[2025] FWC 3940
General information, not legal advice.
Fair Work Commission
2025-12-24
Original judgment source is linked above.
s.394 - Application for unfair dismissal remedy
Section 387(a) - valid reason related to capacity or conduct
"This factor will only be a relevant consideration when an employee asks to have a support person present in a discussion relating to dismissal and the employer unreasonably refuses. It does not impose a positive obligation on employers to offer an employee the opportunity to have a support person present when they are considering dismissing them."[13]
Section 387(e) - warning about unsatisfactory performance
Section 387 (f) and (g) - size of the employer and access to Human Resource expertise
"It does not automatically follow from this conclusion that the dismissal was unfair. Rather, the Commission must proceed to consider the merits of the unfair dismissal application, taking into account the matters in s 387(a) to (h). It is well-established that redundancy is not a 'valid reason for dismissal related to capacity or conduct' (s 387(a)), because in a redundancy situation the employee's capacity and conduct are not at issue. Rather, the reason for redundancy is to be considered under s 387(h), 'any other matters the Commission considers relevant'. A dismissal that is not a genuine redundancy within the meaning of s 389 may nevertheless have occurred for a legitimate reason. That is the case here. The company did not need Mr Matvikov's position to be performed by anyone because of changes in the market and in the demand for work."
Step 1: Estimate the remuneration the applicant would have received, or have been likely to have received, if the employer had not terminated the employment (remuneration lost).
Step 3: Discount the remaining amount for contingencies.
Step 4: Calculate the impact of taxation to ensure that the employee receives the actual amount he or she would have received if they had continued in their employment.
"In determining the remuneration that the employee would have received, or would have been likely to receive, the Commission is required to give its attention to an actual state of facts... In each case, it is necessary for the Commission to address itself to the question whether, if the actual termination had not occurred, the employment would have been likely to continue, or would have been terminated at some time by another means. It is necessary for the Commission to make a finding of fact as to the likelihood of a further termination, in order to be able to assess the amount of remuneration the employee would have received, or would have been likely to receive, if there had not been the actual termination."
A Macpherson, Solicitor, of Crawford de Carné Lawyers, for the Respondent.
[1] Audio recording of Hearing at 17:57.
[3] P.98 of the DCB - Applicant's Witness Statement in Reply; 125 of the DCB - Witness Statement of Tihema Miller.
[4] Selvachandran v Peteron Plastics Pty Ltd [1995] IRCA 333; (1995) 62 IR 371, 373.
[6] Walton v Mermaid Dry Cleaners Pty Ltd [1996] IRCA 267; (1996) 142 ALR 681, 685.
[7] Kauri Taumaunu v United Personnel Traffic Pty Ltd [2025] FWCFB 181 at [33-34].
[9] See Mr Gabriel Augustin v AgUnity Pty Ltd [2025] FWC 1601.
[10] Bartlett v Ingleburn Bus Services Pty Ltd [2020] FWCFB 6429, [19]; Reseigh v Stegbar Pty Ltd [2020] FWCFB 533, [55].
[11] See Mr Gabriel Augustin v AgUnity Pty Ltd [2025] FWC 1601.
[12] P.9 of the DCB - Applicant's Submissions.
[13] Explanatory Memorandum, Fair Work Bill 2008 (Cth), [1542].
[14] P.120 of the DCB - Respondent's Submissions.
[15] Kioa v West [1985] HCA 81, [11] (per Gibbs CJ).
[16] Maswan v Escada Textilvertrieb T/A ESCADA [2011] FWA 4239 quoted in Dominic Jack v Urban Climb Pty Ltd T/A Urban Climb [2012] FWA 6916.
[18] ALH Group Pty Ltd t/a The Royal Exchange Hotel v Mulhall (2002) 117 IR 357, [51]. See also Smith v Moore Paragon Australia Ltd PR915674 (AIRCFB, Ross VP, Lacy SDP, Simmonds C, 21 March 2002), [92]; Edwards v Justice Giudice [1999] FCA 1836, [6]-[7].
[19] Audio Recording of Mr Kauri Taumaunu's Call with Mr Tihema Miller.
[20] Alan Matvikov v Dale Air Pty Ltd [2024] FWC 215 at [13].
[21] UES (Int'L) Pty Ltd v Harvey [2012] FWAFB 5241at [49].
[22] Leesa Zaicos v Tamworth Dementia Respite Service Inc [2025] FWCFB 231 at [39].
[23] Print R0235; [1998] AIRC 989; (1998) 88 IR 21. This approach was articulated in the context of the Fair Work Act 2009 (Cth) in Bowden v Ottrey Homes Cobram and District Retirement Villages Inc T/A Ottrey Lodge [2013] FWCFB 431, 229 IR 6 and Double N Equipment Hire Pty Ltd t/a A1 Distributions v Humphries [2016] FWCFB 7206 at [16] .
[24] See Ellawala v Australian Postal Corporation Print S5109 (AIRCFB, Ross VP, Williams SDP, Gay C, 17 April 2000) at [34].
[25] He v Lewin [2004] FCAFC 161, 137 FCR 266 at [58].
[26] He v Lewin [2004] FCAFC 161, 137 FCR 266.
[28] P.95 of the DCB - Applicant's Submissions in Reply.
[30] Wynn v NSW Insurance Ministerial Corporation [1995] HCA 53, 184 CLR 485; Ellawala v Australian Postal Corporation Print S5109 (AIRCFB, Ross VP, Williams SDP, Gay C, 17 April 2000) at [43].
[31] Bowden v Ottrey Homes Cobram and District Retirement Villages Inc T/A Ottrey Lodge [2013] FWCFB 431, 229 IR 6 at [53].
[32] Double N Equipment Hire Pty Ltd t/a A1 Distributions v Humphries [2016] FWCFB 7206 at [17]; Smith v Moore Paragon Australia Ltd PR942856, [2004] AIRC 57, (2004) 130 IR 446 at [32].
[33] Wynn v NSW Insurance Ministerial Corporation [1995] HCA 53, 184 CLR 485; Ellawala v Australian Postal Corporation Print S5109 (AIRCFB, Ross VP, Williams SDP, Gay C, 17 April 2000) at [43].
Printed by authority of the Commonwealth Government Printer
Mr Kauri Taumaunu
United Personnel Traffic Pty Ltd [2025] FWC 3940
(1995) 62 IR 371
(1996) 142 ALR 681
(2002) 117 IR 357
(1998) 88 IR 21
(2004) 130 IR 446