[2010] FMCA 690
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Federal Magistrates Court of Australia
2010-09-21
Ms J, Mr P
Original judgment source is linked above.
Mr Keeble, who was the construction manager employed by BLL at the ANZ Docklands site and by his deputy, Mr McGregor, who was the general foreman. Although they were cross-examined at some length, particularly Mr Keeble, there was in many ways little challenge to the description that they gave of the relevant events. 2. It is clear that a number of union officials arrived unannounced at about the same time around 7.15 am. Mr Setka was one of them. They dispersed onto the site without undergoing the usual induction and/or signing in process. 3. I will return to aspects of the evidence dealing with what Mr Setka attended the site for as a discrete issue later in these reasons. For the moment, it is sufficient to record that he met with a Mr Christopher,
Mr Keeble and Mr McGregor. There was a discussion as to whether Mr Setka was required to sign on and/or wear PPE clothing. 4. The picture emerges only too clearly that this interchange involved the sort of testosterone-fuelled and slightly childish interplay which can sometimes occur when union officials attend premises where they are by no means wholly welcome. 5. Following this exchange Mr Keeble and Mr McGregor, who stayed together and plainly acted as a team, came into the presence of another CFMEU organiser, Shaun Reardon. Although it is clear that Mr Reardon was taking photographs that day recording a number of safety matters that were of concern to him, it is equally plain that a childish process eventuated whereby he photographed Mr McGregor and Mr Keeble and Mr McGregor responded in kind. 6. Thereafter, Mr Keeble and Mr McGregor met Mr Setka again on what appears to have been the top floor of the building at that point in its construction. From Mr Keeble's evidence at P-10, it is clear that
Mr Setka was one of a group of union officials who raised safety concerns. 7. Then an interchange took place. In evidence-in-chief Mr Keeble initially made it clear that such memory as he had was taken from a statement. It is clear that that statement was made to an inspector from the ABCC and that Mr Keeble also made notes on the day which he has said were attached to the statement (P-9). 8. It is, however, clear from transcript P-10 that the document Mr Keeble was allowed to refresh his memory from in Court was, in fact, the note made on 6 March 2008. 9. At P-11 the following extract from those contemporaneous notes was confirmed by Mr Keeble as being an accurate record, namely:
"John went to me, went over the top a bit and started yelling, or with plenty of volume, anyway, that we were criminal, "fucking criminals. This job's a fucking disgrace and you're going to fucking kill someone." And that when we did, he would "quit my fucking job and get you". Now, at that point, he pointed at Rob - Rob and John know each other better than I know John, so I think they had a - a past relationship. Rob's response to that was, "Are you threatening me, John?". And John Setka's reply to that was, "I'm not fucking threatening. I am fucking promising. I'll get you and you."
Mr Keeble when he said "you and you". 2. This recitation of events was not challenged in cross-examination. (See P-53 to 54). 3. The evidence given by Mr McGregor was very much to the same effect. He confirmed that he and Mr Keeble met Mr Setka and
Mr Christopher. They discussed procedures under the right of entry and wearing appropriate PPE (P-67). Without the benefit of seeing his notes, Mr McGregor's recollection was: * "It would have been verbatim words to the effect of the site's disgusting and it's unsafe, and if you kill anybody in this project, I'll quit my job and I'll come and get you, or something like that." (P-68). 4. Mr McGregor made notes that day. He said: * "We keep a diary on our projects. We report on - when I say we, the people of the site team - we report on different sections of it. I generally report by exception on industrial relations without keeping the overall project diary. However, any industrial relations issues I'm required to make notes of." (P-68). 5. At P-69, having refreshed his memory, he confirmed an account of the conversation with Mr Setka in relevantly identical terms to that of
Mr Keeble. 6. At P-73 to P-74, the same version of events was, in effect, repeated but not challenged. 7. Immediately after this outburst, Mr Setka left the presence of
Mr Keeble and Mr McGregor who did not see him again that day. 8. Thereafter, there was a further incident involving a Mr Montebello, not a member of the CFMEU but an organiser for another union, in extremely heated terms. 9. Thereafter, although not long, a meeting was held with union representatives and the site safety committee at which a number of safety issues were addressed. 10. It should be noted that when I observed earlier that union officials sometimes faced difficulties in attending sites where they are not keenly desired by management, the clear inference from the evidence is that BLL was not a site overly given to accommodating union attendance. It appears that on the day when safety issues were raised, Mr Keeble, in Mr McGregor's presence (as they were throughout), said that if there were safety issues, they would discuss them with their safety committee but not with union officials. 11. Whilst it would seem to me that BLL was quite entitled to insist upon its normal protocols for visitors being followed, something that the actions of the various union officials who arrived and fanned out across the site prevented, nonetheless it is equally clear that this was an employer which regarded union interference as unwelcome. 12. In my opinion, a union is entirely entitled to raise safety issues with an employer, and it is difficult in fact to think of something more obviously appropriate for a union to deal with. The response to the effect that BLL would only deal with its site committee and not with the union officials who attended suggests a measure of tension arising from a particular attitude on the part of BLL's officers.
