[2025] FWC 1305
General information, not legal advice.
Fair Work Commission
2025-06-11
Original judgment source is linked above.
The applicant perceived, and in my view correctly perceived, that there was a considerable change in the nature of the new position he was being offered. He was, in effect, to become a senior, specialist claims clerk, whose considerable experience and expertise might be available to other people outside his team, dealing with claims, but it would be at the option of those other people, to consult him or not. Continuing to call him a Claims Manager did not make him one.
[44] His Honour also referred with approval (subject to a gloss) to the following observation by the learned authors of the Law of Employment (3rd Edition, Law Book Company 1990), Macken, McCarry and Sappideen (at p 188):
In the absence of a contract allowing it, the employer cannot force changes [of jobs or regrading] on an employee. An attempt to do so will involve the employer in breach of contract if the [employee] presses her or his requirements....
[45] The gloss which his Honour put on the above statement is that:
..... this must not be taken to propound undesirable inflexibility: there must be some reasonable give and take. In a rapidly changing world, it would be uncommon for the parties to a contract of employment to envisage no change in aspects of the job. But employers' perceptions as to what are the important aspects of jobs they have promised employees and later wish to change may not coincide with the perceptions of the employees, nor of independent observers, such as courts to which the employees might, in due course repair. Serious, non-consensual intrusions upon the status or responsibilities, as well as upon the remuneration, attaching to a job may well be held to amount to a repudiation of the contract of employment, and their actuality will not be denied merely by the retention of the job's title. That is the drift and the tenor of cases such as Beck v Darling Downs Institute of Advanced Education (unreported, Supreme Court of Queensland, No 3865 of 1988, Dowsett J, 20 April 1990) and Quinn v Jack Chia (Australia ) Ltd [1992] VicRp 37; (1991) 43 IR 91.
[46] I respectfully adopt his Honour's approval of the passage from Macken, McCarry and Sappideen and the gloss which his Honour put on it.
[85] I am satisfied that the mega deal position constituted a substantial diminution in status and responsibility when compared to the plaintiff's former VP and GM role. In his former role Mr Whittaker had been responsible for a profit and loss account and running one of the three business units within Unysis' Asia Pacific operation. He managed a budget and had eight direct reports. The plaintiff was then unilaterally removed from that position and offered a senior specialist role in which he would be responsible for negotiating and closing 'mega deals'. No specific budget or resources had been allocated to the proposed role. He would have only one direct report and no responsibility for the management of a business unit or a profit and loss account.
[86] I am satisfied that the removal of the plaintiff from the VP and GM position and the offer of the mega deal position constituted a repudiation of his contract of employment. By its actions, Unysis evinced a plain intention not to be bound by the existing contract.**
[32] Contrary to Deputy President Saunders' construction, we consider that s.386(1) exclusively defines the circumstances which give rise to a person being 'dismissed' by an employer for the purposes of Part 3-2 the FW Act. It follows that a person who has been demoted in employment, but who remains in the employ of the employer, has only been 'dismissed' if the person's employment has been terminated on the employer's initiative within the meaning of s.386(1)(a) of the FW Act
[45] We agree with the proposition that the expression 'employment ... has been terminated' in s.386(1)(a) means termination of the employment relationship and/or termination of the contract of employment. Contrary to the Deputy President's view at first instance, on this construction, unless the circumstances in s.386(2)(c) apply, an employee may be dismissed within the terms of s.386(1)(a) if the employer has repudiated the employee's contract of employment by demoting the employee and the employee has accepted that repudiation but has continued to be employed by the employer under a new employment contract.
Roles which the Applicants were employed in prior to the redundancy
I was at the time working 11 hour shifts, attending to vehicles broken down and in need of assistance, if I was unable to assist in getting the vehicle back on the road, a tow truck would be called and the vehicle would be taken to a workshop to be repaired. No workshop duties would be performed by me. My role included weekend work, night shifts and public holidays.
Differences in duties and remuneration in new role
- Your role as a Roadside Technician being redundant as of 9 December 2024, means it will it be filled by anyone in Madill Motor Group.
[9] The respondent offered each affected employee an alternative role at the same hourly rate although there was some change to their duties and the nature of the work.
[10] There was no forced transfer to lower paid duties.
