[2025] NSWCATAD 277
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NCAT Administrative and Equal Opportunity
2025-11-12
Emeritus Prof P, Foreman AM
Original judgment source is linked above.
4 Safety, welfare and well-being of children to be paramount consideration
The safety, welfare and well-being of children and, in particular, protecting them from child abuse, is the paramount consideration in the operation of this Act.
17 Interim bars
(1) The Children's Guardian may, at any time after receiving an application for a working with children check clearance or commencing an assessment of an applicant for or holder of a clearance, determine that the applicant or holder is subject to an interim bar, being a bar on the applicant or holder doing any of the following -
(a) engaging in child-related work,
(b) residing on the same property as an authorised carer,
(c) residing on a property where a family day care service is provided.
(2) The Children's Guardian may make a determination under this section if it is of the opinion that it is likely that there is a risk to the safety of children if the applicant or holder engages in child-related work or resides on a property referred to in subsection (1)(b) or (c) pending the determination of the application or assessment.
(3) The Children's Guardian must as soon as practicable after determining that an applicant or holder is subject to an interim bar, give written notice of that determination to the applicant or holder and to each person that the Children's Guardian reasonably believes to be a notifiable person in relation to the applicant or holder.
(4) An interim bar ceases to have effect -
(a) on notification in writing by the Children's Guardian to the applicant or holder that the interim bar is revoked, or
(b) in the case of an applicant for a clearance, if the applicant is granted or refused a clearance, or
(c) 12 months after the interim bar takes effect,
whichever occurs first.
30 Determination of applications and other matters
(1) The Tribunal must consider the following in determining an application under this Part -
(a) the seriousness of the offences with respect to which the person is a disqualified person or any matters that caused a refusal of a clearance or imposition of an interim bar,
(b) the period of time since those offences or matters occurred and the conduct of the person since they occurred,
(c) the age of the person at the time the offences or matters occurred,
(d) the age of each victim of any relevant offence or conduct at the time they occurred and any matters relating to the vulnerability of the victim,
(e) the difference in age between the victim and the person and the relationship (if any) between the victim and the person,
(f) whether the person knew, or could reasonably have known, that the victim was a child,
(g) the person's present age,
(h) the seriousness of the person's criminal history and the conduct of the person since the matters occurred,
(i) the likelihood of any repetition by the person of the offences or conduct and the impact on children of any such repetition,
(i1) any order of a court or tribunal that is in force in relation to the person,
(j) any information given by the applicant in, or in relation to, the application,
(j1) any relevant information in relation to the person that was obtained in accordance with section 36A,
(k) any other matters that the Children's Guardian considers necessary.
It almost follows, from what I have just said, that one does not define risk as meaning minimal risk. One would in any case as Mr Singleton has submitted, exclude fanciful or theoretical risks, but what one is looking for is whether, in all the circumstances, there is a real and appreciable risk in the sense of a risk that is greater than the risk of any adult preying on a child. One, however, must link the word "risk" with the words that follow, namely, "to the safety of children".
52. Nowhere does the High Court [M & M [1998] HCA 68] say, or suggest, that every individual allegation is to be assessed as either "well founded" or "groundless". Nowhere does the High Court say, or suggest, that all allegations must be treated as falling into one or other of those categories. Indeed, it explicitly says the opposite. In those cases which do not fall into one or other of those categories the court or tribunal must decide whether the evidence is such as to justify a finding that there is a relevant risk.
53. In the context of the Child Protection Act this assessment will depend upon a number of things: among them, the seriousness of the allegations, the strength of any evidentiary support for the allegations, and the relevance of the conduct the subject of the allegations to the risk to the safety of children if a clearance is granted to the applicant.
54. The view I have expressed above that the proposition that a three-step process is required should be rejected is in accordance with what Beech-Jones J said in BKE. At [33] his Honour said:
"... Thus in such cases it may be that [the Tribunal] can be satisfied that an allegation of sexual abuse against an applicant is established. Equally, [the Tribunal] may be affirmatively satisfied that the relevant incident did not occur, in which case it can be put aside. However, in a context where the welfare of the child is paramount and the question being posed concerns the risk of harm to children, [the Tribunal] may not be satisfied that an allegation of abuse has been made out, but nevertheless conclude that the circumstances surrounding a particular incident or course of conduct means that there is a risk to a child or, more correctly, that the existence of a risk has not been disproven."
