[2023] FWC 217
General information, not legal advice.
Fair Work Commission
2023-01-24
Original judgment source is linked above.
s.236 - Majority support determination
Association of Professional Engineers, Scientists and Managers Australia T/A Collieries Staff Division
Application for a Majority Support Determination.
Application and preliminary analysis of support for bargaining
"1. The proposed agreement will cover staff employees employed by Ensham Resources Pty Ltd at and from the black coal mine known as the Ensham Coal Mine in the following classifications/positions (Group):
(a) the name of the 1 employee, who cast a "yes" vote but is not on Ensham's revised list; and
(b) the names of 4 employees who are not on Ensham's revised list.
"It would appear that there may be a disparity between the time of the taking of the two lists which have been submitted by the respective parties to the Commission.
The confidential list submitted by my client was a list taken at the time of the ballot (May 2022). It appears that the confidential list submitted by the company may not be a list reflective of the same time period (May 2022) but instead reflective of a period at or around the time of the Commission's request (August 2022). As such, it may be the case that there is not a like-for-like comparison being conducted for the purposes of determining the majority which may explain some of the discrepancy in numbers. My client intends to raise this issue at the next directions hearing and will request that the respondent clarify the time period which its list covers as the parties move to further program the matter to allow for determination."
"I am currently an employee of Ensham Resources Pty Ltd and I was an employee between 4 and 11 May 2022. I am employed in the position of:
I wish to bargain for an enterprise agreement with my employer. I confirm that I did not cast a ballot when voting was open between 4 and 11 May 2022. By signing this document, I confirm that I was supportive of the commencement of bargaining between 4 and 11 May 2022 and I remain supportive of the commencement of bargaining with my employer for an enterprise agreement.
(1) A bargaining representative of an employee who will be covered by a proposed single enterprise agreement may apply to the FWC for a determination (a majority support determination) that a majority of the employees who will be covered by the agreement want to bargain with the employer, or employers, that will be covered by the agreement.
(a) the employer, or employers, that will be covered by the agreement; and
(b) the employees who will be covered by the agreement."
"237 When the FWC must make a majority support determination
(1) The FWC must make a majority support determination in relation to a proposed single enterprise agreement if:
(a) an application for the determination has been made; and
(b) the FWC is satisfied of the matters set out in subsection (2) in relation to the agreement.
Matters of which the FWC must be satisfied before making a majority support determination
(i) who are employed by the employer or employers at a time determined by the FWC; and
(b) the employer, or employers, that will be covered by the agreement have not yet agreed to bargain, or initiated bargaining, for the agreement; and
(c) that the group of employees who will be covered by the agreement was fairly chosen; and
(d) it is reasonable in all the circumstances to make the determination.
(3) For the purposes of paragraph (2)(a), the FWC may work out whether a majority of employees want to bargain using any method the FWC considers appropriate.
(3A) If the agreement will not cover all of the employees of the employer or employers covered by the agreement, the FWC must, in deciding for the purposes of paragraph (2)(c) whether the group of employees who will be covered was fairly chosen, take into account whether the group is geographically, operationally or organisationally distinct.
(4) The determination comes into operation on the day on which it is made."
"It is at the discretion of FWA what method it uses to work out whether a majority of the employees want to bargain (subclause 237(3)). Methods might include a secret ballot, survey, written statements or a petition. A majority support determination comes into operation on the day on which it is made (subclause 237(4))."[16]
"[14] ... there is no merit to the proposition advanced in connection with the first appeal ground that s 237(2)(a), read with s 237(3), requires the Commission to take steps to determine for itself whether or not a majority of relevant employees want to bargain. The task of the Commission in respect of a majority support determination application is set out in plain terms in s 237(2): the Commission must determine whether it is satisfied as to the four matters specified, including that a majority of relevant employees want to bargain. If this state of satisfaction is reached, section 237(1) requires a majority support determination to be made. There is nothing in section 237 which requires the Commission to take any particular step in order to determine whether it has reached the requisite state of satisfaction. Section 237(3), as already stated, is plainly cast in discretionary terms, and it would do violence to the language of the provision to read it as requiring the Commission to take some positive step itself to "work out whether a majority of employees want to bargain".