(P-42); 3. Mr Keeble was cross-examined about the contents of his notes
(P-43). Mr Keeble was also cross-examined to the effect that his failure to record matters in his notes suggested that they had not occurred (a reference to Mr Setka or Mr Christopher telling him what their business was P-44); 4. Mr Keeble's notes were the subject of further cross-examination as to whether they had been exaggerated in relation to the incident with Mr Montebello (P-52); 5. At P-54, the following exchange took place under cross-examination: * "So he accused you of being criminals, albeit with a colourful adjective attached to it?...yes. * Is that right?...yes * And this is against a background that there are a number of items on the site that - on that day, which were clearly a risk to the health and safety of workers. Is that not right - yes.... * And again, that was against the background of there being a number of different items identified as being risks to the health and safety of workers. Is that not right?...That's right. * And he said to you, against that background, "You're going to fucking kill someone", didn't he?...yes."
Mr Reardon, took photographs. In the light of what was said by Mr Setka, and the discussions, if one can so describe them, that he had with the management representatives, it is clear that safety is what his visit was for. True it is that nobody asked him for his entry permit. True it also is that he never said in terms that he was there to address health and safety issues. Nonetheless, it is quite clear to me that that is what he was there for. The legal effects of this conclusion will require further consideration. 7. In this regard it seems to me that Pine v Doyle [2005] FCA 977 is directly on point. In that case, Merkel J was faced with an almost identical situation where the respondent submitted that the requirement under the law that he would be exercising his power of entry under the Act could not be satisfied if as a matter of law his purported exercise of the power was unlawful (see Pine v Doyle at [14]). His Honour went on at [15] - [18] to rule against that submission and I respectfully adopt and incorporate his Honour's judgment and in particular those paragraphs on this issue.
Mr Christopher. The notes continue: * "We repeated our position that they were unauthorised and trespassing, they maintained their position that they had been invited on by Safety Committee and that they had significant safety concerns in particular; * - lighting to access ways to cores * - edge protection around atrium ..... * We explained that we would deal with these issues as a site and did not require their unauthorised access to prompt us. At this point Setka went mad screaming that we were "FUCKING CRIMINALS" "THIS JOB'S A FUCKING DISGRACE" and "YOU'RE GOING TO FUCKING KILL SOMEONE" and that when we did he would "QUIT MY FUCKING JOB AND GET YOU"." 5. It is clear from that extract, although as I say I think it was clear from the evidence as a whole and in any event, that Mr Setka was one of a number of union officials who visited the site because of safety concerns on that day and that Mr Setka was indeed purporting to exercise his right of entry pursuant to an occupational health and safety law. 6. The question which I have already answered, namely the admissibility of the document, now requires to be addressed. Although these are proceedings for a civil penalty, they are civil proceedings to be conducted in accordance with civil practice and according to the civil burden of proof (s.729 WR Act). 7. Pursuant to s.64 of the Evidence Act 1995 it is provided that in civil proceedings if a person who made a previous representation is available to give evidence about an asserted fact: * "(3) If the person who made the representation has been or is to be called to give evidence, the hearsay rule does not apply to evidence of the representation that is given by: (a) that person" 8. Here, both Mr Keeble and Mr McGregor clearly exhausted their memory before they were permitted to have regard to their prior contemporaneous notes. In my opinion it is scarcely surprising that Mr Keeble and Mr McGregor should not have an exact recall of all the events of the day now over two years ago when these matters took place. Equally unsurprisingly they managed to remember some of the more salient aspects of the day including Mr Setka's outburst at them after refreshing their memories. 9. In the circumstances, and more particularly so given that they were both cross-examined on the notes and in terms that suggested that the notes were entirely accurate, it would seem to me entirely appropriate to exercise my discretion to admit the notes themselves. I note that notes of an apparently relevantly identical kind were admitted without comment by Flick J in Darlaston v Parker [2010] FCA 771 (at [104] and [207]). 10. It should also be noted that in the case of Mr McGregor (albeit that his notes were not tendered) and also in the case of Mr Keeble, the notes appeared to be admissible as business records. In the light of
Mr McGregor's answers quoted above, they would appear to be records kept by an organisation in the course of or for the purposes of its business, were made by people who had personal knowledge of the asserted facts, and were not, so far as the evidence discloses, prepared for the purpose of conducting or in contemplation of or in connection with an Australian proceeding (see s.69 Evidence Act). I would have qualified those remarks with the observation that while the notes were made in the course of the business, as in my view they clearly were, the extent to which they were made in contemplation of a proceeding such as that with which we are now concerned might perhaps be thought to be more opaque. 11. In any event, and for the reasons I have given, I think Mr Keeble's notes are admissible and they only go to confirm the picture that the evidence as a whole presented on this point.