PERFORMANCE STANDARDS FOR THIS POSITION ARE MET WHEN:
I was told verbally the location was in there [sic] Gympie Dealership (95.5km away), and the pay rate of $35.00 per hour, on a 38hr week in the warranty department of the workshop. I asked if there was a company car or Fuel card that comes with this roll [sic] and was advised I would have to use my own car, fuel and time to get to and from work. At the present time I do roughly 99km per fortnight traveling 33km to my current workplace to pick up the RACQ Patrol vehicle for my shifts (42hrs a week). I believe that this is not a reasonable offer of (redeployment) due to the Reduced hrs, cost of fuel, where [sic] and tare [sic] on my personal vehicle and time to get to and from work. I have also heard from co workers that we would be required to supply our own tools suitable for a modern workshop that could potentially cost $3000 - $5000.
On my calculations based on last financial years Gross pay, my salary will be $24442.12 less than last financial year, if you include the fuel I will use, I will be $36360.52 out of pocket compared to last financial year, this also doesn't include Ware [sic] and tear of my personal vehicle and servicing costs. [16]
If I accepted the roll [sic] offered, I would have been driving my personal Vehicle to gympie (99km from home) or Noosa (70km from Home) and back every day at my cost. In my final face to face meeting, I was advised I would be based in gympie. This would be approximately 10 hrs of driving per week, 990km per week, 150ltr fuel costing me around $300 per week, less hours per week and no bonus scheme or overtime. Overall worse off financially and not comparable, Also start a job in an environment I have not been in for 25years.[17]
PERFORMANCE STANDARDS FOR THIS POSITION ARE MET WHEN:
1.The offer is not of a similar role or comparative employment.
2. The type of work you propose is vastly different and more complex.
3. The extra financial costs to me would be considerable. My work hours would be reduced and there is no battery sales bonus, along with the increased time and costs of travel to and from the location of employment and the wear and tear on my vehicle, make it not viable.
4. I would also be required to supply my own tools and keep them updated when needed.
5. As I have not worked in a workshop situation for over 30 years, it would be difficult to achieve the 'minimum of 95% productivity with an efficiency of 95%' level of competency as stated in your job description, therefore, I feel that job security would be at risk.
1/ Offer is not of comparable or similar employment to what I am currently doing for Madills now.
I have not been in a workshop environment for over 13 years employed as a Motor technician in any automotive repair industry.
For me to be employed in a workshop as a Motor Technician, I would not be able to meet your requirements listed on your proposed job description
issued to me by Madills. The levels of competency that would have to be met in a workshop will be potentially
difficult to achieve, due to the fact I have not been involved
This type of work that you propose is very different and more complex than what roadside assistance duties involve.
Might I add that I have been working for the RACQ for 40 years or more involved in roadside assistance and
2/ Financially your job offer of $35hr rate falls a long way short of what I am currently earning.
To start with I would need to buy more tools and tool boxes (etc) to carry out workshop tasks .As you can appreciate the scope of tools needed to do RACQ roadside is considerably less
I would not be working as many hours and a battery bonus which made up our salary will be lost in income each year which is a considerable amount.
I now have to travel 86 km every day if I was to work in Noosa, or 160km if I was to commence work in Gympie.
Simon informed me that the majority of work is in Gympie .
So as you can see I only travel 40km once a fortnight in my own vehicle to commence work when working for Madills as a RACQ roadside assistant.
The position that Madills is offering me is going to severely impact my life as well as income.
The Ability of the Respondent to direct the Applicants to undertake new duties
The terms of the Contract may be varied from time to time by mutual agreement in writing between the parties.
4.1 You are employed on a full time basis in the position described at Item 3 of the Schedule [Roadside Technician]
4.2 You may be required to perform other tasks from time to time, as reasonably requested by the Employer.
Conclusion on whether the Applicants were terminated within the meaning of s.119(1) of the Act?
7.1 The Employer's current primary business location is described In Item 6 of the Schedule [Noosa and Maroochydore],
7.2 You will be required to work at this location, unless otherwise reasonably requested by the Employer.
7.3 You may also be required to travel as reasonably necessary for the performance of your duties.
[158] The Respondent submits that the Deputy President was correct to find that a significant reduction in remuneration or duties is one which is important, or notable, or of consequence, having regard to its context and intensity. The purpose of the adjective "significant" is to exclude impacts that are properly seen as minor or unlikely.
[159] The Respondent submits that whether a reduction in remuneration or duties is "significant" is an objective test, having regard to all the relevant circumstances.
