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[2020] NSWCATAD 29
NCAT Administrative and Equal Opportunity
2019-11-04
Original judgment source is linked above.
Background facts
Comments made by Mr Young about Ms Forkin's appearance
The alleged sexual relationship
The fortnight before Ms Forkin's dismissal
Emails and SMS messages
Emails to and from Mr Young and Ms Forkin From: Di Forkin Sent: Thursday, 15 March 2018 7:25 PM To: Matt Young Subject: Re pay review The day we did the pay review i wasnt focused on the review I know its to be reviewed now every 6 months but considering my efforts I was hoping expecting a bigger outcome for me From: Matt Young Sent: Thursday, 15 March 2018 8:10 PM To: Di Forkin Subject: Re: Re pay review BOSS MODE. Not going to happen pay increase is based on profits when we get profits up it can increase. Profit was up 5 % (only because i did all of the training last year) cpi was 2.1%. Ur lucky i pulled your review into 6 monthly. I am a little annoyed actually. You have had 2 substantial increases 2 years running. More than most. You got a 1600 tae couse last year 1400 tax free perk in a laptop as well this year.. Your efforts are paid for in full to date. If your not happy with the review i can remove it and you can look at other options if you like. No one is irreplaceable in buisiness. Matt Young From: Di Forkin Sent: Thursday, 15 March 2018 8:46 PM To: Matt Young Subject: Re: Re pay review Got the message From: Di Forkin Sent: Thursday, 15 March 2018 9:03 PM To: Matt Young Subject: Re: Re pay review I should have talked bout that in the meeting when we talked I was merely stating my opinion that i hadnt in the meeting You need to do what you have to do now After that harsh email Kind regards Diane Forkin From: Matt Young Sent: Thursday, 15 March 2018 9:08 PM To: Di Forkin Subject: Re: Re pay review I dont understand this email. Please explain. Matt Young From: Di Forkin Sent: Friday, 16 March 2018 3:20 AM To: Matt Young Subject: Re: Re pay review I was just responding to your email I know no1 is irreplaceable what you suggested I have tried hard to show my commitment to ctc And considering my situation at the time i wasnt concentrating in the meeting I have the flu and passed out last night I did put in another long day at work yesterday I am going to try get in docs this morning as i may need antiobiotics if im ok to come to work i will if not i will let you know Lines crossed Regards di forkin From: Matt Young Sent: Friday, 16 March 2018 7:28 AM To: Di Forkin Subject: Re: Re pay review Your increase was in the vicinity of 6 k. No one gets that. You should be happy. Matt Young From: Di Forkin Sent: Friday, 16 March 2018 9:19 AM To: Matt Young Subject: Re sick today Attachments: 20180316_091755.jpg I have been to the docs and attached my medical certificate for today From: Matthew Young Sent: Friday, 16 March 2018 11:18 AM To: 'Diane Forkin' Cc: 'Di Forkin' Subject: FW: Performance Review Diane, Please find attached review summary from the 5th March 2018. Whether you were concentrating during the review or not I did confirm the outcome in writing on that day at your request. A review is a process that is fundamentally not negotiable after the fact. It is decided by management. CTC is not entitled to pay anymore than the 2.1% CPI under your current contract. CTC has decided to allow another 5% increase on top of CPI. With no response until approximately 7.25pm last night it was assumed that you had agreed to this. I am happy to re conduct the review so you have a chance to explain you reasoning for not accepting this outcome on this coming Monday. Kind regards, Matt Young From: Matthew Young Sent: Friday, 16 March 2018 3:52 PM To: 'Diane Forkin' Subject: FW: Performance Review Di further to the email below [email sent at 11:18 am]. I wont actually be in the office until Wednesday the 21st, I have training on the 19th and 20th. I will be very busy Wednesday so I won't be able to do anything on the website or your re review mentioned below until Thursday or Friday of that week (if I am lucky and no further training comes up). Kind regards, Matthew Young From: Di Forkin Sent: Saturday, 17 March 2018 12:21 AM To: Matt Young CTC Safety Subject: Re: Re pay review In the first instance i was stating my view on the pay review MY manner stayed calm as is still