested to [HW] that he only said those things about [the appellant] because someone told him to say it and [HW] said, 'Yeah'?‑‑‑Not that I was told. Nor did I tell him.
I suggest to you that when you were coaching [HW] to make statements, [IW] - - -?---Which I was not.
[IW] was there as well?---No, I was not coaching either of them to make statements.
And you coached [IW] to make a statement against [the appellant]?‑‑‑No, I did not.
At any stage did you coach or do anything towards [HW] to get him to say things about [the appellant]?---No, I did not.
And when I say things, to suggest that [the appellant]put his mouth on his penis?---No, I did not. I refrained from talking about the - both of them, as that was their relationship and I was spending time with my children. At the time, I wanted to make the best of my kids.
All right. Now, as far as the - what was said in court, you said you weren't aware of what [HW] said, in court at all?---No, I wasn't.
All right, how old was [HW] when this allegation first came out? It's 2020, isn't it?---Yeah, he was -it was just after his fourth birthday.
And - so that's November 2020 and he was giving evidence in November 2021, is that correct?---Yes, that's correct.
Now, again, have you ever, and it was suggested that you coached [IW] to say things about [the appellant]?---I have never coached [IW] to say anything about [the appellant].
You've also mentioned that [IW], what she did she touched her mouth and touched her vagina and mentioned that [the appellant] put his mouth on her girlie bits?---Yes, that's correct.
Did you get any other detail of any other offences?---No, that was the only thing that she told me.
Are you aware of what the other offences are?---No. I am not.
Did you at any stage coach [IW] at all?---No.
[T]he whole thrust of the defence is that [GW] has cajoled, forced, persuaded both [HW] and [IW] to make this up. It's also suggested that he fabricated the offence of bodily harm which was discontinued at some stage.
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[HW]. Again a very young child, and that one count has disappeared. Again you have to think about - again this is something that's alleged. This is that a parent has tried to persuade their child to tell a story of such seriousness to a number of people over an extended period of time, because that's what it is.
So on the defence version of events he's persuaded both children to make an allegation. Firstly, they go and tell it to a grandparent. So that's the first stage. Then it comes to a police officer with the Child Assessment Team. So that's another person.
Then, once it gets through that process, it then goes to a prosecutor. You saw and you heard that - Tara Payne was the prosecutor who saw [IW] a day or so before and watched the initial child interview. Then it comes to court.
And when you think about all the difficulties - I mean think of a place to be. Putting a child up to do that very, very serious, very important job. This is not some paid criminal who's coming here to lie and give an alibi for someone.
This is a very, very young child and she's come - on the defence account, really, she's come here to lie because dad has told her to do this, because dad is going to get a benefit, seeing her more often or something. So you're putting a child up to do this very, very difficult job.
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So threats? I mean, it's very difficult to know what you'd have to do to a very young child to persuade her to carry on, to say all these things. I'd suggest there's nothing you can do to say - or to make, persuade a child to continue with a story that they know is a lie. Children inherently, I suggest, want to tell the truth.
But of course, that is the thrust of [it]isn't it? It's all a stitch-up. He's being stitched up by [IW] because [GW]wants her to do this job.
It failed with [HW]. Again a very young child being cross‑examined, even younger than [IW] was. And he did change the story. Yes, I accept that. No problem with that. But again very young. Look at the child. And you didn't even see him but obviously a very, very young child.
And you heard [GW] say the age. I think he said he wasn't even three at the time. Again think of any child yourself who's not even three, whether they could stand up to it. (emphasis added)
Now, those things that you told about [the appellant] - - -?---[the appellant], yeah?
- - - that wasn't true, was it?---No.
No. So - and I just want to - - -
WALLACE DCJ: Maybe just be a little bit more specific, please, Mr Hampson.
THE WITNESS: Yes. Yes.
HAMPSON, DR: You told that lady in the video - - -?---Yes.
- - - that [the appellant] - - -?---Yeah.
Hold on, [HW], for a second?---Yeah?
You told that lady in the - in - in the video that [the appellant] - - -?‑‑‑Yeah.
- - -[the appellant] put his willy in your mouth. Do you remember telling her that?---Mm hmm.
PAYNE, MS: I object. That's not his evidence.
THE WITNESS: Yes.
HAMPSON, DR: (Indistinct).
