[2024] FWC 5
General information, not legal advice.
Fair Work Commission
2024-01-02
Original judgment source is linked above.
s.739 - Application to deal with a dispute
"Automotive, Food, Metals, Engineering, Printing and Kindred Industries Union" known as the Australian Manufacturing Workers' Union (AMWU)
Opal Packaging Australia Pty Ltd T/A Opal Fibre Packaging
Application to deal with a dispute arising under an enterprise agreement - jurisdictional objection - compliance with a dispute settlement procedure
5th December 2022 - Discussions/ meetings with Mr Horan
"I said again 'I'm not going upstairs without representation, this is not how its done in the EA. I'm entitled to representation.' [Mr Hutchinson] then said 'If you don't go, you will be stood down.' So then I thought, well, I'll try and deescalate the situation, I'll go to the meeting."
"Yup, all right no worries.' [Mr Horan] then left the room and slammed the door upon his exit at around 7.14am."[8]
We refer to the above matter and to the correspondence sent to our member dated 5th December 2022, letter attached. .
The letter states that Grant is required to attend a meeting via MS Teams on 7" December to "outline the specifics of allegations and the intended investigative process" . The email accompanying the letter is form Mathew Wilmore, a Workplace Relations Specialist, whose role, he states is to conduct in (sic) investigation into an incident on the 9th of November 2022. We are instructed that this is not the relevant manager or supervisor of Grant.
This is matter of concern to the AMWU and Grant as it appears that Opal has failed to adhere to the requirements in the Oraora Fibre National Enterprise Agreement in the process of how disciplinary matters are dealt with.
As you would be aware Annexure 4 of Agreement ( warning procedure) and Clause 17.3 require that the first discussions with an employee subject to disciplinary action is to be a manager/supervisor. We are instructed that this has not occurred as Grant was unable to nominate a relevant support person when asked to attend a meeting with his manager, Mr Hutchinson on 5th December. No alternative arrangements were put in place by the manager and he was sent home. The email and attached letter later that day is the first notice that Grant has had of this matter.
A letter from the investigator looking into "allegations" are premature and pre-emptive of the process. It contains no details of the alleged events being investigated ( which we maintain should not be occurring at this early stage) including the place, time, date of the incident.
This step by the company indicates that the Opal has potentially breached the disciplinary procedure set out clause 17.3 in addition to the Warning Procedure.
Clause 17.3 (b) requires that the relevant delegate at the site be informed of the purpose of the meeting be informed (sic) immediately after the employee is notified of any disciplinary action. Given that Grant is the relevant delegate at site and has been improperly notified of the potential disciplinary action being taken against him, it is necessary to ensure that he is able to have an appropriate support person with him during this process.
We advise that Grant will not be attending the meeting scheduled for the 7th November:
1. As he is unable to secure a support person to be available and;
2. Because Opal has not adhered to the Warning procedure, which require that the first discussions should be with his manager or supervisor so that he may understand the allegations made against him in a fair and transparent manner.
The Warning Procedure requires that managers/supervisors remain accountable for the using a consistent method to discipline employees. We are concerned that the steps taken by Opal against Grant, along with other employees who have been subject to truncated or non-existent disciplinary processes, indicate an attempt by Opal not just to circumvent the binding requirements of the enterprise agreement, but also serves only to send mixed messages to managers and supervisors about what the process should be.
Please inform your relevant employees of the requirement to adhere to the Warning Procedure. Michael Bull, organiser at the AMWU, cc'd into this email, may be contacted along with Grant to arrange an alternative date for the initial discussion with Grant's relevant manager.
Should Opal persist in actions that constitute a breach of the enterprise agreement, the AMWU reserves all of its rights to commence action in a court of competent jurisdiction.
7th December 2022 - phone conversation/email between Ms Cassin and Mr Hinds
"I recall the conversation. I was in another pretty extensive negotiation and I stepped out of it to take the call, and I recall the conversation because I was quite alarmed for Mr Horan not being provided with the information he needed to be provided."
"Mr Bonello, for the AMWU: Mr Hinds, on 7 December, you had an earlier discussion with Ms Cassin, before that email correspondence, didn't you?
Mr Hinds: As I recall, yes, I did. Brief, albeit.
Mr Bonello: And, Mr Hinds, it is the case that Ms Cassin, in the discussion earlier on that day, prior to the email correspondence, raised the issue with Mr Horan, didn't she?
