[2025] FWC 2686
General information, not legal advice.
Fair Work Commission
2025-09-11
Original judgment source is linked above.
[2025] FWC 2686 [Note: An appeal pursuant to s.604 (C2025/9645) was lodged against this decision.]
s.394 - Application for unfair dismissal remedy
Application for an unfair dismissal remedy - employee summarily dismissed for serious misconduct - whether dismissal consistent with Small Business Fair Dismissal Code - no reasonable basis for belief employee guilty of serious misconduct - whether dismissal harsh, unjust or unreasonable - no valid reason for dismissal - reinstatement not appropriate - compensation ordered
"Please find attached two letters of warning regarding your conduct within the business. Also attached is a formal request for information.
We have come to the unfortunate point in our working relationship where we have to take serious measures to try and restore the stability within the workplace.
The warnings outline the unacceptable and insubordinate behaviour that you have been displaying, and how we will work toward resolving them."
"This letter is to serve notice to you as a formal warning for you conduct towards the business owners this week.
On Thursday you were asked to only form up the concrete beam you were working on. I requested twice that you inform me of when you will be back this afternoon for a meeting to clear the air. You refused & demanded a third party to be present. I denied this request, as is my right, as it was not to be a disciplinary nor a dismissal meeting of which you were informed. You have ignored my requests & have not told me when you would be available to have this meeting.
This is the second time a meeting has been requested to discuss an incident and you have refused. The first time was on the 20/09/2024, which was requested by Toni after your inappropriate outburst. This is not acceptable behaviour. It is a blatant disregard of a direct request from your employer.
You have been asked previously (20/09/2024) to put any grievances you have in writing. You were asked again yesterday & refused. Your claims need to be expressed & backed by examples of what you are claiming is happening. This has not occurred. This is also not acceptable. These are request from your employer that you are ingnoring.
You are hereby requested to put into writing your issues and concerns that seem to be creating the tension and destabilisation within the team. You are then required to attend a meeting to discuss and resolve said issues, should you wish to have a support person present in this meeting, you may organise this. If you choose to bring a support person, you are required to inform us of who will be present 24 hours prior to the scheduled meeting.
If the points I have addressed in this formal warning are not improved upon or actioned within the coming week, then we will have no other option other than terminate your employment with our company.
We look forward to working towards an amicable solution to resolve these issues & continue your working relationship with Northern Rivers Pools." (Reproduced verbatim)
"This letter is to officially request that you disclose information surrounding a statement that you made to Toni on Thursday morning 06/02/2025.
During the course of your conversation with Toni that morning on site. You asked her if we had ever had any pools fail, then stated that you know of THREE pools which will soon fail.
This is a serious allegation and as the business owner I do not take such an allegation lightly.
I hereby request that you disclose which pools, and the reasons behind your allegations within 2 business days of this letter. Should you fail to do this, it will be considered gross misconduct and is sufficient grounds for your instant dismissal.
I expect to have an answer from you regarding this allegation by 5pm Tuesday 07/02/2025.
If by chance this was a false allegation that you have made as you were frustrated and angry, please respond in writing within 24 hours stating so." (Reproduced verbatim)
"The three pools i am concerned about our Bilambil Heights, the fire water connection at Goolmangar job, and the Casino job grant was talking about for a few years ago with the floor deviation." (Reproduced verbatim)
"We are still going to have a meeting. Tomorrow afternoon at 5pm is the time I am making it for. if you wish for a third party to be present then you can bring one. As requested you are to let us know in advance as to who that is. We will go through all the points written on your formal & informal warning letter. You position within our business has never been in jeopardy. It is now.
Things are going to be addressed & changes need to be made. If you are not willing to accept these changes then we will accept your resignation if that is what you decide to do." (Reproduced verbatim)
"I am at a loss for the sheer volume of false and misleading things you have wrote in emails towards me. You have knowingly engaged in behaviour that is not suitable.
I will need two weeks for my health and well being." (Reproduced verbatim)
"On Saturday the 08/02/2025 you were issued with a demand for disclosure of information letter. The reason for being issued with this letter is due to your refusal to answer my question of which 3 pools you know will fail.
