[2025] FWC 1336
General information, not legal advice.
Fair Work Commission
2025-05-14
Original judgment source is linked above.
[2025] FWC 1336 [Note: An appeal pursuant to s.604 (C2025/5118) was lodged against this decision.]
s.394 - Application for unfair dismissal remedy
Application for an unfair dismissal remedy - jurisdictional objections - Small Business Fair Dismissal Code and genuine redundancy - failure to comply with consultation obligations - dismissal unfair - compensation ordered.
I would like to write to you to confirm that your employment with Orientile Pty Ltd was terminated on 28 February 2025. The notice was originally given verbally to your face on 28 Feb 2025 and is confirmed in the email sent to you on 4 March 2025.
Pls do not hesitate to contact me if require other written documents regarding the termination of your employment.
(1) A person's dismissal was a case of genuine redundancy if:
(a) the person's employer no longer required the person's job to be performed by anyone because of changes in the operational requirements of the employer's enterprise; and
(b) the employer has complied with any obligation in a modern award or enterprise agreement that applied to the employment to consult about the redundancy.
(2) A person's dismissal was not a case of genuine redundancy if it would have been reasonable in all the circumstances for the person to be redeployed within:
(b) the enterprise of an associated entity of the employer."
30.1 If an employer makes a definite decision to make major changes in production, program, organisation, structure or technology that are likely to have significant effects on employees, the employer must:
(a) give notice of the changes to all employees who may be affected by them and their representatives (if any); and
(b) discuss with affected employees and their representatives (if any):
(iii) measures to avoid or reduce the adverse effects of the changes on employees; and
(c) commence discussions as soon as practicable after a definite decision has been made.
30.2 For the purposes of the discussion under clause 30.1(b) , the employer must give in writing to the affected employees and their representatives (if any) all relevant information about the changes including:
(c) any other matters likely to affect employees.
30.3 Clause 30.2 does not require an employer to disclose any confidential information if its disclosure would be contrary to the employer's interests.
30.4 The employer must promptly consider any matters raised by the employees or their representatives about the changes in the course of the discussion under clause 30.1(b) .
30.5 In clause 30 significant effects , on employees, includes any of the following:
(b) major changes in the composition, operation or size of the employer's workforce or in the skills required; or
(c) loss of, or reduction in, job or promotion opportunities; or
(f) the need for employees to be retrained or transferred to other work or locations; or
30.6 Where this award makes provision for alteration of any of the matters defined at clause 30.5 , such alteration is taken not to have significant effect.
Section 387(a) - valid reason related to capacity or conduct
Section 387(e) - warning about unsatisfactory performance
Section 387(f)&(g) - size of enterprise and dedicated human resource management specialists
a) The speed with which Mr Gao moved on the morning of 28 February 2025 from his decision that the business needed to make cost savings by retrenching one of its sales representatives to informing Mr Zhang that he was to be dismissed. These circumstances indicate a lack of consideration for Mr Zhang's circumstances and the consequences of the dismissal.
b) The fact that there were no conduct, capacity, or performance issues justifying Mr Zhang's selection for retrenchment.
c) Mr Zhang's long service. He commenced employment almost 15 years ago when the business was starting up. He worked alongside Mr Gao and played an important role in the growth of the business.
d) Mr Zhang was one of three sales representatives employed at the time of the dismissal. As there was no consultation Ms Gao did not canvass with the other sales representatives their willingness to leave the business which would have allowed Mr Zhang to remain employed.
e) The failure of Mr Gao to engage in a consultation process in which he involved the other sales representatives also meant that there was no opportunity to explore other options, such as job sharing, voluntary redundancy, additional termination pay, or the development of agreed criteria for selection for retrenchment.
f) Mr Gao paid Mr Zhang only his legal entitlements on termination. He was unwilling to entertain any additional payment in recognition of Mr Zhang's long and loyal service. Making some additional payment would have reduced the adverse impact of the redundancy.
g) The adverse impact of the dismissal on Mr Zhang and his personal financial circumstances.
h) Mr Gao's had formed the view that the business could not afford to keep employing three sales representatives and so someone had to lose their job.
Conclusion - harsh, unjust and/or unreasonable dismissal
Remuneration Mr Zhang would have received, or would have been likely to receive, if she had not been dismissed (s 392(2)(c))
Remuneration earned (s 392(2)(e)) and income reasonably likely to be earned (s 392(2)(f))

[1] Groszek v Toyvision International Pty Ltd [2015] FWC 697 at [37]; Harrison v Queensland University of Technology [2010] FWA 8789 at [6]; Nalevansky v Thought Equity Motion Inc. [2010] FWA 3707; Iannello v Motor Solutions Australia Pty Ltd [2010] FWA 3125
[2] UES (Int'l) Pty Ltd v Harvey [2012] FWAFB 5241 (UES) at [42]; Ventyx Pty Ltd v Murray [2014] FWCFB 2143 (Ventyx) at [142]
[3] Kable v Bozelle, Michael Keith T/A Matilda Greenbank [2015] FWCFB 3512 at [17]
[5] Tabro Meat Pty Ltd v Heffernan [2011] FWAFB 1080; Read v Golden Square Child Care Centre [2013] FWCFB 762; Bowden v Ottrey Homes Cobram [2013] FWCFB 431
[6] Double N Equipment Hire Pty Ltd v Humphries [2016] FWCFB 7206 at [16]- [17]
[7] Enhance Systems Pty Ltd v Cox [2001] AIRC 1138 (Williams SDP, Acton SDP, Gay C, 31 October 2001) at [39]
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Orientile Pty Ltd [2025] FWC 1336
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