Mr Hinds: This is a discussion that happened 12 months ago. I mean, I get about 50-odd phone calls a day. I cannot remember, verbatim, every phone call that I receive other than I know what my response is when I am called for such matters which is that we will follow the disciplinary process. So, I am the last person in that disciplinary process chain and, to my knowledge, the process wasn't followed, and I would have directed Ms Cassin back to the original process... that is not the first time that I've redirected it back to the commencement of the disputes resolution process.
Mr Bonello: So, Mr Hinds, it could be the case then that Ms Cassin did raise the dispute with you with regards to Mr Horan and you directed her to go back to the site level; is that correct?
Mr Hinds: If she raised it with me - like I said, I get multiple phone calls a day, this is 12 months ago. If she raised it with me, I would have redirected her back to the site so that we follow the disciplinary process.
Mr Bonello: So, it was clear to you, Mr Hinds, that Ms Cassin didn't share your views? She had different views to you?
Mr Hinds: I can't remember the phone call verbatim, but it's highly probable."
As discussed today. Just want to confirm that the company will send all allegations in writing to amwu and evidence/statements before meeting with Grant Horan"
"The purpose of tomorrow's meeting with Grant is to get Grant's version of what occurred.
Once the investigator collects Grants version and asseses (sic) the matter, we will then provide Grant... with all the evidence and statements.
"I will now review your statement and meet with Management to discuss what has transpired and what we believe is a fair outcome.
I will then forward on the investigation report and supporting documents.
"Please provide all the relevant information and details of the matters that are related to this disciplinary issue by COB tomorrow to permit [Mr Horan] and his representatives to assess and provide a response, if necessary. Please note that the investigation and the findings must not be finalised until consideration is given to the matters raised by [Mr Horan]...
AWMU (sic) considers the failure to adhere the(sic) disciplinary process constitutes a breach of the provision of the enterprise agreement and reserve our rights to commence action without further notice to you."
At this meeting you will be supplied with the relevant documentation relied upon in the investigation and you will be given the opportunity to review the documents."
The Dispute Resolution Procedure and Relevant Legal Principles
The dispute resolution clause will be used if there is a dispute in relation to all matters which pertain to the relationship between the parties and the Union/s covered by this Agreement. For the sake of clarity this may include any dispute arising in relation to the following:
(a) a dispute in relation to a matter under this Agreement;
(b) a dispute in relation to any workplace industrial policy, practice or procedure
(c) a dispute in relation to any amendment or termination, or proposed amendment or termination of this Agreement or workplace policy or procedure, or any bargaining or negotiating for, or making of, a new agreement or workplace policy or procedure;
(d) the Awards referred to at sub-clause 3 (b) and any other incorporated instrument;
The following procedure for the avoidance or resolution of a dispute shall apply:
(a) At any stage during this dispute's process an employee is entitled to appoint a Union representative, including a Union delegate, or any other representative as requested by the employee, to act on their behalf.
(b) In the first instance the parties will attempt to resolve the matter at the workplace by discussions between the employee or employees concerned and the relevant supervisor/manager.
(c) If such discussions do not resolve the dispute, discussions between the employee or employees concerned with the Regional or Branch Secretary or their nominated representative and more senior levels of management will take place.
(d) If the dispute cannot be resolved at a workplace level, the National Secretary or their nominated representative will have discussions with a more senior representative of the Company.
(e) If a dispute is unable to be resolved at the workplace, and all agreed steps for resolving it have been taken, the dispute may be referred to the FWC for resolution by mediation and/or conciliation.
(f) If FWC is unable to resolve the dispute by way of mediation and/or conciliation and where the matter in dispute remains unresolved, the parties will have the matter heard by the FWC by way of arbitration.
(a) It is a term of this agreement that while the dispute resolution procedure is being followed work shall continue normally and the status quo remain unless an employee has a reasonable concern about an imminent risk to his or her health or safety or the company has a concern about an imminent risk to the health or safety of any employee.
(b) While the dispute resolution procedure is being followed, work in the area affected will remain as it was at the initiation of the dispute.
(c) For the avoidance of doubt, no employee's duties, shift, occupation or income will be changed during this process.
The parties must co-operate to ensure that the disputes resolution procedures are carried out as quickly as possible. Additionally, the parties agree that should the matter be notified in FWC, the parties will jointly seek to expedite the matter, by requesting FWC to give it priority.
