Q165 All right, so you're saying that you got into a debt with a person, is that right?
A165 Yeah.
Q166 And - whereabouts did this person live?
A166 In ...(indistinct)... lives around the corner from mine. (around the corner from my house).
Q167 Do you know whose address?
A167 Yeah, thirty eight, Valentine---
Q168 Valentine? Balentine.
A168 Valentine, yeah.
Q169 Yep?
A169 Norwood(?), I don't know the postcode, 'cause I'm down the corner from him, it is West Derby though.
Q170 West Derby
A170 West Derby or (Tuebrook)...(indistinct)...it's like a ...(indistinct)... (round the corner).
Q171 Okay, and what's this person's name?
A171 Lee HODGE.
Q172 What is it?
A172 Lee HODGE.
Q173 Lee HODGE, all right and tell me what you know about Lee HODGE?
A173 Well he sells drugs, any night(?) of the week.
Q174 How do you know that?
Q175 'Cause I've seen him ... (indistinct)... (do it) they cost ... (indistinct)... (posh cars) and I spoke to him. Just things like, ...(indistinct)... obviously because he's doing this, but he's doing this.
A175 Is he a friend of yours? He's not a friend, I used to knock about with a lad, that used to deal with him. I had to borrow money off them and then, yeah, led to this.
Q176 All right, how much money did you borrow of him?
A176 A thousand quid.
Q177 A thousand dollars?
A177 Yeah.
Q178 All right, and how long have you known Lee for?
A178 Oh, three years.
Q179 Three years. All right, so tell me what discussions took place before you actually did what you did
A179 Oh, he phoned me all one morning, so I had said eh to - I've got a way out of the way and it's money off - so pay it off.
Q180 A thousand dollars?
A180 I said I would think about it ... (indistinct)... (I was really terrified) I think about it ... (indistinct)... which I really told you I was really, you know, terrified just before and then I switched me phone off for two days because he was - they usually - I couldn't bear thinking of doing it and then he knocked - knocked at me house and he started to - he spoke to me and all that and then I opened the door I ended up and said 'Oh, yeah, I'll do it.' And then he took me down to it - yeah his house and booked the tickets on the computer while I was there.
Q181 Okay, we'll just stop you there. When you say he'd asked you to do something, tell us what - what has he asked you to do?
A181 To, he knows someone who lives over here who he said, a few - a few people have done it for him, four people have done it before, a few people. And they've not been caught, and he knows someone over here but I think if I go back, he'd be standing up at - he'd be standing outside the airport with the - with your me name on the thing waiting for me.
Q182 All right, what did he want you to bring over here?
A182 Drugs, Ecstasy and Cocaine." (Emphasis added).