[2025] FWC 2611
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Fair Work Commission
2025-10-01
Original judgment source is linked above.
s.365 - Application to deal with contraventions involving dismissal
Application to deal with contraventions involving dismissal
(a) the person's employment with his or her employer has been terminated on the employer's initiative; or
(b) the person has resigned from his or her employment, but was forced to do so because of conduct, or a course of conduct, engaged in by his or her employer.
(a) the person was employed under a contract of employment for a specified period of time, for a specified task, or for the duration of a specified season, and the employment has terminated at the end of the period, on completion of the task, or at the end of the season; or
(ii) whose employment was for a specified period of time or was, for any reason, limited to the duration of the training arrangement;
and the employment has terminated at the end of the training arrangement; or
(i) the demotion does not involve a significant reduction in his or her remuneration or duties; and
(ii) he or she remains employed with the employer that effected the demotion.
(3) Subsection (2) does not apply to a person employed under a contract of a kind referred to in paragraph (2)(a) if a substantial purpose of the employment of the person under a contract of that kind is, or was at the time of the person's employment, to avoid the employer's obligations under this Part."
"To summarise, when an application is purportedly lodged under s 365 it is open to a respondent to assert that there has been no dismissal, so giving rise to a dispute on that question. Such a dispute falls to be determined not under s 368 but under s 365 itself. It is an antecedent dispute going to the entitlement of the applicant to apply. It is also open to a respondent to admit that a dismissal has occurred but dispute that the dismissal took effect within 21 days of the date that the application was filed. Such a dispute may give rise to an issue under s 366(1), involving as it does a question as to whether it is necessary for the FWC to determine whether more time should be "allowed" for the application to be made under s 365. That too is an antecedent dispute, going to the question of whether an application has been made. It is a dispute that must be resolved before the powers conferred by s 368 can be exercised at all."[2]
"1. The Applicant was employed as a casual security guard from 14 May 2024 and acknowledged there was no guarantee of regular hours.
2. Following complaints from Auto Sparky and Target, the Applicant was removed from those rosters but continued to receive shifts across November-December 2024.
3. The Applicant voluntarily applied for extended leave from 6 January to 17 April 2025.
4. On 27 March 2025, a Child Safety Prohibition Notice was issued under SA legislation, legally barring him from working with children - this directly affected his eligibility for most client sites.
5. He was never formally dismissed; rather, his rostering profile was temporarily archived due to long period of unavailability.
6. On 3 July 2025, during a scheduled conference call, it was confirmed that the Applicant was not dismissed. His Deputy profile was reactivated, and he collected his uniform.
7. As of this writing, the Applicant is active on Talice's casual roster and has been accepting and working shifts that align with his current licensing."
"• Casual employment does not guarantee a minimum number or regularity of shifts; By accepting casual employment, employee accept that we are offering you no firm advance commitment to ongoing work with an agreed pattern of work.
It is the employee's responsibility to maintain current qualifications required for the position. Employment is subject to and conditional upon you holding these licences / qualifications."
"• Casual guards returning after extended absence must reconfirm qualifications and clearances;
"• We worked very well till Auto Sparky accused me falsely... You still calls [sic] it a misconduct when there is no evidence provided!? Stop intimidating me please.
"My Working with Children application is still being done in Qld. We did the last interview in late June 2025. They do not agree with what was done by DHS, SA. I wrote to DHS and they said; they will review the application after the decision is made in Qld. I got those evidences."
"Why do you let me work in Epilogue Lounge and Newland Park when you know that the children go there?"
Working With Children Clearance / Negative Notice
Comment on Applicant's Statement Regarding Deputy Access and Casual Register
"• At no point was [the Applicant] terminated or told he couldn't work again;
By accepting casual employment, you accept that we are offering you no firm advance commitment to ongoing work with an agreed pattern of work..."
"We will offer you work from time to time and in accordance with the operational needs of the business.
We make or give no guarantee as to the number or regularity of hours.
By accepting casual employment, you accept that we are offering you no firm advance commitment to ongoing work with an agreed pattern of work."
"$32.49 (inclusive of 25% casual loading) less tax and excluding superannuation.
As a casual you are paid a 25% loading as compensation for annual leave, personal/carer's leave, community service leave, notice of termination and redundancy benefits, public holidays not worked and any other entitlements that do not apply to casual employees.
You agree that the 25% casual loading you receive may be set off against any arising statutory benefits that do not apply to a casual employee including (without limitation) annual leave, personal/carer's leave, community service leave, notice of termination and redundancy benefits, and public holidays not worked."
"It is difficult to see how this common law concept of repudiation has any work to do in relation to casual employees. At common law a casual employee's contract of employment ceases at the end of each engagement. An employer of a casual employee does not repudiate that contract when it fails to offer another shift."
"...The Applicant was a casual employee. The Agreement that governed her employment expressly provided that she was employed by the hour with no firm advance commitment to continuing and indefinite work according to an agreed pattern of work. Her contract of employment said that there was no guarantee of ongoing employment as the Applicant would only be required to work in accordance with the company's operational requirements. Each engagement was separate and the employment would come to an end at the conclusion of each engagement."
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Talice Security Services Pty Ltd [2025] FWC 2611