austlii:cth/FedCFamC1A/2025/158
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FedCFamC1A
2025-09-08
Williams JJ
Original judgment source is linked above.
Note: The form of the order is subject to the entry in the Court's records.
Note: This copy of the Court's Reasons for judgment may be subject to review to remedy minor typographical or grammatical errors (r 10.14(b) Federal Circuit and Family Court of Australia (Family Law) Rules 2021 (Cth)), or to record a variation to the order pursuant to r 10.13 (Cth).
Part XIVB of the Family Law Act 1975 (Cth) makes it an offence, except in very limited circumstances, to publish an account of proceedings that identify persons, associated persons, or witnesses involved in family law proceedings.
IT IS NOTED that publication of this judgment by this Court under the pseudonym Chong & Kerimowa has been approved pursuant to subsection 114Q(2) of the Family Law Act 1975 (Cth).
(Mother's Summary of Argument filed 28 July 2025)
HIS HONOUR: ... Thank you. So does that mean that the report writer - your client consents to the report writer coming on Friday?
[Counsel for the mother]: Yes, your Honour. Right.
HIS HONOUR: And she will either obtain alternate legal representation, or she will ask questions herself.
[Counsel for the mother]: Yes, your Honour ...
(Transcript 12 March 2025, p.158 lines 26-36)
(Mother's Summary of Argument filed 28 July 2025)
(a) her counsel conferring with her whilst she was still under cross-examination;
(b) her lawyers seeking to withdraw their representation during the trial without proper foundation;
(c) her counsel not taking appropriate objections to questions asked of her during cross-examination; and
(d) her counsel not re-examining her.
[Counsel for the mother]: Yes, your Honour, and I just wanted to confirm. Your Honour earlier - your Honour indicated I would have leave to conference my client. I think at the time, with respect - - -
[Counsel for the father]: Yes, of course.
(Transcript 11 March 2025, p.147 lines 43-47)
26.1 A solicitor must not confer with any witness (including a party or client) called by the solicitor on any matter related to the proceedings while that witness remains under cross-examination, unless -
26.1.1 the cross-examiner has consented beforehand to the solicitor doing so, or
26.1.2 the solicitor -
(i) believes on reasonable grounds that special circumstances (including the need for instructions on a proposed compromise) require such a conference,
(ii) has, if possible, informed the cross-examiner beforehand of the solicitor's intention to do so, and
(iii) otherwise does inform the cross-examiner as soon as possible of the solicitor having done so.
The further evidence on which [the appellant] seeks to rely in the appeal includes the kind of self-serving reconstruction with the benefit of hindsight with which judges are familiar ...
101 Briefs which must be refused or must be returned
A barrister must refuse to accept or retain a brief or instructions to appear before a court if:
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(d) the barrister has reasonable grounds to believe that the barrister may, as a real possibility, be a witness in the case,
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(f) the barrister has reasonable grounds to believe that the barrister's own personal or professional conduct may be attacked in the case ...
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105 Briefs which may be refused or returned
A barrister may refuse or return a brief to appear before a court:
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(g) if the barrister's advice as to the preparation or conduct of the case, not including its compromise, has been rejected or ignored by the instructing solicitor or the client, as the case may be ...
[Counsel for the mother]: Your Honour, I have instructions that I'm able to remain in the matter for the purposes of cross-examination and for taking objections on a legal basis as may arise ...
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[Counsel for the mother]: Your Honour, I will remain in the matter until the cross-examination finishes.
(Transcript 12 March 2025, p.157 lines 23-25, p.159 lines 1-2)
HIS HONOUR: So from my perspective, [counsel for the mother] was doing what was appropriate, namely engage with the bench. I don't have a precise note of whether he objected to any questions, but certainly when I asked him questions he responded ...
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HIS HONOUR: Well, we had this conversation yesterday. The conversation that we had and the course that you consented to at that juncture was that [counsel for the mother] could sit there and make relevant objections, and from what I have observed, he has conducted his job appropriately in the sense that he has engaged with me when I have asked him questions ...
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HIS HONOUR: ... I'm recording for the transcript that there is nothing that [counsel for the mother] has done in terms of the conduct of your cross-examination which would cause you to terminate his services now.
(Transcript 13 March 2025, p.285 lines 4-7; p.286 lines 5-9; p.288 lines 17-19)
HIS HONOUR: No. All right. Madam, is it the case that you wish to terminate the services of [counsel for the mother] and his solicitor even for the limited purposes of objecting to evidence?
[The mother]: Yes, please, your Honour ...
(Transcript 13 March 2025, p.284 lines 3-7)
The objects of this Part are:
(a) to ensure that the best interests of children are met, including by ensuring their safety; and
(b) to give effect to the Convention on the Rights of the Child done at New York on 20 November 1989.