[15] The discretionary character of s 237(3), as well as s 590(1), means that it will usually be open to a Commission member to determine whether they are satisfied in relation to s 237(2)(a) on the basis of the evidence and submissions put by the parties before the Commission. There may be a range of circumstances which might justify the exercise of the discretion in s 237(3) to order a ballot or some other means to assess the existence of majority support, including whether the applicant has advanced a "reasonable hypothesis" supported by evidence that majority support exists (see INPEX Australia Pty Ltd v AWU [2020] FWCFB 5321, 201 IR 424 at [11]), but no authority supports the conclusion that the s 237(3) is to be construed as compelling the Commission to exercise power under the provision merely because an applicant requests that it do so..." (Footnotes omitted)
"The power to apply a time-based limitation is confined to section 237(2)(a)(i) and not section 237(2)(a) more broadly. That is, the power to apply a point-in-time limitation in section 237(2)(a)(i) is directed to fixing the time at which the FWC is to determine who are the persons employed only. Therefore, it does not confer a broader power to "fix" historical or future points in time for other aspects of section 237.
"... there may be found in the subject matter, scope and purpose of nearly every statute conferring power to make an administrative decision an implication that the decision is to be made on the basis of the most current material available to the decision-maker."
Applying Peko-Wallsend, it follows that the decision as to whether a majority of employees want to bargain is to be made on the basis of the most current material available at the time of the decision. Having considered all of the submissions and authorities filed by the parties, we agree that it was not open to the Commissioner to determine a point in time other than the time of the decision as the time at which a majority of employees could be said to want to bargain. As such, we are not satisfied that it was open to the Commissioner to reach the determination that he reached.
Therefore, we are of the view that the Commissioner did not take into account a material consideration in the House v The King sense, namely, the most current available information to him at the time in determining whether a majority of employees wanting to bargain existed...(footnotes omitted)."
"[8] A member's decision as to whether or not they are satisfied that the group of employees covered by the agreement was 'fairly chosen' involves a degree of subjectivity or value judgment. Hence, in a broad sense that decision can be characterised as a discretionary decision...
[10] The Tribunal's first task under s.186(3) is to establish whether the agreement covers all of the employees of the employer(s) covered by the agreement. If all of the employees are covered then s.186(3A) is irrelevant but the Tribunal must still decide whether the group of employees covered by the agreement (ie. all of the employers' employees) was 'fairly chosen'. In some circumstances it may not be fair to choose all of the employees of an employer as the group to be covered by an agreement. 6 If all of the employees are not covered then the Tribunal must make a finding as to whether the group of employees covered by the agreement is geographically, operationally or organisationally distinct. Absent such a finding the Tribunal cannot properly perform its statutory task.7 Section 186(3A) provides that the Tribunal must take that matter (ie. whether the group is geographically, operationally or organisationally distinct) into account and give it due weight, having regard to all other relevant factors. Finally, the Tribunal must state its reasons for concluding that the group of employees either was or was not fairly chosen.
[11] At issue in these proceedings is the proper construction of the expression "fairly chosen" in s.186(3). The starting point is to construe the words according to their ordinary meaning having regard to their context and purpose.
[12] The words "fairly" and "chosen" have a variety of meanings, depending on the context. The Oxford Dictionary defines "chosen" to mean, among other things, "taken by preference, selected, picked out". The word "chosen" in the context of s.186(3) simply means selected to be covered by the relevant agreement.
[13] The word "fairly" is derived from the adverb "fair" and is a word of wide import. What is fair in a particular context is largely a matter of impression and judgment. Of the various definitions of "fairly" in The Oxford Dictionary the most apt in this context are:
"by proper means, legitimately, impartially, justly"; and
"with due regard to equity, candidly, impartially; without undue advantage on either side."
[15] ...In circumstances where an agreement does not cover all of the employees of the employer(s) covered by the agreement s.186(3A) imposes an obligation on FWA, in deciding whether the employees were 'fairly chosen', to 'take into account' whether the group of employees covered by the agreement is geographically, operationally or organisationally distinct.