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57. ...The task of the Tribunal is, to expand on what Beech-Jones J said in BKE, to determine, even if it is unable to be satisfied one way or the other as to the truth of all or any of the allegations, whether, by reason of the possibility that the alleged conduct occurred, the applicant poses a risk to the safety of children. If so, the Tribunal must refuse to grant a clearance. Of course, in that process the Tribunal will give consideration to the strength of the evidence supporting the allegations and will, inevitably, reach conclusions about the truth or falsity of some. If it finds any allegation to be without foundation it will discard it from further consideration. If it is satisfied that the allegation is well founded, it will assign to it such weight as it sees fit, in the consideration (inter alia) of the circumstances listed in s 30. It is the allegations between those two extremes, those that are neither proved nor disproved, that the Tribunal must address in determining whether the applicant for a clearance poses a risk to children.
[Emphasis added].
Speaking of the risk of some future occurrence is just another way of expressing the chance of it happening. The concept of chance lies along a continuum, encompassing all outcomes which lie in the range between highly probable and remotely possible, assuming the polar extremes of certainty are ignored. ...At some point on the continuum the risk of such harm becomes so potent it cannot be tolerated: it is unacceptable.
...determining the issue of risk essentially involves applying a risk matrix, whereby it is necessary to assess the potential seriousness of the harm in the context of the probability of its occurrence...
110. As to the degree of risk, the exercise involves an assessment of the likelihood of the apprehended harm occurring. It will usually involve a consideration of the past behaviour and conduct of the relevant adult. That may take the form of abuse of a physical, sexual, psychological or emotional nature. It will include abuse in its widest sense, and so including conduct such as manipulation, intimidation, threats, harassment or neglect. But it will also extend to consideration of conduct that might be described as grooming or poor boundary recognition (particularly in the context of relationships involving a degree of authority or power on the part of the adult). It will include other behaviour which might be indicative of a prurient interest in a child or children, or of an interest in other inappropriate sexual or violent behaviour. It will also include behaviour which might represent a less direct risk of harm to children, such as a dysfunctional or hazardous lifestyle, difficulties with the abuse of alcohol or drugs, or adherence to social attitudes or beliefs which conflict with broader community norms.
111. As mentioned later in these reasons, past conduct need not be proven to any particular standard for it to be relevant to the assessment. Nor does there need to be a likelihood of any particular form of harm occurring before it may be taken into account. However, in determining what weight should be attached to information about past conduct and the prospect of apprehended harm in the future, it will be important to have regard to where on the spectrum of proof or satisfaction the information as to past conduct lies. It will be important to have regard to whether it represents, for example, proven past conduct, allegations based upon some sound factual basis and from an apparently credible source, or mere allegations without any identified factual basis or source.
112. As to the seriousness of the risk, this involves a consideration of the potential gravity of the consequences for a child were the apprehended harm to occur. This may range from a risk of immediate and significant physical or sexual harm, through to a risk of a longer-term form of psychological or emotional harm.
113. The assessment will often be multi-faceted, involving consideration of a range of information about past behaviours and risks, of varying types and with varying degrees of likelihood and seriousness. In such cases, it will require an assimilation and synthesis of this information, in order to arrive at an overall assessment of the risk that the relevant adult poses to children.
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115. It may be expected that a realistic prospect of relatively serious harm would ordinarily be unacceptable. Conversely, it may be expected that a fanciful, farfetched or theoretical prospect of mild or insignificant harm would ordinarily be acceptable. However, as should be apparent from the above articulation of the process, it is difficult, and generally unwise, to generalise.
The word "likely" is one which has various shades of meaning. It may mean "probable" in the sense of "more probable than not" - "more than a fifty per cent chance". It may mean "material risk" as seen by a reasonable man "such as might happen". It may mean "some possibility" - more than a remote or bare chance. Or, it may mean that the conduct engaged in is inherently of such a character that it would ordinarily cause the effect specified.
The adverb "reasonably" in the expression "reasonably likely" conveys a sense that the likelihood of an event occurring is relatively less than it is "likely". The qualifying adverb diminishes the phrase's weight or intensity compared with the power of the adjective "likely" standing by itself. It conveys a sense that there is "a fairly good chance" that the potential event will occur: see Re Fenwick (2009) 76 NSWLR 22; [2009] NSWSC 530 at [150]- [152] (Palmer J); see also Department of Agriculture and Rural Affairs v Binnie [1989] VicRp 73; [1989] VR 836. The "likely" event is not one which is more likely than not to occur, that is "odds on", or necessarily probable but must be more than a mere possibility: Re the Will of Bridget [2018] NSWSC 1509 at [106]- [108] (Hallen J).