Sorry, [HW]. Sorry, you told that lady, [HW] - - -?---Yeah?
- - - that you put your willy - - -?---Yeah.
- - - in [the appellant's] mouth. Do you remember telling her that?‑‑‑Yeah.
Yes, but that's not the truth, was it?---No.
No. That didn't happen, did it?---Mm mm.
No. But did you just tell that lady that that happened because - - -?‑‑‑Mm hmm.
- - - someone else told you to say that?---Yeah.
Yes. And who told you to say that? Was it your dad?---Yeah.
Do you remember when the lady was asking you about your private parts?---Yeah.
Sorry?---Yes.
Okay. And she asked you about something that - if [the appellant] did something to your private parts?---Yeah.
And you - you told her about something that [the appellant] did to your private parts?---Yeah.
Did that really happen?---No.
When you spoke to the lady in the interview - - -?---Yeah.
- - - were you trying to tell her everything that you could remember that happened with [the appellant]?---Yes.
Okay. And were you telling her the truth?---Yeah.
[IW] said she knows it's the truth [as to what [the appellant] did to her] because he did the same thing to her brother. When asked what she meant by this, she said that her brother, [HW], had told her what [the appellant] did to him. She said that this occurred at her Nanna's house when her Daddy and Nanna were present. She cannot recall what day this was.
In my opinion we may well call [DW] to give evidence - but only if certain evidence is not adduced through [GW]. I suspect most of the evidence we would need from [DW] can be garnered from [GW] in cross‑examination anyway. I don't think he will have much cause to dispute the existence of various Family Court orders over the years, for instance, although he may quibble about the reasons and justifications for those orders.
The case theory as I see it is this: [GW] has motivation to coax his children into making false allegations. There have been numerous Family Court struggles over the years between he and [DW], including an accusation that he abused his daughter. He was, unjustifiably or not, angry and vindictive at [DW]. When [DW] notified him that she wanted to move address and ultimately take the children to a different school he was angry again and wanted to maintain control of the children to spite [DW]. It was only after [DW] notifying him of he [sic] proposed move that the complaints of abuse surfaced.
I will also draw attention to the lack of complaint from [IW] when she was in the car with [HW] and [SW]. When [HW] apparently made his complaint to [SW], [IW] was present, responsive to [SW]'s questions, and would have heard it.
I will also argue that I should be permitted to cross examine [GW] and [SW] on two things: one, that [HW] apparently made a complaint to [SW] on 13 November 2020, but later contradicted his complaint in evidence. Secondly, [IW] was present when [HW] apparently made his complaint on 13 November but did not make any complaint herself. It was not until two days later that [GW] claims she made her complaint. I will argue that this is relevant to our case theory that [GW] has put both of his children up to making false allegations because of the extended Family Court disputes between he and [DW].
I have been given legal advice about the strategy of the defence case. One proposed strategy is to admit evidence of [HW]'s complaint against me, as well as the fact that the charge was discontinued when [HW] contradicted his own evidence and agreed that [GW] had urged his to say things about me.
I understand the downside to this strategy is that the jury will hear that I had another charge against me. A further downside is that the State may well recall [HW] as a witness, in which case [HW] might go back to his original evidence.
I understand that the benefit to my case is that the jury will hear that the State discontinued a charge against me and that [HW] gave evidence that [GW] urged his to lie. A further benefit is I can establish evidence of the timing of [HW]'s complaint when [IW] was present, and [IW]'s later complaint.
Further, even if [HW] were recalled the point could still be made that his evidence was inconsistent and that he has been in the corrupting influence of [GW] since the case began.
(a) She alleged [GW] had sexually abused [IW].
(b) That allegation was before [IW and HW] complained against the appellant.
(c) That allegation was a potential motive for [GW] to coach [IW].
Ground 1 - preliminary issue - viewing the pre-recording
(a) When it is put to him that what he told the interviewer about the appellant was not true, he answers 'no' and then, seconds later, without another question being asked, 'yes, yes'.
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> (b) Counsel puts to HW that he told the interviewer that the appellant put his willy in HW's mouth. Counsel then corrects this to HW put his willy in the appellant's mouth. In fact, neither of these formulations is correct. What HW told the interviewer was that the appellant put HW's willy into the appellant's mouth. The question of who did the 'putting' might well have been significant to a 5‑year‑old child. When HW agreed that the second formulation was untrue the error contained in the question may have been significant.