[19] ...that if the group of employees covered by the agreement are geographically, operationally or organisationally distinct then that would be a factor telling in favour of a finding that the group of employees was fairly chosen. Conversely, if the group of employees covered by the agreement was not geographically, operationally or organisationally distinct then that would be a factor telling against a finding that the group was fairly chosen.
[20] It is important to appreciate that whether or not the group of employees covered by the agreement is geographically, operationally or organisationally distinct is not decisive, rather it is a matter to be given due weight, having regard to all other relevant considerations.
[21] It is not appropriate to seek to exhaustively identify what might be the other relevant considerations. They will vary from case to case and will need to be demonstrated to the satisfaction of the tribunal. The word 'fairly' suggests that the selection of the group was not arbitrary or discriminatory. For example, selection based upon employee characteristics such as date of employment, age or gender would be unlikely to be fair. Similarly, selection based on criteria which would have the effect of undermining collective bargaining or other legislative objectives would also be unlikely to be fair. It is also appropriate to have regard to the interests of the employer, such as enhancing productivity, and the interests of employees in determining whether the group of employees was fairly chosen. In this regard, it is not only the interests of the employees covered by the agreement that are relevant; the interests of those employees who are excluded from the coverage of the agreement are also relevant."
"Distinctiveness is not absolute and can be a matter of degree. Distinctiveness on one of those bases is a factor telling in favour of a finding that the group is fairly chosen. Conversely if the group of employees is not geographically, operationally or organisationally distinct, then that is a factor telling against a finding that the group is fairly chosen. Whether or not a group is organisationally, operationally or geographically distinct is not decisive but rather is a matter to be given due weight having regard to all of the other circumstances.
...where the group is not geographically, operationally or organisationally distinct, it is necessary to identify what, if any, factors outweigh the absence of such characteristics and to give significant weight to the lack of distinctiveness in deciding whether the group was fairly chosen."[21]
PIN [A four-digit PIN was provided to each individual voter]."
"We, the undersigned employees of Ensham Resources Pty Ltd who are employed in the following positions:
Wish to bargain for an enterprise agreement under the Fair Work Act 2009 (Cth).
In signing this majority support determination, we the undersigned understand that this document may be provided to the Fair Work Commission on a confidential basis for the purposes of support a majority support application."
employees to indicate support for the agreement was similar to the Vero process adopted by APESMA as outlined above, albeit a different third-party provider was engaged.
"Can I put to you that the question which was put is inherently misleading because it asks employees: "We, the undersigned employees of Ensham, who are employed in the following positions..." and sets those out, when, in truth, as you have identified, those positions are not known by those names at Ensham, so it's inherently misleading to have not used the naming conventions which apply at Ensham. You would agree with that?
I don't agree it's misleading at all. The naming conventions in the industry are what they are, they're conventions. The members in the workforce that we're dealing with here are very highly experienced workers and they would understand - they would have been, you know, at a different mine two years ago doing the exact same job function and called an undermanager; they would have been in a role three years ago at a completely similar asset with the same name or a different name. They're pretty common, and I would say it would be a big stretch to say that anyone in the workforce that we're trying to bargain for would be confused by common industry terms.
The position of APESMA is that in posing the question for the group to vote on, that was premised on an assumption of their understanding about industry nomenclature; that's your evidence?
I wouldn't say an assumption. They wouldn't be in the positions that they're in if they weren't highly experienced.
So you say they're highly experienced, so therefore they know. Can I put to you that that is an assumption? Once again, Mr Humphreys, we have not - or I have not personally received any communications saying that anyone was confused."[31]
"... Could I put to you that the question which is put is again misleading because the reference to mechanical engineer, electrical engineer, mining engineer, which is broad, could cover the various roles to which I have taken you and to which you have identified that an engineering qualification is possible or indeed in some cases I think likely? - I don't agree with the proposition is misleading because I think that the average member of the workforce would interpret the question as, 'Do I perform these functions in my day-to-day role?' If they are obviously fortunate enough to have completed an engineering degree and they're in a different team, if they're not performing the functions of an engineer you would assume that they wouldn't vote as an engineer or cast a decision as an engineer.
Again you used the word "assumption". That underpinned your whole response, didn't it? That was an assumption you made? Yes.