"The terms of a procedure for resolving disputes should not themselves be construed in a manner that turns them into an instrument for generating disputes as to whether the procedure itself has been followed. Such provisions must be construed having regard to their evident purpose as providing a mechanism by which to encourage discussion and resolution. They should be interpreted 'practically and with an eye to common sense' having regard to the context in which they will be applied so that they can be implemented 'in a clear way on a day-to-day basis at work sites'."
"That minimum content, it is concluded, is that there needed to be an occasion on which those participating in the meetings had to know that there were opposing views being expressed and that those opposing views needed to be resolved. It is not necessary, with respect, for those participating in the meeting or discussion to know that they were participating in a meeting which formed part of a dispute resolution procedure."
Overview of Parties' Submissions in Relation to Compliance with the DRP
15.2(b) In the first instance the parties will attempt to resolve the matter at the workplace by discussions between the employee or employees concerned and the relevant supervisor/manager.
Did the Horan/Hutchinson Discussion meet Step 1 of the DRP?
".... it is possible that [the process] may begin with a question or an inquiry. It is not the case that the dispute resolution procedure is confined to what is to occur if the parties are already in dispute. Nor does it contemplate the articulation of a point in the form of a claim and response at each step in the process."
15.2(c) If such discussions do not resolve the dispute, discussions between the employee or employees concerned with the Regional or Branch Secretary or their nominated representative and more senior levels of management will take place.
Did the Horan/Edwards/Chew Meeting meet Step 2 of the DRP?
Did the Devasia/Beales email 6 December 2022 meet Step 2 of the DRP?
"We hereby start the process of the dispute resolution according to section 45 of the EBA.
"from the perspective of the party who has raised a matter for discussion but meets a blank wall, the matter is unresolved and that party may move to step two....
It could hardly be the case that, for the employees or the Union acting on their behalf, the process languishes at step one unless and until the [Company] communicates in some way with the employees...."
Did the phone conversation and/or emails between Ms Cassin and Mr Hinds meet any steps in the DRP?
Opal's other arguments relating to jurisdiction and scope of the dispute

[2] Witness Statement of Steven Hutchinson, paragraph 6.
[4] Witness Statement of Steven Hutchinson, paragraph 7.
[6] Witness Statement of Grant Horan, paragraph 8.
[7] Witness Statement of Melissa Chew, paragraph 7.
[12] Transcript 28 November 2023, PN302.
[13] Supplementary Witness Statement of Lorraine Cassin, paragraph 3. See also Transcript 28 November 2023, PN298.
[14] Witness Statement of Brad Hinds, paragraph 6.
[15] Transcript 28 November 2023, PN363-358.
[17] See Transcript 28 November 2023, Cassin at PN307 and Hinds at PN354
[18] Witness Statement of Michael Bull, paragraphs 4-7 and Witness statement of Melissa Chew, Annexure MC-2 -Contemporaneous notes.
[22] The Australian Workers' Union v MC Labour Services Pty Ltd [2017] FWCFB 5032 at [39]
[23] Maersk Crewing Australia Pty Ltd v Construction, Forestry, Maritime, Mining and Energy Union (No 2) [2020] FCA 1694
[24] See for example in relation to emails Maersk Crewing Australia Pty Ltd v Construction, Forestry, Maritime, Mining and Energy Union (No 2) [2020] FCA 1694 at [101].
[25] Qantas Airways Ltd v Australian Licensed Aircraft Engineers Association (No 2) [2020] FCA 951 at 70
[26] Australian Licensed Aircraft Engineers Association v Quantas Airways Limited [2022] FCAFC 50
[27] Transcript 20 November 2023 PN116.
[28] Transcript 20 November 2023 PN 118-120 and PN 128-132.
[29] Transcript 20 November 2023 PN238.
[33] Maersk Crewing Australia Pty Ltd v Construction, Forestry, Maritime, Mining and Energy Union (No 2) [2020] FCA 1694 at [86]
[34] Transcript 20 November 2023 PN145.
[35] Transcript 20 November 2023 PN147-150.
[38] Witness Statement of Steven Hutchinson, paragraph 9, annexure SH-1.
[42] Transcript 20 November 2023, PN159.
[43] Transcript 20 November 2023 PN156-157.
[46] Maersk Crewing Australia Pty Ltd v Construction, Forestry, Maritime, Mining and Energy Union (No 2) [2020] FCA 1694 at [18]
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"Automotive, Food, Metals, Engineering, Printing and Kindred Industries Union" known as the Australian Manufacturing Workers' Union (AMWU)
Opal Packaging Australia Pty Ltd T/A Opal Fibre Packaging [2024] FWC 5