If you require me to have monday and Tuesday off i will use the days i worked on the weekends prior I was keen to get back in and finish launching I have a funeral on wed and needed to leave lunchtime I need to come in get stuff from fridge today late morning Regards Diane Forkin From: Matthew Young Sent: Saturday, 17 March 2018 8:03 AM To: 'Diane Forkin' Subject: FW: Performance Review Diane, I refer to your email below; CTC Safety withdraws its previous salary review offer, for it has not been accepted by you at this date. I am seriously concerned about your current behaviour towards me as your employer. You are the one who has chosen to communicate using this email volley rather than picking up the phone and talking to me or approaching me at the workplace. We are only a three person company and the approach is distasteful. Your manner has not been calm you have been disrespectful, irrational and in some cases threatening during this communication. It is inappropriate in an employer employee relationship you tell the employee what to do and it will not be tolerated in any form. You will not use any time in lieu because contractually you do not have any. I will clarify my position you are suspended without pay until we resolve this issue next Wednesday. The reason is that "we do not have an agreed pay rate". Please do not access the company's premises or the company's IT systems during this time. I would like you to attend an meeting on Wednesday 21st March at 9.30am here at Tuggerah with myself and a third party (Cheryl) can be present if you require. Hopefully this discussion may resolve your issues and the company's position. If you continue to test me and if you do not agree I will have to seek an alternate remedy to this stalemate you have created which will not be beneficial to any of the parties. In the mean time we still do not have a live website and the company is losing revenue as you are complaining about getting more money. There is no value in this at all. In the meantime if you wish to contact me to discuss the matter for, hopefully, an early resolution please do not hesitate to call me at any time. Kind regards, Matthew Young From: Di Forkin Sent: Saturday, 17 March 2018 8:22 AM To: Matthew Young Subject: Re: FW: Performance Review Attachments: image001.png I was in bed all day yesterday how could i print ou the contract and sign it From: Di Forkin Sent: Saturday, 17 March 2018 11:19 AM To: Matthew Young Subject: Re: FW: Performance Review Attachments: image001.png Agree :) [In response to Matthew Young's email of Friday, 16 March 2018 at 11:18] From: Di Forkin Sent: Sunday, 18 March 2018 9:04 AM To: Matthew Young III be in for meeting Wednesday Like ive already said i was stating my view on the pay review thats what i wanted to explain on the phone You had asked me to work weekends for time off From: Matt Young Sent: Sunday, 18 March 2018 9:15 AM To: Di Forkin Subject: Re: Re pay review I dont work Sundays. Matt Young From: Matt Young Sent: Sunday, 18 March 2018 6:10 PM To: Di Forkin Subject: Re: Re pay review Diane, I will be driving to sydney tommorow from 5.30 am to 7.30 am if you would like to call me. If not see you wednesday. Matt Young From: Di Forkin Sent: Friday, 23 March 2018 6:19 AM To: Matt Young Cc: [AWNA email] Subject: re: Keys and Uniform The keys and the uniform for CTC Safety were sent back yesterday by mail. Regards DIANE FORKIN
Text messages Fri 16 Mar. 2018 7:21:20 pm From: Forkin to Young I am going in tmrw to get my meat in fridge where would i find my gazebo metal base Slept all day talk Monday Fri 16 Mar. 2018 7:31:16 pm From: Young to Forkin Well are you staying or going? Fri 16 Mar. 2018 7:32:50 pm From: Forkin to Young Cant tmrw have family over liz back Fri 16 Mar. 2018 7:34:38 pm From: Young to Forkin I mean at work. Are you going to keep working there i am not sure. Fri 16 Mar. 2018 7:38:12 pm From: Forkin to Young Thats up 2 you guess depends if youve replaced me yet III be in monday 2 work as normal if you dont say otherwise Fri 16 Mar. 2018 7:40:47 pm From: Young to Forkin OK. Thank you for clarifying this. How could i replace you in 1 day. Fri 16 Mar. 2018 7:47:50 pm From: Forkin to Young Can u point me to where that gazebo base is is it in the factory? Fri 16 Mar. 2018 7:49:26 pm From: Young to Forkin Near the side door. Fri 16 Mar. 