Can I put to you that in particular the mechanical superintendent MEM and the electrical superintendent MEM, who you indicated I think were more than likely to have an engineering qualification, actually work as engineers in their role? Yes, you can put that to me, but I would like to preface that the major concern with - obviously not a concern, the major rationale for not seeking a cohort with them is because on (indistinct) they're considered senior management which is pretty standard within the industry, Mr Humphreys, and I would put it back, as well, and say that most employers don't seek to have MEMs or EEMs within agreements even if you do get the scope to cover them.
So if I understand that answer, your suggestion or your assumption is that when a coal mine worker went to vote on this and saw the group as being made up of mechanical engineers, that coal mine worker was to in some way divine that it was - the group represented there did not include those people in yellow who perform day to day engineering functions? If we sought to include superintendents within the cohort, Mr Humphreys, we would have to be very clear about that with the members, mainly because obviously there is a senior management function there, so I would say if we did seek to cover them in our cohort I would have been very explicit about that fact.
And you would have been very explicit because you know it's important for people when they vote to have clarity as to the group they're voting for? Yes."[32]
"Now, can I put to you that if a person had not voted and received a phone call from you asking them to vote, I'll put it in neutral terms, that would disclose to the person that the vote was not at that point confidential? I think you're getting confused about the confidentiality question. The confidentiality question and the reason we put it in that statement is not confidentiality in the sense of obviously if you're a union member, we know your contact details, we know where you work, what position you're in. The confidentiality question is a question of whether or not their details and how they decided to cast their independent vote and whether or not that would be supplied to their employer and so
Mr Gallagher, you've given evidence previously that the confidentiality of the voting process was an important part of the integrity of the process? Yes.
What I'm putting to you is that by gaining access during the period of the vote to the names of the people who'd voted and therefore allowing you to work out who hadn't voted, is a gross breach of the confidentiality of the voting process? I disagree because if I've done handwritten petitions and I would see the names and details of the people on the handwritten petitions as well. It is a common practice when you're going for a majority support determination to come through."[33]
"We are instructed that the list provided by our client was current as at the date it was provided to the Commission. We are further instructed that our client is still investigating whether there has been any change to the cohort since that time, and we will respond on that issue in due course. However, our client anticipates that any changes will be minimal."
By signing the below document you are providing authority to the Association of Professional Engineers, Scientists and Managers Australia (Collieries' Staff Division) to provide this document to the Fair Work Commission on a confidential basis.
This will be done to indicate your support for collectively bargaining with your employer (Ensham Resources Pty Ltd).
I am currently an employee of Ensham Resources Pty Ltd and I was an employee between 4 and 11 May 2022. I am employed in the position of
I wish to bargain for an enterprise agreement with my employer. I confirm that I did not cast a ballot when voting was open between 4 and 11 May 2022.
By signing this document, I confirm that I was supportive of the commencement of bargaining between 4 and 11 May 2022 and I remain supportive of the commencement of bargaining with my employer for an enterprise agreement.
(a) The Group work in the underground operations and are all recognised at the ERPL Stratum I level and have designed reporting lines consistent with the Chart;
(b) The Group are all in roles associated with the planning, production, execution and or supervision associated with underground coal mining;
(c) The Group work in the underground operation as distinct from any employees in the Open Cut operation or office administration. There are significant differences between the open cut and underground highlighting the distinctiveness of each operation which includes the following:
- The Coal Mining Act and the associated regulations create a distinction between ERZ Controllers (required underground) and Open Cut Examiners (required for open cut mining).
- The machinery used between the two operation has significant differences. For example, the open cut mine uses draglines where the underground mine uses continuous miners.
- The coal in the open cut is extracted from at or near the surface whereas underground the coal is extracted from deep beneath the surface requiring workers to spend their shift deep beneath the surface. The underground workers work in confined spaces, operate in tunnels, must be familiar with geological conditions, tend to take their breaks underground and there is generally limited to no interaction between the open cut and underground staff. The conditions between the open cut and underground are markedly different as a result.
- There are different tests required for employees working in the open cut and underground. The inductions are different.
- Open-cut coal operations involve significant disturbance of the above ground surface. Principally, this involves the extensive removal of layers soil and rock debris to expose the coal seams for mining. This involves the use of different methods, techniques and machinery to that used underground.
