Could the applicants' claimed native title rights be affected by the Turrbal people's application?
7 The resolution of this first issue essentially depends upon whether the evidence in support of this application discloses any overlap between the lands and waters in relation to which the applicants claim to hold native title rights and interests; and the claim area in the Turrbal People's application.
8 Before going to that evidence, it is necessary to identify the approach I consider should be taken in assessing it. On this aspect, I respectfully agree with the approach taken by Kiefel J in Wakka Wakka People #2 v State of Queensland [2005] FCA 1578 when dealing with an application for joinder under s 84(5), as follows (at [6]):
It is true, as Ms O'Brien appearing pro bono for Mr Bellear points out, that it is not for the Court on the hearing of this application to determine whether Mr Bellear's assertion is correct. Nevertheless, he has to show a prima facie case in relation to an interest, in the sense referred to in the Arakwal People's case.
9 In this context, I take the expression "prima facie" to mean at first sight without further investigation: see North Ganalanja Aboriginal Corporation v State of Queensland (1996) 185 CLR 595 at 615-6.
10 Accordingly, in considering the applicants' evidence, I do not consider I should take into account the countering affidavit evidence from Ms Barambah, or the interrelated submissions of Mr Blackshield, on behalf of the Turrbal People. Both of them have disputed many of the factual assertions made by the applicants in their evidence, particularly those going to the location of the lands and waters of the Turrbal and Yugarapul People. Essentially, this evidence and these submissions assert that the northern boundary of the Yugarapul People's lands and waters is farther south of the Brisbane River thereby creating no overlap with the Turrbal People's claim area. If I were to entertain these factual disputes, I would be placed in the paradoxical position of having to determine one of the factual issues in dispute in the substantive proceedings for the purposes of determining whether or not the applicants should be joined as respondents to contest that very factual issue.
11 Turning then to the applicants' evidence. As I have already mentioned, the applicants claim to hold native title rights and interests as members of the Yugarapul People. In their affidavits, Ms James and Ms Sandy claim that the lands and waters of the Yugarapul People are located in south-east Queensland and extend from the McPherson Range in the south, to the Brisbane River in the north. Ms James has annexed a map (Annexure B2) to her affidavit, which she describes in the affidavit as "Map of YUgarapul, Yugara & Yugambeh People". The external boundary of the land and waters of the Yugarapul People as shown on this map has been shown as a dark blue line on the map (marked "A") annexed to these reasons.
12 Ms James claims elsewhere in her affidavit that: "The determination area is the overlapping areas south of the Brisbane River in Annexure B2 - YUgarapul, Yugara & Yugambeh People map." This overlap area is the green shaded area south of the dark blue line, which itself follows the Brisbane River, on the annexed map "A".
13 Ms Sandy makes almost identical claims in her affidavit, although the map which she refers to in her affidavit (described as Annexure B) is not annexed to the copy of her affidavit filed with the Court.
14 Mr Sandy's affidavit, which was filed about six weeks later, somewhat complicates the issue. He appears to put the northern boundary of the Yugarapul People's land north of the Brisbane River. He has done that by attaching a map to his affidavit (Annexure B1), which is entitled "Places/areas of interest for Bell, Bonner and Sandy families". That map shows a dotted line extending from a point near the Brisbane Airport, which is just north of the Brisbane River, in a westerly direction to an area north of Mt Coot-tha, which is much farther north of the Brisbane River. From that point, there is a gap in the dotted line until it resumes further west at a point north of a location called "Logan Camp". It then extends in a north-westerly direction towards Mount Esk and then in a south-westerly direction towards Ravensbourne. In the area that falls generally south of this dotted line, there is a number of locations circled. They include Coominya, Lowood, Ipswich, Logan, Beaudesert and Boonah. All of these locations are south of the Brisbane River.
15 In his affidavit, Mr Sandy claims that his ancestors "camped a lot around Brisbane … at the Showgrounds too … they lived there for sometime too." If he is there referring to the Brisbane Exhibition Grounds, they are, of course, located north of the Brisbane River. However, he also refers to a number of areas south of the Brisbane River, including Bulimba Creek, Minnippi Parklands and Yugarapul Park. These all fall within the green shaded overlap area shown on the annexed map "A" referred to above (at [12]). In a later paragraph of his affidavit, Mr Sandy refers to an annexure (Annexure B) to his affidavit. That annexure is said to show "the area defined by the Yugarapul, Yugara and Yugambeh People …". However, as with Ms Sandy's affidavit, this map is not annexed to the copy of his affidavit filed with the Court.
16 While there appears to be an inconsistency between the evidence of Ms James and Ms Sandy, on the one hand, and Mr Sandy, on the other hand, as to where the northern boundary of the Yugarapul People's lands and waters is located, I consider this evidence does provide prima facie evidence of the existence of an area of overlap - the green shaded area south of the dark blue line/Brisbane River on the annexed map "A" - between the land and waters covered by the two sets of claims.
17 It follows that I consider the applicants have shown, at least on a prima facie basis, that the native title rights and interests they claim to hold as members of the Yugarapul People could be affected by the determination of the Turrbal People's application because a part of the Turrbal People's claim area appears to overlap those lands and waters.