Well, let's start again. You made an application to dismiss the prosecution for want of prosecution, amongst other things, on the basis of a failure to disclose? --- That's right.
The alleged failure to disclose was the failure to disclose the digiboard material? --- That's right.
Now, was that the reason why you maintained that you had not received the digiboard material? --- So are you asking me whether or not I maintained I hadn't received the digiboard material deliberately so as to strengthen or create a position whereby the charges against my client would be dismissed for want of prosecution? Is that what you're asking me?
That's what I'm asking you. Is that what you were doing? --- Absolutely not and it is very offensive. I understand you're just doing your job, Mr Vandongen, but gosh. No point, really, in being a lawyer if I was of that mind I can tell you.
Because you knew you'd been successful previously, hadn't you, in getting matters dismissed for want of prosecution on the basis of nondisclosure? - Well, I can at the moment I can only recall one. I can't recall any more. There might have been another one - I can only recall one and I'm sorry, the name of that client at the moment escapes me, but I certainly could check my records at my office to establish that name.
You knew there was a basis upon which a prosecution could be dismissed without there being a hearing, didn't you? --- Well, of course. Any competent defence counsel would know that.
You took advantage of that, didn't you? --- What do you mean by did I take advantage of it?
Well, you told the court that you had not received the digiboard material didn't you? --- Yes, because that was the truth.
I suggest to you that it wasn't the truth, that you had in fact received it on a number of occasions? --- I would never, ever say to the court that I hadn't received something if I had. There is just no way. No way. I've never done it, and I never will.
So you say, do you, that you were making a point about the nondisclosure of the digiboards, and in particular colour digiboards because it was an important part of the case against your client that you wished to challenge? --- Those were my instructions at the time, that's right. My client was not willing to concede that he had been at that location.
Your client gave a video record of interview didn't he? --- Yes, he did.
Did he make admissions in the video record of interview? --- He made some admissions.
When you appeared before Magistrate Calder on 6 July 2009, at page 72, Magistrate Calder asked you directly for the first time, I'd suggest to you, that anyone did, asked you directly about whether there was going to be an objection or challenge to the identification evidence, didn't he? --- That's correct.
You told him on page 72, 'Why yes, your Honour. Firstly, I don't understand its relevance, really, because of the admissions made by my client in his video record of interview,' didn't you? --- That's right.
So what you're telling his Honour was that the digiboard material you failed to see the relevance of in the case against [APC], didn't you? --- That's because my client had changed his instructions to me because he was becoming increasingly agitated about his incarceration period being delayed because of these outstanding charges.
You're telling the magistrates that the digiboards, the identification procedure was irrelevant because your client had made admissions in his video record of interview, didn't you? --- That was also because my client had changed his instructions to me.
Regardless of your client's instructions, you told the Magistrate that it was not relevant not relevant because of the admissions made by your client in his video record of interview, didn't you? --- That was in the context of my client having changed his instructions to me, Mr Vandongen.
On page 72, at the bottom of that interchange you were offered the opportunity to look at the digiboard over lunchtime and you said, 'I have to look over it at lunchtime, but given that my client admits that he was present at the scene, it's just he disputes what occurred so I don't even think it's necessary to tender that evidence'. ...
Your client admitted it in the video record of interview. What difference could your client's instructions have made? --- Because I had previously got instructions from my client as to his state of stupefaction at the time of that video interview or that he wasn't in a fit state for various reasons. So I had anticipated making application to exclude the video record of interview, but that changed as my client's instructions ---
You never made an application to exclude the video, did you? --- Because my client's instructions changed.
Despite the matter going on for a number of months, you never made that application or even hinted at making the application? --- Because the hearings didn't proceed. The first one got adjourned in [sic] 19 February because of lack of full disclosure. The second hearing didn't proceed because, again it wasn't again lack of disclosure, it was the [victim]'s issue and his medical unfitness. So the opportunity had not yet arisen. They don't have voir dires in the Magistrates Court to decide these admissibility issues before hearing. It's done at the hearing.
You were required under the Criminal Procedure Act to give the prosecution at that stage 14 days notice of any objections to evidence, weren't you? --- That's never done.
You were required as a matter of law to give 14 days notice weren't you? ... Yes, I probably was.
And you did not, did you? --- No, I did not.
Because there was never going to be any objection? --- No that's not true. The instructions I had from my client changed, as instructions from clients frequently do. They advise you that they didn't know what they were talking about in the interview and so forth, and then later on they concede that they did know what they were talking about. (T:60.563.3, 17.11.11)