- Ensham Resources owns a dragline open-cut, with one unactive dragline. The exposed commodity is then transitioned for processing via the use of excavators and trucks for processing and export.
- Ensham Resources has developed haul roads for the open-cut operation which are separate to the underground operation, each operations utilise separate main entrances and office facilities.
- Ensham's current open-cut operation is not producing, with the mine set to be placed into care and maintenance.
- The underground mine is a "bord and pillar operation" with continuous miner production units producing coal and sending it to the surface stockpile via a series of conveyor belts.
- Underground coal production limits the disruption to the surface with majority of production and disturbance occurring under the surface. This presents significantly different operational requirements, work environments and potential workplace hazards.
- The composition of the workforce and the skills required can be contrasted to show a distinct separation. This is especially clear when viewing the mines within the context of the skills and requirements imposed by the Coal Mining Act on each operation.
- Given the current operations at the open-cut, the distinction can also be made that the underground mine is the only fully operational mine at the current site.
(d) The Group is focussed on delivering the production of the asset (coal) as opposed to the administration and associated functions. The Group are recognised internally according to the Chart as being in separate and distinct line of management.
(e) Every employee at the Mine is technically accountable to the SSE. However, on a practical level, there are intermediate managers that employees report to ahead of the SSE. The Group are recognised internally as being in a distinct group reporting one level up to the Underground Mining Manager and the Underground Maintenance Manager, as compared with the other ERPL roles which report through Surface Operations Manager, Health, Safety & Environment Systems Manager and Commercial Manager.
(f) There is a clear geographical distinction between the underground mining operations, the open cut operations, and the administration side of the business with the Group focussed on the underground operations only as compared with the other employees whose focus is on other functions within the business. Some of the employees in administration roles, that is those who report to the Commercial Manager, work from home and are not necessarily present on site. With respect to the open cut operations, from my observations there are separate entry and exit points. There is a separate carpark for the underground and open cut areas. The open cut and underground have different crib areas. The administration staff or open cut staff do not take their crib underground (or have any reason to ever be underground) whereas the Group do. There is limited interaction between the open cut and underground staff.
(g) The Group is likely to pursue different conditions and entitlements than someone in the office or open cut. For example, the Group, will likely pursue disability allowances associated with the conditions in which they work underground such as dirt money, wet money, and confined spaces allowances which are not common to open cut and administration roles. There are also different performance metrics between underground and open-cut employees which may influence what is pursued in bargaining.
(h) The work demands and patterns between the Group and other employees is distinct. The office-based staff in the ERPL Stratum I classification primarily workday work across a Monday to Friday roster pattern whereas a lot of the Group would work on a rotating shift roster.
(i) The nomination of the Group had been the subject of extensive discussion and consultation with employees and our APESMA employee representatives. The Group was nominated after discussions in which members of the Group indicated that they would like to pursue a common enterprise agreement."
for size. It is then loaded onto trains through the Rail Load-Out Facility and transported via rail to Gladstone Port for shipping and to the Gladstone Power Station for domestic electricity generation.
Stratum 4 is the most senior Stratum and comprises me, as the General Manager Operations/SSE given I have ultimate responsibility for safety and operations at the Mine.
Stratum 1 roles work either a 5/2 roster or a 7/7 roster"
As stated in our original correspondence, both APESMA and the MEU are putting forward a scope to cover permanent production staff employees at the Ensham Underground Mine. This would include distinct employees within statutory positions recognised under the Coal Mining Health & Safety Act (CMHSA), trade qualified staff, engineers and production support staff related to the production and mining of black coal. These employees perform duties and responsibilities related to supervisory, production, safety, and planning roles.
This would not include administrative, financial, or human resource staff, whose employment is related servicing the internal processes of the site and not directly related to commodity output.
Therefore, we propose that the Agreement be titled 'Ensham Resources Production Staff Agreement 2022' and include the following positions which are directly employed by Ensham Resources.
"a. One new employee - Outbye Coordinator on 11 April 2022.
The work of the roles including and underneath the Health, Safety & Environment Systems Manager and Commercial Manager are integrated and integral parts of the overall operation of the Mine. The work of APESMA's Group and coal mining operations at the underground could not continue if the work of these roles were not performed.