(1A) The Tribunal may not make an order under this Part which has the effect of enabling a person (the affected person) to work with children in accordance with this Act unless the Tribunal is satisfied that -
(a) a reasonable person would allow his or her child to have direct contact with the affected person that was not directly supervised by another person while the affected person was engaged in any child-related work, and
(b) it is in the public interest to make the order.
a reasonable person would allow his or her child to have direct contact with the applicant that was not directly supervised by another person while the applicant was engaged in any type of child-related work.
A reasonable person would not approach the task with a closed mind, thinking that once a person has offended, he or she can never be redeemed. The reasonable person, however, would not put aside all scepticism and reasonable caution in this most difficult area in some over-optimistic attempt to facilitate rehabilitation.
(1) To be consistent with human experience that a reasonable parent would be more cautious about risks to their own child than they would in respect of other peoples' children [94];
(2) But, not so broadly so as to remove the intent behind this section [96]:
A hypothetical reasonable person, considering whether to allow their own child to have direct contact with an applicant for an Assessment Notice, could well take a different view if their child was very young and it was proposed that the child would be entirely alone with the applicant, than if the child was 17 years of age and was to be in contact with the applicant only at a school camp attended by many other teenage children and a number of teachers. This much is clear. But to refer to the broad range of possibilities in this way invites a misinterpretation and misapplication of the subsection 26A(4)(a), because it could create a situation where an applicant could never satisfy the test. The broader the age range of the child, and the broader the range of activities being child-related work as broadly defined, the more difficult it becomes to conclude that a reasonable person would ever allow his or her child to have direct contact with an applicant while the applicant was engaged in any type of child-related work
(1) For the Children's Guardian
(a) Section 58 Documents filed on 14 March 2025;
(b) Supplementary s 58 Documents filed on 27 March 2025;
(c) Further supplementary s 58 Documents filed on 30 April 2025;
(d) Non-confidential version of an Affidavit of MLC (an employee of the Children's Guardian) dated 19 May 2025;
(e) Non-confidential version of an Affidavit of TK (an employee of the Children's Guardian) dated 20 May 2025; and
(f) Non-confidential version of written submissions drawn on 6 June 2025.
(g) Supplementary submissions drawn on 18 June 2025.
(2) For the Applicant:
(a) Review Application filed 6 February 2025;
(b) Affidavit of the Applicant dated 1 April 2025;
(c) Affidavit of RM dated 25 March 2025;
(d) Affidavit of the Applicant's parent dated 1 April 2025;
(e) A bundle of references lodged 2 April 2025;
(f) Affidavit of the Applicant dated 28 May 2025;
(g) Written submissions drawn on 28 May 2025;
(h) Affidavit of the Applicant dated 13 June 2025 (with the consent of the Children's Guardian the Tribunal granted leave for the Applicant to rely upon this further Affidavit);
(i) Written submissions in reply drawn on 13 June 2025.
(j) Supplementary submissions drawn on 18 June 2025.
(1) The Children's Guardian accepted that there was no evidence before the Tribunal as to why Claimant 1 had not given a sworn statement or was not available for cross-examination. The failure to give evidence about Claimant 1's availability is significant in circumstances where the evidence suggested a person in contact with the Children's Guardian was also in contact with Claimant 1.
(2) It would be unfair to the Applicant for the Tribunal to give any substantial weight to new unsworn allegations of Claimant 1 without having any opportunity to test them.
(3) The fact that the document purportedly contained fresh complaints about the Applicant by Claimant 1 is not a compelling reason to admit the document. It was unexplained why Claimant 1 had not given sworn evidence about these complaints in the overseas arbitration proceedings in August-September 2024. The form and the content of the document did not produce any corroborative effect in respect of the sworn allegations made in the arbitration proceedings.
(4) Finally, to the extent that the document was said to contain evidence by Claimant 1 as to the impact on her of the Applicant's alleged conduct, there was sufficient record of those matters otherwise before the Tribunal in the Arbitration Decision.
(1) Engaged in physical misconduct by providing Claimant 1 alcohol in 2016 and 2017 when she was under the legal drinking age;
(2) Engaged in sexual misconduct with Claimant 1 on multiple occasions between 2016 and 2017 when she was 16-17 and the Applicant was 21-22; and
(3) Engaged in battery in 2017 - by kissing Claimant 2 over her objection.
(1) In January 2016 when she was 16 years old and the Applicant was 21 years old. The Claimant and the Applicant had been at a team gathering. The Claimant was looking for a ride back to her aunt's home, which the Applicant gave her. The supply of alcohol occurred during the trip.
(2) By admission in August/September 2016 at his apartment (despite the Applicant denying during the investigation having any recollection of providing alcohol to Claimant 1). Claimant 1 turned 17 years old in August 2016 and the Applicant would still have been 21 years old.
(1) The Applicant was not 'grooming' Claimant 1, but she was a lonely and vulnerable teenager living away from home.