6 March 2008 Mr Setka and a number of other union officials arrived at the ANZ Docklands site. They did not comply with the occupier's site procedures, but fanned out across the premises to investigate safety matters of concern. 2. The reception of these union officials was to an extent antagonistic and to an extent reasonable. It was reasonable insofar as Mr Keeble and Mr McGregor sought to have Mr Setka and Mr Christopher conform with their normal and perfectly reasonable signing in procedures, for example, and unreasonable insofar as it involved taking photographs of Mr Reardon and refusing to discuss safety issues with union officials when they desired to do so. 3. The condition of the site was plainly inadequate. In extensive cross-examination of Mr Keeble, it became clear that there were extensive deficiencies in the safety aspects of the site, a matter particularly confirmed further by Mr McGregor. 4. As a result of this, Mr Setka became upset and delivered himself of the tirade earlier described.
Hogan v Riley [2010] FCAFC 30 at [18]. See also the judgment of Flick J in Darlaston v Brian Parker & Ors [2010] FCA 771 at [17].
Was Mr Setka a person exercising, or seeking to exercise, rights under an OHS law in accordance with section 756 of the Act?
Mr Setka's incursion, attention was directed only to the purpose for which Mr Setka attended. Nothing was submitted by either the applicant or the respondent as to whether or not Mr Setka was affected by the limitation on entry rights contained in ss 763 and 765 of the WR Act. There might for example have been an issue as to whether Mr Setka was entitled to enter or remain on the premises given his alleged possible refusal to comply with the demand that he sign in: (section 765(2)). 7. The submission ultimately advanced by the respondent was that s.767(1) is not engaged because the applicant has not established to the requisite standard what rights, if any, the respondent was exercising or seeking to exercise. 8. In my view, this submission cannot be sustained. As I have earlier indicated, it is quite clear that Mr Setka attended the premises to address extant safety issues. He did so in circumstances where he held a permit under the OHS Act to do so. It is not necessary for the applicant to identify in precise terms exactly which right conferred by the right of entry that Mr Setka had that he was seeking to exercise. Of its nature, this could only ever be known to him. 9. It is clear that s.767 is designed to control the way in which persons who have a right of entry arising under an OHS law exercise that right. Once it is established, as it clearly is here, that Mr Setka had that right and was exercising it, it is not necessary to specify in greater detail exactly what aspects of that right he was seeking to engage. 10. In my view, it is sufficient for these purposes to note that Mr Setka was a permit holder and that he entered upon the premises with a view to investigating safety concerns in respect of the members of his union. In my view, such conduct constitutes 'exercising, or seeking to exercise, rights under an OHS law'. 11. I was referred to the case of Pine v Doyle to which I have already referred. 12. Pine v Doyle has been the subject of further consideration by the
Full Court of the Federal Court in CFMEU v John Holland Pty Ltd [2010] FCAFC 90. That, once again, was a s.760 case where relevantly significant differences in the section occur. Most notably, s.760 is concerned with circumstances where 'a permit holder for an organisation may enter premises for the purposes of holding discussions' (emphasis added). There is no similar wording in s.756. 13. Dowsett J said at [41]:
"In the present case, s.767(1) would be engaged only if a permit holder is exercising, or seeking to exercise rights under s.760. If s.760 is not engaged (because the permit holder lacks the prescribed purpose) then there are no relevant rights for the purposes of s.767(1). In other words, s.767(1) regulates the way in which a person exercises his or her right of entry pursuant to s.760. Such an approach may be inconsistent with that taken by Merkel J in Pine v Doyle (citation given). His Honour concluded that a purported, but unlawful, exercise of the power of entry would engage a prohibition on hindering or obstructing in the exercise of a statutory power to enter. Although the distinction between the power and the right may be a narrow basis for distinguishing that decision, I am unpersuaded that a permit holder can be described as exercising or seeking to exercise a right under s.760 if there is no such right because of the absence of the requisite purpose. I would, however, prefer to leave that question unresolved, largely because it has not been argued."