The work of the roles including and underneath the Surface Operations Manager, are an integrated and integral part of the overall operation of the Mine. The work of APESMA's Group and coal mining operations at the underground could not continue if the work of these roles were not performed.
(a) It is only at this time that the Commission will have the benefit of the parties' submissions and will be able to assess the evidence.
(b) The Commission must make a decision about the "time" at which to test the majority based on all the information before it at the time of the final hearing. There is presently information before the Commission suggesting that there is currently no majority support. Accordingly, Ensham said that the Commission should not ignore that fact and select a different point in time to test whether a majority existed.
a) On the Vero "Declaration of Results", there is a diagram entitled "Fair Work Ombudsman Fact Sheet" which said there were no "no" votes, but on the same page it is noted there were two "no" votes;
b) The Vero "Declaration of Results" refers to a "petition", but there is no information as to the question which was put to employees and over what time period the "petition" occurred;
c) The Vero "Declaration of Results" refers to 57 "eligible" voters, but it is unclear who determined there were 57 eligible voters and the basis upon which they were deemed eligible.
d) There is no evidence to establish precisely how many people in APESMA's group attended discussions with APESMA in late 2021 and early 2022. APESMA did not hold discussions with all of APESMA's Group, but only "some". Only 20 employees (approximately) were in attendance at the meeting where a motion was passed to attempt to initiate bargaining for an enterprise agreement. Accordingly, Ensham submits that the Commission cannot be satisfied that reasonable efforts were made to ensure that all voters were properly informed prior to voting.
e) While APESMA contends that voters were provided with a copy of the "Fair Work Commission's fact sheet", the fact sheet is a broad overview of enterprise bargaining generally and does not mention "majority support determination" once or the effect of voting. APESMA could have provided an excerpt of the enterprise agreement bench book regarding majority support determinations, or a copy of the majority support determinations page on the Fair Work Commission website[43];
f) A single employee/MEU member provided an email in support of bargaining on 11 August 2022, some three months after the vote was counted. Two concerns arise:
(i) there is no evidence that reasonable efforts were made to ensure he/she was properly informed prior to voting, nor any evidence that he/she accessed the fact sheet from the Fair Work Commission or any other supporting material; and
(ii) there is no plausible explanation as to why the employee did not vote in the voting process. The lengthy delay and change of heart to cast a vote three months later is clear evidence that the period of time lapsed has the potential for voters in APESMA's Group to have changed their minds.
g) The MEU obtained statements from two employees who had supposedly not voted; however, it was later identified that one of those employees had already voted. Had that employee been properly informed and understood what was occurring when he submitted his/her vote, he/she would not have also provided a separate statement.
"777. It is intended that in assessing whether the group of employees covered by the agreement is fairly chosen, FWA might have regard to matters such as:
a) The Site Senior Executive (SSE) (Stratum 4) who is permanently located at the underground office yet goes underground from time to time.
b) All roles including and underneath the Underground Mining Manager and Underground Maintenance Manager, who are permanently located at the underground office but go underground from time to time. They work closely with APESMA's Group roles, coordinate work, and supervise Stratum 1 and 2 roles in the underground operations.
c) All roles including and underneath the HSECT Manager, who are permanently located at the underground office and work in the underground mine alongside APESMA's Group. Given the open cut operations have concluded, the focus of these roles is predominately on the underground operation.
d) All roles including and underneath the Commercial Manager, who are permanently located at the underground office. Again, given the open cut operations have concluded, the focus of these roles is predominately on the underground operation. These roles support APESMA's Group and other Stratum 2 and 3 roles at the underground.
e) The Senior Geologist (Stratum 2) reporting to the Surface Operations Manager, who works at the underground mine for coal quality and strata issues as and when required.
(a) APESMA's Group excludes a number of roles working in the underground production function, such as Superintendents, Underground Mining Manager, Underground Maintenance Manager.
