[2025] FWC 450
General information, not legal advice.
Fair Work Commission
2025-02-14
Original judgment source is linked above.
Determining the ordinary meanings of employee and employer
(1) For the purposes of this Act, whether an individual is an employee of a person within the ordinary meaning of that expression, or whether a person is an employer of an individual within the ordinary meaning of that expression, is to be determined by ascertaining the real substance, practical reality and true nature of the relationship between the individual and the person.
(2) For the purposes of ascertaining the real substance, practical reality and true nature of the relationship between the individual and the person:
(a) the totality of the relationship between the individual and the person must be considered; and
(b) in considering the totality of the relationship between the individual and the person, regard must be had not only to the terms of the contract governing the relationship, but also to other factors relating to the totality of the relationship including, but not limited to, how the contract is performed in practice.
Note: This section was enacted as a response to the decisions of the High Court of Australia in CFMMEU v Personnel Contracting Pty Ltd [2022] HCA 1 and ZG Operations Australia Pty Ltd v Jamsek [2022] HCA 2.
119 Old Act applies to proceedings on foot as at commencement:
(1) Despite the amendment made by item 237 of Part 15 of Schedule 1 to the amending Act, the old Act continues to apply, on and after commencement, as if that amendment had not been made, in relation to the following:
(a) an application made, or proceedings on foot, as at commencement, other than an application or proceedings prescribed by the regulations;
(b) an application for review of, or an appeal relating to, an application or proceedings referred to in paragraph (a) (whether the application for review was made, or the appeal proceedings were brought, before, before, on or after commencement).
(a) The letter of 25 November 2010, that confirmed she was an employee after she had become a shareholder and director;
(b) The various Payroll Employee Summaries**,** Payroll Activity Details**,** Income Statements and Payslips that were indicative of employment;
(c) The Applicant's stated entitlement to long service leave;
(d) The 31 July 2024 email referring to whether the Applicant was proceeding with terminating her employment;
(e) The 1 August 2024 letter referring to termination of employment; and
(f) That the Deed had not been signed by Ms Hill and so was unfinalized.
(a) The Applicant's purchase of 50% of the shares in the respondent for $600,000 in 2010;
(b) The Applicant's remuneration as director and partner of $150,000 per annum plus superannuation, being equal to Mr Ward (with the Applicant's remuneration to be reduced by $50,000 per year to pay off the vendor finance and the bank loan supporting it);
(c) The applicant being put forward to staff and clients alike as a partner in the company, with degree of control and a vested interest in the company that is not characteristic of an employer-employee relationship; and
(d) The entry into the Deed in mid-2018, which Respondent contended exhaustively recorded the agreement reached between the parties as shareholders, with the Respondent submitting that the Corporations Act 2001 (Cth) prescribes the duties and rights of directors and shareholders.
Where there is not a written contract, the identification of the parties' contractual rights must proceed somewhat differently but the fundamental task is the same: the parties' contractual rights and obligations are to be ascertained and characterised. The question remains what the parties' legal rights and obligations were, rather than how they behaved in the performance of their contract. However, that distinction obviously becomes more complicated where the contract is not written and its terms are to be inferred in whole or in part from the parties' conduct. The terms of an oral contract may not be limited to express terms; terms may be inferred from the circumstances, including a course of dealing between the parties, or implied where necessary for business efficacy.
Where there is no written contract and no evidence of a particular conversation in which a contract was formed orally, evidence of the parties' conduct must necessarily be considered in order to draw inferences as to whether the meeting of minds necessary to create a contract has occurred and what obligations they have thereby undertaken (see Personnel Contracting at [177] (Gordon J, Steward J agreeing)).
13. Once the contours of the legal relationship are identified, its characterisation as one of employment or not often hinges on two considerations identified in Personnel Contracting, in particular by Kiefel CJ, Keane and Edelman JJ at [36]-[39], each of which may involve questions of degree, namely:
(a) the extent to which the putative employer has the right to control how, when and where the putative employee performs the work; and
(b) the extent to which the putative employee can be seen to be working in their own business as distinct from the putative employer's business.