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> (c) When asked whether someone had told him to 'say that', HW nods and says 'Mm hmm' halfway through the question. He does not refer to his father but agrees when the suggestion is put to him. This has the appearance of being gratuitous concurrence.
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> (d) In re-examination when asked what his dad had told him, HW says that his father had told him that he loves him. Asked if his dad had told him anything about the appellant, HW says 'no'. He then agrees that he had spoken to his father about the appellant but when asked about what says 'I don't know'.
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> (e) In re-examination HW gives an unambiguous 'no' answer when asked whether what he alleged really happened, but immediately after that answer he says that everything he had told the interviewer was the truth.
The jury, upon adequate instruction, would not find it unreasonable that a person, the father ,who had coached [HW] would not have coached [IW] as well ... if the jury had been told the [HW] had been coached, then it would not be unreasonable for the jury to say he could have coached [IW] too ... That lays a foundation for the jury to find a reasonable doubt about whether [IW]'s evidence was true and accurate or, instead, whether it had been coached.
Ground 1 - relevant law - admissibility of the pre-recording
Ground 1 - relevant law - incompetence of counsel
It is not this court's function to merely second-guess defence counsel's forensic choices and decide that the cross‑examination may have been more effective if it had been carried out differently. Defence counsel's cross‑examination was explicable on the basis that it involved the making of reasonable forensic choices. While other defence counsel may have conducted the cross‑examination of [the complainant] differently, that does not make defence counsel's cross‑examination 'inadequate', not does it constitute a miscarriage of justice.
I certify that the preceding paragraph(s) comprise the reasons for decision of the Supreme Court of Western Australia.
[45] Affidavit of Andrew Wun Nam Au sworn 4 August 2022, page 32.
[46] Affidavit of Andrew Wun Nam Au sworn 4 August 2022, page 34.
[47] Affidavit of Andrew Wun Nam Au sworn 4 August 2022, pages 34 - 37.
[48] Affidavit of Andrew Wun Nam Au sworn 4 August 2022, page 37.
[49] Affidavit of Andrew Wun Nam Au sworn 4 August 2022, page 38.
[50] Affidavit of Andrew Wun Nam Au sworn 4 August 2022, page 41.
[51] Affidavit of Andrew Wun Nam Au sworn 4 August 2022, page 43.
[57] Affidavit of Andrew Wun Nam Au sworn 22 June 2022, page 2.
[58] Affidavit of Andrew Wun Nam Au sworn 22 June 2022, pages 3 - 4.
[59] Affidavit of Clint James Hampson sworn 17 June 2022, page 27.
[60] Affidavit of Andrew Wun Nam Au sworn 22 June 2022, page 3.
[63] Affidavit of [DW] sworn 23 June 2022, pages 2 - 4.
[64] Affidavit of [DW] sworn 23 June 2022, page 4.
[66] Affidavit of Clint James Hampson sworn 17 June 2022, pages 2 - 3.
[67] Affidavit of Clint James Hampson sworn 17 June 2022, page 4.
[68] Affidavit of Clint James Hampson sworn 17 June 2022, pages 4 - 5.
[69] Affidavit of Clint James Hampson sworn 17 June 2022, page 6.
[70] Affidavit of Clint James Hampson sworn 17 June 2022, page 7.
[72] Affidavit of Aidan Ferdinand Kraus sworn 19 May 2022, pages 1 - 2.
[73] Affidavit of Aidan Ferdinand Kraus sworn 19 May 2022, page 2.
[74] Affidavit of Aidan Ferdinand Kraus sworn 19 May 2022, page 2.
[75] Affidavit of Aidan Ferdinand Kraus sworn 19 May 2022, pages 2 - 3, 24.
[76] Affidavit of Aidan Ferdinand Kraus sworn 19 May 2022, page 24.
[77] Affidavit of Aidan Ferdinand Kraus sworn 19 May 2022, page 5.
[78] Affidavit of Aidan Ferdinand Kraus sworn 19 May 2022, page 26.
[79] Affidavit of Aidan Ferdinand Kraus sworn 19 May 2022, page 26.
[80] Affidavit of Aidan Ferdinand Kraus sworn 19 May 2022, pages 3 - 4.