[160] The Respondent contends that the demotion of Mr James resulted in NSW Trains reducing his remuneration by almost 10%. As noted in the Decision (at [33]), there are other flow on effects, including a decrease to the value of Mr James' accrued annual leave entitlements, accrued long service leave entitlements, superannuation benefits and, importantly and relevantly, Mr James' redundancy pay benefits. It is submitted that on no view can such a reduction in remuneration be regarded as minor.
[161] We agree that the expression "significant reduction [in remuneration or duties]" takes its ordinary meaning as being a reduction that is "important; of consequence". Previous AIRC and Commission decisions give an indication of the magnitude of a reduction that may constitute a significant reduction. We also agree that whether a reduction in remuneration or duties is "significant" is an objective test, having regard to all the circumstances.
[162] While we do not need to decide this point in view of our overall conclusion that Mr James' demotion does not constitute a dismissal within the meaning of s 386(1)(a), we are not satisfied that the Appellant has established a significant error of fact in relation to the Deputy President's finding of a significant reduction in remuneration. Accordingly, this appeal ground is dismissed.
Whether consultation requirements under clause 35 were met
35.1 If an employer makes a definite decision to make major changes in production, program, organisation, structure or technology that are likely to have significant effects on employees, the employer must:
(a) give notice of the changes to all employees who may be affected by them and their representatives (if any); and
(b) discuss with affected employees and their representatives (if any):
(iii) measures to avoid or reduce the adverse effects of the changes on
(c) commence discussions as soon as practicable after a definite decision has been made.
35.2 For the purposes of the discussion under clause 35.1(b), the employer must give in writing to the affected employees and their representatives (if any) all relevant information about the changes including:
(c) any other matters likely to affect employees.
35.3 Clause 35.2 does not require an employer to disclose any confidential information if its disclosure would be contrary to the employer's interests.
35.4 The employer must promptly consider any matters raised by the employees or their representatives about the changes in the course of the discussion under clause 35.1(b).
35.5 In clause 35 significant effects, on employees, includes any of the following:
(b) major changes in the composition, operation or size of the employer's workforce or in the skills required; or
(c) loss of, or reduction in, job or promotion opportunities; or
(f) the need for employees to be retrained or transferred to other work or locations; or
35.6 Where this award makes provision for alteration of any of the matters defined at clause 35.5, such alteration is taken not to have significant effect.
In any event, there is nothing unusual about major changes in a business occurring in response to a decision made by an external client affecting the demand for the business' services; this may occur in a range of industry contexts, not just the labour hire industry, and it has never been taken to mean so far as we are aware that the major change has occurred absent any decision being taken by the business.[20]
Whilst the change at the AP2 site arose from SA's decision to cease its contract with the Respondent, the decision to make any change, and the scope of the change to be made, was squarely the prerogative of the Respondent. In other words, the changes made at the AP2 site were determined by the Respondent. In my view, the fact that any change to the Respondent's operations flowed from the loss of a contract with a third party does not alter the fact that any decision to make changes at the Respondent's workplace (i.e. at the AP2 site), flowing from the loss of the SA contract, was a decision of the Respondent.[21]
To date, I have not received any official notification in writing advising me of the cessation of RACQ roadside assistance activities with Madill Motor Group. A phone call does not meet your requirements as an employer to advise staff of changes to their contracted employment, proposed date of final operations, or options regarding termination, redeployment offers and redundancy.
I have accommodated Madill Motor Group in their request for a meeting to discuss the situation, at which, no written confirmation of any changes to contract or employment conditions/locations was supplied. The only written information I have received is a job description of a proposed rote within the organisation, with no commencement date, no written notice of payrate, and no notice of when RACQ duties will cease. Again, verbal information is not sufficient in this situation.
We understand this major change for our business has created uncertainty and concerns for some of you affected by the ending of our RACQ contract.
During Simon Guthrie's conversation with you on 28 October, 2024, he suggested it would be best for you to meet with Club Assist and discuss their opportunities being offered to you and then to contact me to arrange a suitable day and time to come back to us individually to discuss options available for you, should you prefer to stay within our employ.
In fact, the modern award which covers your terms and conditions of employment being the Vehicle Repair Services and Retail Award 2020 requires us to meet with you about the possible impact of this major change, and not just correspond in writing.
We encourage you to come and meet with us about this during days when you are working. It is not appropriate for us to continue to correspond about this change. If there are existing documents you require such as your employment contract and payslips, then please ask and you will be sent copies.