(b) The majority of roles in APESMA's Group, being all roles except ERZ Controllers, Shift Supervisors / Undermanagers and Trade Supervisors, perform service/support functions in offices on the surface, utilising computer programs to plan work processes and schedule equipment and infrastructure maintenance or in the surface workshops, supervising the maintenance and servicing of equipment. However, APESMA's Group excludes other roles which provide direct services and support to the underground production function, many of which require substantial work to be performed underground, such as:
(i) two roles reporting to the Underground Mining Manager, being the Compliance Coordinator and UG Emergency Response Coordinator;
(ii) eight roles in HSECT responsible for safety and health matters and training to enable personnel to work at the underground mine;
(iii) three roles responsible for the provision of supplies for the underground mining operation;
(iv) the Senior Geologist in the surface operations who is responsible for identifying and assessing the location, quantity and quality of coal at the underground;
(v) roles responsible for providing maintenance services to the underground, including Stratum 2 roles and Maintenance Coordinator (Stratum 1) in the surface operations.
(c) APESMA's Group includes some roles that work at both the underground and surface operations, such as the Surveyors. However, APESMA's Group excludes other roles working across the surface operations, such as:
(i) the roles in paragraph (b)(i) to (b)(v) above; and
(ii) all roles including and underneath the HSECT Manager, Commercial Manager and Surface Operations Manager.
a) the overlap in responsibilities and tasks between employees in different Stratum levels;
b) some Stratum 1 roles reporting directly to Stratum 3 roles, such as the Emergency Response Coordinator and UG Compliance Coordinator;
c) Stratum 1 roles not working consistent rosters. Some work a 7/7 roster, and others work a 5/2 roster alongside Stratum 2-4 roles.
a) Maintenance Coordinator (Open Cut) (Stratum 1) and Conveyor, Outbye & Infrastructure Maintenance Coordinator (Underground) (Stratum 1).
b) Mechanical Superintendent/MEM (Underground) (Stratum 2) and Mechanical Superintendent/MEM (Open Cut) (Stratum 2) and direct reports.
a) All roles including and underneath the Underground Mining Manager and Underground Maintenance Manager. These roles are focussed on the production of coal at the underground directly, alongside Stratum 1 employees in APESMA's Group. The roles in APESMA's Group cannot operate without, and are dependent on, the listed roles.
b) All roles including and underneath the Surface Operations Manager. These roles are links in the larger supply chain for producing coal at the underground mine. Surface operations personnel maintain machinery and underground areas to enable underground mining to occur, and then assist with coal in preparation for export.
c) All roles including and underneath the HSECT Manager and Commercial Manager. These roles, like Maintenance Planners and Surveyors in APESMA's Group, are linked to the larger supply chain for producing coal at the underground mine.
Whether employer that will be covered has agreed to bargain
Whether a majority of employees who will be covered want to bargain
"The suggestion that APESMA had to maintain some sort of process where it was hands‑off in respect of the vote, where it couldn't know who had voted along the way or anything of that nature is entirely unrealistic when one considers the role of a registered organisation in this process, which is as the bargaining agent for employees.
The union isn't some sort of separate body like the Electoral Commission. It is absolutely entitled to be canvassing support, drumming up support, for enterprise bargaining.
Newsflash: this is what unions do. So there's nothing at all irregular in the idea of getting around to your members and saying, 'Come on, support this thing. Give us an expression of your support, because this is what we need to do to bargain. If we want to get past that first hurdle, here's what we need to do. We need to dot the I's and cross the T's through this process.' Nothing at all sinister about that process taking place."[60]
"These are employees who are highly qualified in the main, occupying positions where they have to be extremely astute about their roles, their obligations, compliance with legislative standards and their relationship within the safety structure of the mine. So the notion that somehow these employees would be misled because the terms that they use themselves to describes themselves, as Mr Gallagher gave evidence - using terms like 'trade supervisors' - the fact that one of these workers is going to somehow look at the term 'trade supervisor' and have a complete cerebral breakdown and be unable to comprehend what's going on when their representative who has been back and forth communicating with them about this process leading up to it, that is just entirely fantasy, as is the suggestion that Mr Gallagher communicating with employees to encourage them to make sure that they voted constituted pressure."