2018 7:49:41 pm From: Forkin to Young Ta Fri 16 Mar. 2018 7:54:12 pm From: Young to Forkin I would prefer if you took a few days leave intill this matter can be sorted out wednesday next week. Take Monday and Tuesday off. See you Wednesday. Fri 16 Mar. 2018 11:18:14 pm From: Forkin to Young Ok are you not there monday Tuesday ? Fri 16 Mar. 2018 11:21:56 pm From: Forkin to Young I have days in lieu that i worked too 2 weekends in a row Sat 17 Mar. 2018 8:22:34 am From: Forkin to Young I am tryg to call u? Sat 17 Mar. 2018 10:04:57 am From: Young to Forkin I am busy. Sat 17 Mar. 2018 11:13:55 am From: Forkin to Young Ok if you are worried bout me at all trust wise i can drop keys off to cheryl monday I dont have a problem with that Sat 17 Mar. 2018 11:18:05 am From: Forkin to Young Or i can pop them in the post seriously i wouldn't do anytg harmful i was up early and needed to marinate the chicken so i got my meat nothg more than that Sat 17 Mar. 2018 11:24:35 am From: Forkin to Young If you tryg to break me you are doing a good job Sat 17 Mar. 2018 11:48:27 am From: Young to Forkin I dont know what you are talking about even. I am very annoyed with regards to the way you communicated with me with regard to the salary review that is it. Nothing more. You were very disrespectful so i am treating you the way i was treated. I will call you later this afternoon if you like to discuss it. I am busy with the kids. Sun 18 Mar. 2018 7:46:05 am From: Forkin to Young Hi can we talk had family here till late Mon 19 Mar. 2018 7:33:49 am From: Young to Forkin I extended the olive branch again to call me this morning and you did not call. I am the employer not you. You persue a resolution. Not me. You are not going to win this contest if that is what you are trying to do. Get your head together or i will terminate. Mon 19 Mar. 2018 7:47:35 am From: Forkin to Young Ha thats what i get for not calling him Mon 19 Mar. 2018 7:57:58 am From: Young to Forkin Are you serious? Mon 19 Mar. 2018 8:07:44 am From: Forkin to Young that wasnt for you and was about sm1 else Mon 19 Mar. 2018 10:05:37 am From: Young to Forkin You are terminated without notice. Mon 19. Mar. 2018 6:30:05 pm From: Young to Forkin That wasnt for you and was about sm1 else Wed 21 Mar. 2018 6:50:40 pm From: Forkin to Young Why? Thu 22 Mar. 2018 1:20:17 pm From: Young to Forkin I have continuously offered to talk to try to resolve this, to no avail, you have chosen your path. The door is still open for resolution it is up to you. Thu 22 Mar. 2018 5:07:59 pm From: Young to Forkin To clarify the last text resolution means to negotiate the current flippant dismissal claim and pending law suit against you by ctc safety and the current police complaint about unlawful entry and theft of files and data. Thu 22 Mar. 2018 5:10:58 pm From: Young to Forkin I am now blocking this number. Contact me only through my legal advisor.
The text message ending the alleged relationship
The laptop
The dismissal
Dealing between CTC and Ms Forkin after the dismissal
Proceedings in Fair Work Australia
Disclosure of claim of sexual harassment to GP
General observations about the evidence
Did, as claimed, Mr Young repeatedly comment on Ms Forkin's appearance?
Do the offending comments and/or the "brush past" amount to unwelcome conduct of a sexual nature in relation to Ms Forkin, in circumstances in which a reasonable person, having regard to all the circumstances, would have anticipated that Ms Forkin would be offended, humiliated or intimidated?
Brushing past Ms Forkin's breast
Summary
The alleged sexual relationship
Claim of Victimisation
I hereby certify that this is a true and accurate record of the reasons for decision of the Civil and Administrative Tribunal of New South Wales. Registrar DISCLAIMER - Every effort has been made to comply with suppression orders or statutory provisions prohibiting publication that may apply to this judgment or decision. The onus remains on any person using material in the judgment or decision to ensure that the intended use of that material does not breach any such order or provision. Further enquiries may be directed to the Registry of the Court or Tribunal in which it was generated. Decision last updated: 23 January 2020
Forkin
Young
The issues to be determined and the onus of proof
[2000] FMCA 2
(1959) 101 CLR 298
(1992) 110 ALR 449