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60CA Child's best interests paramount consideration in making a parenting order
In deciding whether to make a particular parenting order in relation to a child, a court must regard the best interests of the child as the paramount consideration.
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Consistent with Raby, what was required of [the primary judge], to which he did not attend, was to engage in a process that evaluated the natural development of the child, and the self-protectiveness that comes with such maturity, as well as the diminishing powers the [father] will have over the children as they mature including prior to attaining 18 years of age. [The primary judge] failed to properly engage in considering the long-term interests of the children.
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In making the "spend time with" orders, [the primary judge] failed to give proper effect to best interest principles of [the Act] as he failed to consider the ongoing maturation of each child and whether a permanent supervised contact regime met the paramount best interest of the children and their rights to maintain personal relations and direct contact with the [mother] on a regular basis outside of the immediate and short-term. Such an approach engaged error in the Court below.
(Mother's Summary of Argument filed 28 July 2025)
[Counsel for the father]: ... Is it realistic that the court would be able to confidently make an order for a reintroduction of time between the children and the mother, after that time period?
[The single expert]: I accept full well that that recommendation is idealised - - -
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[Counsel for the father]: Yes. And in terms of the information that his Honour has before him, I'm suggesting that perhaps serious consideration might need to be given to there being no order for reintroduction?
[The single expert]: Yes.
[Counsel for the father]: And if there is, it may need to be supervised time only?
[The single expert]: Agreed.
[Counsel for the father]: If there were to be an order for supervised time only, is this the type of case where that supervised time would be in the form of identity contact, four or six times a year, or would it be frequent, fortnightly, weekly?
[The single expert]: I think that the greater frequency that that contact occurs, the more pressure it will place on the children, the more difficulties it will create for them and for their mother. So if the Court was minded to make long term orders that the children were to remain in the care of their father with him having primary responsibility, I would suggest for identity purposes - as in four times a year, six times a year ...
(Transcript 14 March 2025, p.323 lines 4-7; lines 15-28) (Emphasis added)
(a) While the protection of the child from harm may be secured by the requirement of supervision, the court should not ignore the effect of spending time with a parent in such an environment may itself have an effect on the child's well-being;
(b) It is both legitimate and necessary that the court give consideration to:
(i) any recommendations of a family report writer;
(ii) the practical difficulties; and
(iii) the long term effects;
of long-term supervision upon a child (i.e. their best interests).
I certify that the preceding ninety-nine (99) numbered paragraphs are a true copy of the Reasons for Judgment of the Honourable Justices Austin, Baumann & Williams.
Aon Risk Services Aust Ltd v ANU (2009) 239 CLR 175; [2009] HCA 27
Australian Coal and Shale Employees' Federation v The Commonwealth (1953) 94 CLR 621; [1953] HCA 25
Bloch v Bloch (1981) 180 CLR 390; [1981] HCA 56
Bondelmonte v Bondelmonte (2017) 259 CLR 662; [2017] HCA 8
CDJ v VAJ (1998) 197 CLR 172; [1998] HCA 67
D'Orta-Ekenaike v Victorian Legal Aid (2005) 223 CLR 1; [2005] HCA 12
Dietrich v The Queen (1992) 177 CLR 292; [1992] HCA 57
Gallo v Dawson (1990) 93 ALR 479; [1990] HCA 30
Gerlach v Clifton Bricks Pty Ltd (2002) 209 CLR 478; [2002] HCA 22
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Gronow v Gronow (1979) 144 CLR 513; [1979] HCA 63
Jago v District Court (NSW) (1989) 168 CLR 23; [1989] HCA 46
Mawhinney v Australian Securities and Investments Commission and Ors (2022) 294 FCR 375; [2022] FCAFC 159
Minister for Immigration and Border Protection v SZSSJ (2016) 259 CLR 180; [2016] HCA 29
Sali v SPC Ltd (1993) 116 ALR 625; [1993] HCA 47
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(1989) 17 NSWLR 553
(1990) 93 ALR 479
(2002) 209 CLR 478
(2023) 414 ALR 635
(2022) 294 FCR 375
(2006) 228 CLR 152
(2020) 282 FCR 95
(2013) 48 Fam LR 573
(2009) 239 CLR 175
(2017) 259 CLR 662
(2005) 223 CLR 1
(1979) 144 CLR 513
(1953) 94 CLR 621
(1981) 180 CLR 390
(1998) 197 CLR 172
(1992) 177 CLR 292
(1989) 168 CLR 23
(2016) 259 CLR 180
(1993) 116 ALR 625
(2002) 212 CLR 124
(2002) 211 CLR 238