Whether group proposed by APESMA is fairly chosen
[42] For the Commission to reach a state of satisfaction necessary to make a majority support determination, it must be satisfied that the group was fairly chosen and in considering whether the group was fairly chosen, it must take into account, by virtue of s. 237(3A), whether the group is geographically, operationally or organisationally distinct. Distinctiveness is not absolute and can be a matter of degree. Distinctiveness on one of those bases is a factor telling in favour of a finding that the group is fairly chosen. Conversely if the group of employees is not geographically, operationally or organisationally distinct, then that is a factor telling against a finding that the group is fairly chosen. Whether or not a group is organisationally, operationally or geographically distinct is not decisive but rather is a matter to be given due weight having regard to all of the other circumstances.
[43] We accept the submission for the Appellant that it follows that where the group is not geographically, operationally or organisationally distinct, it is necessary to identify what, if any, factors outweigh the absence of such characteristics and to give significant weight to the lack of distinctiveness in deciding whether the group was fairly chosen.
"Both APESMA and the MEU are putting forward a scope to cover permanent production staff employees at the Ensham Underground Mine. This would include distinct employees within statutory positions recognised under the Coal Mining Health & Safety Act (sic), trade qualified staff, engineers and production support staff related to the production and mining of black coal. These employees perform duties and responsibilities related to supervisory, production, safety and planning roles.
This would not include administrative, financial, or human resource staff, whose employment is related [to] servicing the internal processes of the site and not directly related to commodity output."
Whether reasonable in the circumstances to make declaration

L Doust of Counsel instructed by AEN Legal for the Association of Professional Engineers, Scientists and Managers Australia.
A. Nash for the Construction, Forest, Maritime, Mining and Energy Union.
I. Humphreys of Ashurst for Ensham Resources Pty Ltd.
[1] Exhibit APESMA 1 at Annexures ZG1 and ZG2.
[14] Roy Morgan Research Ltd v K Baker [2014] FWCFB 1175 at [11]; Goffet v Recruitment National Pty Ltd [2009] AIRCFB 626 at [47].
[34] Exhibit APESMA 6 at pp 612-614 of the Court Book.
[35] INPEX Australia Pty Ltd v The Australian Workers' Union [2021] FWCFB 1038.
[36] The Australian Workers' Union v The Austral Brick Co Pty Ltd t/as Austral Bricks [2010] FWA 5819, [24].
[37] Media, Entertainment and Arts Alliance [2013] FWC 3231, [46]. See also The Broken Hill Town Employees' Union [2011] FWA 4331, where Commissioner Raffaelli noted that he was not prepared to restrict "at a time" to a particular day or to a particular time of day and Automotive, Food, Metals, Engineering, Printing and Kindred Industries known at the Australian Manufacturing Workers' Union v Christie Tea Pty Ltd [2011] FWA 6956 where Commissioner Hampton noted, at [25] that the appropriate reference point was the time of the decision.
[38] Media, Entertainment and Arts Alliance [2013] FWC 3231, [47]-[48].
[44] Communications, Electrical, Electronic, Energy, Information, Postal, Plumbing and Allied Services Union of Australia v South32 Worsley Alumina Pty Ltd v South32 Worsley Alumina Pty Ltd [2021] FWC 3784 at [139] (South32).
[45] Note: The drafting of section 183(3) as it appeared in the original Bill was amended by the Parliament prior to the Act being made. Ensham submits that the relevant matters referred to in paragraph 777 of the Explanatory Memorandum, however, remained effectively the same.
[46] QGC v The Australian Workers' Union [2017] FWCFB 1165 at [42] [47] (QGC); United Voice v MSS Security Pty Ltd [2019] FWC 6994 at [64] (MSS).
[48] APESMA v Mt Arthur Coal Pty Ltd [2018] FWC 2008, [26].
[49] INPEX Australia Pty Ltd v The Australian Workers' Union [2021] FWCFB 1038 (Inpex No. 2), [34].
[53] Application by Association of Professional Engineers, Scientists and Managers, Australia, The (215V) [2018] FWC 2008, [46].
[54] AWU v BP Refinery (Kwinana) Pty Ltd [2014] FWCFB 1476, [13].
[58] Exhibit Ensham 3 - Annexure AM-12.
[59] Exhibit Ensham 3 - Annexure AM-11 letter to Mr Gallager dated 20 June 2022.
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Ensham Resources Pty Ltd [2023] FWC 217