[81] Affidavit of Aidan Ferdinand Kraus sworn 19 May 2022, page 4.
[82] Affidavit of Aidan Ferdinand Kraus sworn 19 May 2022, page 4.
[83] Affidavit of Aidan Ferdinand Kraus sworn 19 May 2022, pages 4 - 5.
[84] Affidavit of Aidan Ferdinand Kraus sworn 19 May 2022, pages 5 - 6.
[85] Affidavit of Aidan Ferdinand Kraus sworn 19 May 2022, page 6.
[86] Affidavit of Aidan Ferdinand Kraus sworn 19 May 2022, pages 28 - 29.
[91] Pell v The Queen [2020] HCA 12; (2020) 268 CLR 123.
[92] Pell v The Queen [36] - [39] cited in affidavit of Andrew Wun Nam Au affirmed 4 August 2022, pages 2 ‑ 3.
[98] US v Haggett, [1971] USCA2 325; 438 F2d 396 (1971).
[101] Amended appellant's case [41] - [43].
[106] R v Phillips (1936) 26 Cr App R 17.
[107] R v LSS [1998] QCA 303; [2000] 1 Qd R 546.
[108] R v BBQ [2009] QCA 166; (2009) 196 A Crim R 173.
[109] Respondent's answer [26] - [28]; WAB 37 - 39.
[110] Attorney-General v Hitchcock [1847] EngR 616; (1847) 1 Exch 91; (1847) 154 ER 38.
[111] Respondent's answer [31] - [32].
[112] Respondent's answer [32] - [33].
[113] Goldsmith v Sandilands [2002] HCA 31; (2000) 76 ALJR 1024 [3] (Gleeson CJ).
[114] Nicholls v The Queen [2005] HCA 1; (2005) 219 CLR 196 [62].
[115] R v Lawrence [2001] QCA 441; [2002] 2 Qd R 400 [27] (McPherson JA).
[116] Smith v The Queen (1993) 9 WAR 99.
[117] R v De Angelis (1979) 20 SASR 288.
[120] LSS [28] (Thomas JA, Pincus JA relevantly agreeing).
[125] Huggins v The State of Western Australia [2018] WASCA 61.
[126] Criminal Appeals Act 2004 (WA) s 30(3)(c); Nudd v The Queen [2006] HCA 9; (2006) 80 ALJR 614 [2]; KLM v The State of Western Australia [2009] WASCA 73; (2009) 194 A Crim R 503 [49].
[127] TKWJ v The Queen [2002] HCA 46; (2002) 212 CLR 124 [74]; McMahon v The State of Western Australia [2010] WASCA 143 [24]; CFM v The State of Western Australia [2017] WASCA 15 [118].
[129] TKWJ [74], [79]; R v Birks (1990) 19 NSWLR 677, 685; McMahon [24].
[130] Nudd [8]; KLM [51]; TKWJ [16].
[131]KLM [50]; McMahon [28]; Nudd [25].
[132] TKWJ [17] (Gleeson CJ), [27] (Gaudron J, Gummow J agreeing), [107] (Hayne J, Gummow J agreeing).
[133] Nudd [9] - [10]; TKWJ [107].
[135] TKWJ [79], [81] (McHugh J); Ali v The Queen [2005] HCA 8; (2005) 79 ALJR 662 [18] (Hayne J).
[136] RMM v The State of Western Australia [2018] WASCA 183.
[137] Jeffery v The State of Western Australia [2009] WASCA 133; (2009) 51 WAR 96.
[138] Amended appellant's case [45] - [46].
[139] Amended appellant's case [48] - [51].
[143] BGH v The State of Western Australia [2020] WASCA 124 [57].
[144] Amended appellant's case [52] - [61].
[145] Amended appellant's case [62].
[146] Amended appellant's case [63].
[147] Amended appellant's case [65] - [66].
[148] Respondent's answer [53]; appeal ts 81 - 82.
(2006) 80 ALJR 614
(1990) 19 NSWLR 677
(2005) 79 ALJR 662
(2009) 51 WAR 96
(2020) 268 CLR 123
(2000) 76 ALJR 1024
(2005) 219 CLR 196
(1993) 9 WAR 99
(1979) 20 SASR 288
(2002) 212 CLR 124