We would really appreciate the opportunity to sit down with you individually to discuss roles that would be suited to your skill set within the business and the location of those roles, as did Club Assist. Obviously as each person's skills, qualifications and experience are unique, there will be slightly different roles which are suited to each employee. We are concerned that many of you have not met with us since we first informed you of this major change on 28/10/24.
We can confirm our assurances that the roles we have for you will be on a comparable pay rate and will be a similar role. Please understand, while your current position as a Roadside Assistance Technician will be redundant within our business, your employment with us will not be when our contract with RACQ finishes. This means your employment will not end because of redundancy.
We again ask you to meet with us individually to discuss positions we have available as your employment will continue should you not tender your resignation when you choose to take up one of the positions with Club Assist.
We understand you may have concerns if you're required to give 4 or 3 week's notice but are happy to amend that to 2 week's notice required so you can make your decision by 25 November, 2024.
We look forward to meeting with you soon and have tentatively set aside 20, 21 & 22 November at this stage to discuss the roles we have. Lucas will confirm suitable times during your shift on one of those days to come to Noosa to meet with us, once he returns on the 18th. Please confirm your attendance via email, should you choose to attend, once you have a day and time set aside with Lucas, so that we know to expect you.
NOTE: Redundancy pay is provided for in the NES. See sections 119 to 123 of the Act.
39.1 Transfer to lower paid duties on redundancy
(a) Clause 39.1 applies if, because of redundancy, an employee is transferred to new duties to which a lower ordinary rate of pay applies.
(i) give the employee notice of the transfer of at least the same length as the employee would be entitled to under section 117 of the Act as if it were a notice of termination given by the employer; or
(ii) transfer the employee to the new duties without giving notice of transfer or before the expiry of a notice of transfer, provided that the employer pays the employee as set out in clause 39.1(c).
(c) If the employer acts as mentioned in clause 39.1(b)(ii), the employee is entitled
to a payment of an amount equal to the difference between the ordinary rate of pay of the employee (inclusive of all-purpose allowances, shift rates and penalty rates applicable to ordinary hours) for the hours of work the employee would have worked in the first role, and the ordinary rate of pay (also inclusive of all-purpose allowances, shift rates and penalty rates applicable to ordinary hours) of the employee in the second role for the period for which notice was not given.
39.2 Employee leaving during redundancy notice period
(a) An employee given notice of termination in circumstances of redundancy may terminate their employment during the minimum period of notice prescribed by section 117(3) of the Act.
(b) The employee is entitled to receive the benefits and payments they would have
received under clause 39 or under sections 119 to 123 of the Act had they remained in employment until the expiry of the notice.
(c) However, the employee is not entitled to be paid for any part of the period of notice remaining after the employee ceased to be employed.
(a) Where an employer has given notice of termination to an employee in circumstances of redundancy, the employee must be allowed time off without loss of pay of up to one day each week of the minimum period of notice prescribed by section 117(3) of the Act for the purpose of seeking other employment.
(b) If an employee is allowed time off without loss of pay of more than one day
under clause 39.3(a), the employee must, at the request of the employer, produce proof of attendance at an interview.
(c) A statutory declaration is sufficient for the purpose of clause 39.3(b).
(d) An employee who fails to produce proof when required under clause 39.3(b) is not entitled to be paid for the time off.
(e) This entitlement applies instead of clause 38.2.
On a proper construction of the consultation obligations imposed by clause 35 and clause 39 of the MA000089 Vehicle Repair, Services and Retail Award 2020, did the employer meet these obligations in relation to redundancies of the affected employees? Yes
[1] The Respondent's name was amended to "Madill No 1 Pty. Ltd" under s.586(a) of the Fair Work Act to reflect the ASIC records and for consistency across all the applications
[2] Letters from the Respondent to the Applicants dated 26 November 2-24
[3] Email from Mr Lettres to Ms Brown dated 1 November 2024
[7] [1984] CthArbRp 284; (1984) 8 IR 34 at 73
[12] Benjamin Lettres reply submissions [7] to [11]
[15] [2024] FWC 981 at [121]
[16] Mr Lettres initial submissions letter dated 22 November 2024
[17] Mr Lettres Reply Submissions [11]
[20] WorkPac Mining Pty Ltd v Botiki & Ors [2021] FWCFB 3325 at [27].
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(1991) 43 IR 91
(1984) 8 IR 34
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