And who were they responsible to in the performance of those indicators? --- Well, they were responsible to the directors and/or partners, and in our management meetings, that we then started to have regular management meetings, we - the budgets that were prepared by Ross for each of the senior accountants, including each of the partners, had their own budget. They were all discussed in the meeting in regards to the performance.
And that's between yourselves, is it, as the directors of the business at the time? --- And the other managers of the firm.
All right? --- They manage. So we had general managers, practice managers, the HR manager.
And they reported to you as the directors? --- Yes.
And the staff reported to you as directors in relation to the performance, their performance within the practice? ---- Yes.
All right, and the only people that you reported to, in relation to your performance in the practice, was the body comprised of yourself and the other directors? --- Yes.
(a) the person's employment with his or her employer has been terminated on the employer's initiative; or
(b) the person has resigned from his or her employment, but was forced to do so because of conduct, or a course of conduct, engaged in by his or her employer.
[47] Having regard to the above authorities and the bifurcation in the definition of
"dismissal" established in s.386(1) of the FW Act, we consider that the position under the FW Act may be summarised as follows:
(1) There may be a dismissal within the first limb of the definition in s.386(1)(a)
where, although the employee has given an ostensible communication of a
resignation, the resignation is not legally effective because it was expressed in
the "heat of the moment" or when the employee was in a state of emotional
stress or mental confusion such that the employee could not reasonably be
understood to be conveying a real intention to resign. Although "jostling" by
the employer may contribute to the resignation being legally ineffective,
employer conduct is not a necessary element. In this situation if the employer
simply treats the ostensible resignation as terminating the employment rather
than clarifying or confirming with the employee after a reasonable time that the
employee genuinely intended to resign, this may be characterised as a termination of the employment at the initiative of the employer.
(2) A resignation that is "forced" by conduct or a course of conduct on the part of
the employer will be a dismissal within the second limb of the definition in
s.386(1)(b). The test to be applied here is whether the employer engaged in the
conduct with the intention of bringing the employment to an end or whether
termination of the employment was the probably result of the employer's
conduct such that the employee had no effective or real choice but to resign.
Unlike the situation in (1), the requisite employer conduct is the essential
[48] It is necessary for an applicant for an unfair dismissal remedy whose employment has terminated because the employer has acted on a communication of resignation on the part of the employee to articulate whether they contend they were dismissed in the first or the second scenario above (although it may be possible for both scenarios to arise in a particular factual situation). Where the applicant is self-represented or inadequately represented, it may be necessary for the member of the Commission hearing the matter to clarify with the applicant the precise basis upon which it is contended that the applicant was dismissed. If this is not done, it may lead to the wrong test being applied to the matter.
(a) None of the "policies and procedures" for disciplinary meetings were followed, and the Applicant was not given appropriate notice, the opportunity to bring a support person or address the discrepancies;
(b) The Respondent did not allow a reasonable time to pass until formalising the termination, and moved quickly to close off the Applicant's access to her computer; and
(c) The Applicant was forced to resign after she refused to participate in a scheme to avoid any fallout from another adverse finding against the Respondent and Mr Ward.
I don't want anything to do with any of this. Throw whatever you want at me but I am NOT going to agree to what you want. I don't want to know and I won't be involved
You can out vote me as much as you like, but you can't force me to do something I have clearly said no to. Now move out of my way.
... once again the plan or the scheme was changed to benefit Damien and only Damien, and I did not want any part of it at all, and I had said that to him on so many times that I did not want to be a part of it. And I was happy for Count, I was happy for Hayes Knight to buy 100 per cent. That was the original plan. I was happy for Count to buy my 10 per cent. That was the second plan. But then the final plan was that he was basically dropping a bombshell looking after himself and walking out and leaving the shit for me to deal with. Excuse my language.
[16] [ 2022] FCA 750 (29 June 2022)
[18] [2023] FCA 1047, at [8] and [9].
[19] Contrary to the facts in Hopcroft & Anor. v Edmunds & Ors. (No.2) [2012] SASC 94
[21] [2024] FCA 508, at [13].
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Wards Accounting Group Pty Ltd [2025] FWC 450