WR Act, thus rendering his presence on this site unlawful, it should not be used to defeat the operation of the Act in s.767.
Did Mr Setka "otherwise act in an improper manner?"
Is the intention required in relation to otherwise acting in an improper manner?
(see paragraphs 8 and 9, applicant's supplementary submissions filed
6 August 2010). 7. The decision of the Full Court in CFMEU v John Holland did not deal in terms with the issue as to whether or not acting in an improper manner required intent. That was because that case was solely concerned with a person who had allegedly hindered or obstructed another person. Spender J at [26] expressed the view that the test for intention is a subjective one, not an objective one. At [46] Dowsett J said: * "The requirement that any hindrance or obstruction be intentional prima facie requires that there be a subjective intention to hinder or obstruct. It is not sufficient that the relevant conduct was willed and that the permit holder must be taken to have been aware of such hindering or obstructive effect. It may be sufficient that the permit holder acts, knowing that there will be a hindering or obstructive effect. It may also be possible to infer subjective intent from objective facts. However, section s 767 says nothing about deemed intention." 8. It is not entirely clear to me that the Court produced a decision in regard to this aspect of the matter because Logan J, who is in the minority as to the result, said at [179]: * "I find that the conduct was intentional in the sense that the conduct was unreasonable as the permit holders must be taken to have been aware that their conduct in entering the premises in all the circumstances described in these reasons was likely to impede Mr Ingham and nevertheless the permit holders elected to enter the site, progress to the crib huts and conduct meetings ..." 9. It is arguable that Logan J's judgment is closer to that of Dowsett J than that of Spender J. 10. Since that decision, however, Flick J has determined the matter of Darlaston v Parker and Others [2010] FCA 771. I have had regard to the entirety of his Honour's reasons for judgment in that decision, but would note in particular the following points.
(a) At [47] his Honour noted that, in relation to s.767(1),
"a number of potential sources of difficulty emerge from what may otherwise be regarded as a comparatively simple provision. These potential difficulties include establishing that any conduct was pursued intentionally; giving content to the expression "hinder or obstruct"; and identifying an act that constitutes acting in an improper manner."
"For the purposes of s.767(1) it is considered that the reference to "intentionally hinder or obstruct" is a reference to any act or conduct that actually makes it more difficult for the person who is hindered or obstructed to discharge these functions, other than an act or conduct which is accidental. The act must be of such a nature that it is an appreciable obstruction or interference. A trivial act or even an act which could not reasonably be regarded as an obstruction or interference would not fall within s.767(1)."
(c) At [53] his Honour noted the decision of the Full Court in CFMEU v John Holland.
"Difficulty is also encountered in construing the last of the phrases in s.767(1), namely the proscription of a "permit holder" acting in an improper manner. Presumably the parliamentary draftsman saw no need to confine an act which amounts to acting in an improper manner to an intentional act. But conduct which falls outside of an intentional hindrance or an intentional obstruction of a person, and yet falls within an act in an improper manner, is not further defined by either s 767 or as a whole."
"It may be that a contravention of s 758 involves both the necessity to prove that the person against whom the contravention is alleged is both a permit holder and a person who is asserting a right of entry under an OHS law."
"For the purposes of acting in an improper manner it is not considered necessary to prove that Mr Mitchell intended to act in any such manner."
"The quality of the conduct engaged, is hindering and obstructing any person and the second limb engaging the notion of otherwise acting in an improper manner, takes its character from intentional acts of hindrance and obstruction."
I certify that the preceding ninety-three (93) paragraphs are a true copy of the reasons for judgment of Burchardt FM
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