(2) That the Applicant failed to exercise boundaries with his young friend who was also part of the same coaching group, creating a negative impact on her.
(1) The Tribunal notes that the Applicant continues to deny that he was aware of the age of consent in Region A until the end of his sexual relationship with Claimant 1. The Applicant says he would not have had a sexual relationship with Claimant 1 if he had known. The Applicant also says that Claimant 1 told him she did not want to be boyfriend/girlfriend and in that context agreed not to tell anyone of their sexual relationship. His motivation was said to be that the sport community was rife with gossip and as they were not boyfriend/girlfriend he wanted to keep it private. There was evidence before the Arbitrator that the Applicant was having sexual intercourse with another person, possibly Claimant 2, in the same period as Claimant 1.
(2) The Tribunal is unable to find that the Applicant knew of the age of consent in Region A, although it is likely that he had knowledge given he had been living in Region A since 2012 between the ages of 17 and 22 years; a period that many young people would be or be contemplating being sexually active. The Tribunal accepts that in the Region that Claimant 1 was from (Region B), the age of consent was 17 years. Claimant 1 and the Applicant both agree that their sexual relationship started shortly after Claimant 1 turned 17 years of age, and the Tribunal finds that it is probable both were to some degree alive to this issue. It is certainly possible that the Applicant wanted to keep the relationship quiet because of Claimant 1's age. It is also possible that he was respecting her privacy. Whether or not the Applicant knew his interactions with Claimant 1 were unlawful and he was being deliberately deceptive for that reason, it was at minimum insensitive behaviour potentially reflecting a pre-occupation with his own needs and interests over Claimant 1's.
(1) That the Applicant used physical force during intercourse, that his kissing and fondling of Claimant 1 was coercive, that he held her head and forced her onto his penis during oral sex, that sex was rough and that towards the end of their sexual relationship she said "no" many times and he held her down.
(2) That the Applicant took Claimant 1 to a lawyer in August 2017 to sign an NDA (presumably a non-disclosure agreement).
(1) That the Applicant engaged in non-consensual intercourse. The Arbitrator noted that the safety organisation did not pursue this allegation, Claimant 2 did not give evidence and the Applicant denied it. No particulars were included in the Arbitration Decision as to the nature of the alleged conduct by the Applicant.
(2) That the Applicant kissed Claimant 2 without her consent at a party.
(a) the seriousness of the offences with respect to which the person is a disqualified person or any matters that caused a refusal of a clearance or imposition of an interim bar,
(b) the period of time since those offences or matters occurred and the conduct of the person since they occurred,
(c) the age of the person at the time the offences or matters occurred,
(d) the age of each victim of any relevant offence or conduct at the time they occurred and any matters relating to the vulnerability of the victim,
(e) the difference in age between the victim and the person and the relationship (if any) between the victim and the person,
(f) whether the person knew, or could reasonably have known, that the victim was a child,
(h) the seriousness of the person's criminal history and the conduct of the person since the matters occurred,
(i) the likelihood of any repetition by the person of the offences or conduct and the impact on children of any such repetition,
(i1) any order of a court or tribunal that is in force in relation to the person,
(j) any information given by the applicant in, or in relation to, the application,
(j1) any relevant information in relation to the person that was obtained in accordance with section 36A,
(k) any other matters that the Children's Guardian considers necessary.
(1) A reasonable person is likely to be concerned about the Applicant's unlawful behaviour and the allegations of sexual assault made against him. However, the Tribunal considers that, armed with the facts, a parent would understand that the interactions between the Applicant and Claimant 1 relate to a specific time and place when both were young. They would understand the allegations of abusive behaviour are not proven and be reassured by the time has passed, the lack of any other evidence of relevant inappropriate conduct and the number of parents who are very happy with the Applicant's coaching and interactions with their children.
(2) In circumstances where the risk to the safety of children is low, there is a public interest in the Applicant being able to coach children as he was doing prior to the interim bar. The Applicant has enormous talent in his sport and there is significant benefit to individuals and the Australian community receive coaching from him. It is noted that the Children's Guardian accepts that if the Applicant does not pose a risk, the public interest test would be satisfied by the Applicant.
(1) The decision of the Children's Guardian on 25 June 2024 to impose an interim bar on the Applicant pursuant to s 17(2) Child Protection (Working with Children) Act 2012 is set aside.
I hereby certify that this is a true and accurate record of the reasons for decision of the Civil and Administrative Tribunal of New South Wales.
13 November 2025 - Para 106: Administrative formatting text removed.
17 November 2025 - Identifying information removed throughout the decision.
GWD
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