WE do not accept your response for two of the three alleged issues.
1. The Horizon, We will accept even though we were fully aware of this issue and have been actively working with Leisure Pools to find a resolution to one of the issues. Therefore there was no need to bring this into the conversation that we were having around your behaviour.
2. The fire/water connection at the Goolmangar pool. We do not accept this. This is a plumbing issue and has nothing to do with the integrity of a pool. You as construction manager should know this.
3. The Casino pool. We do not accept this. You cannot make such a serious allegation based on a pool that you have played no part in the construction of nor diagnosis of issues, especially when you have never attended site to see the pool.
I believe that you made such an allegation in an effort to intimidate me when I was questioning you on your inappropriate and insubordinate behaviour. This is a serious matter and we will be seeking legal advice with regards to the next steps." (Reproduced verbatim)
"I got into the pool & started stomping with my heel on all of the pool steps. I found the bottom step of the main step area near the house to be completely hollow. There is no backfill at all under it. My mind instantly went back to Mr Muttons claim of three failing pools & the fact that he made that statement to Toni while standing next to the pool that I had now discovered had a major installation fault. Given Mr Muttons state of mind during that work week, week ending 07/02/2025, I did not believe that this was a coincidence."
a) Over the weekend of 22-23/02/2025 I thought long & hard about Mr Muttons employment. It was a difficult decision to make. Mr Mutton was a hard worker & it would place a lot more strain onto myself not having him there. To dismiss him would be a waste of almost three years of training him. However, he had disobeyed direct instructions from me on multiple occasions. At no stage had Mr Mutton ever put any of his concerns into a letter, email, message or verbally. The only times he has expressed his issues was through aggressive accusations in the form of an emotional outburst, both times to a female. He had refused to have & had not reached out to have a meeting to discuss things. He made a threatening & intimidating statement to Toni Fields regarding three pools that he claimed he knew were going to fail. He refused to answer her when she asked which pools. Only after being requested did he come up with three pools that I 100% know are false claims. I believed that there are two more pools out there that Mr Mutton has carried out defective work on that will fail at some point.
b) Mr Mutton had already said that the issue had been referred to a third party & said that he would consider unfair dismissal if he was dismissed while on stress leave. I knew that he was going to claim unfair dismissal no matter when he was dismissed. It was at this point I made the decision that it was too great a risk to have Mr Mutton attend a job site ever again. He had displayed gross insubordination by not following directives given by me on multiple occasions & I had now discovered an installation failure that I believed was caused through purposeful neglect that would cost me thousands of dollars to repair. I made the decision to summary dismiss Mr Mutton.
c) By 24/02/2025 We had not received any correspondence from Mr Mutton. I was of the understanding that his stress leave finished at close of business on that day. Not having dismissed an employee before it was all very new to me. Around 6.30pm that evening I instructed Toni Fields to send Mr Mutton an email advising of his termination of employment with letter attached. In hindsight it may have been better to send it the following morning. I did not believe at the time that I was dismissing Mr Mutton while he was on stress leave...as his stress leave had finished at 4.30pm that day." (Reproduced verbatim)
"Please find attached your letter of termination of employment.
This was not a decision that we have taken lightly. It is unfortunate that we could not work together to find ways for you to express your issues within the company due to your refusal to attend informal meetings or communicate your grievances either in verbal or written form."
"I am writing to you regarding the termination of your employment with Northern Rivers Pools.
I refer to the official letter of demand for disclosure of information dated 07/02/2025, which you received.
This official demand letter was issued to you due to the very serious statement that you made to Toni on Thursday 06/02/2025 during an onsite discussion around your inappropriate behaviour that morning.
Your reply to this letter of demand on Tuesday 11/02/2025 was not accepted for reasons that have been outlined in our previous correspondence.
The reasons for classing this behaviour as serious misconduct are as follows.
You made the very serious allegation that you knew of three pools that will soon fail, when asked which pools you believed were going to fail, you refused to answer.
During this onsite conversation, you were instructed on more than one occasion to only form up and return to the shed. Your mention of failing pools was an intimidating statement to make. It was also taken as though you were intimating that there was a possibility you had sabotaged the quality of our work on three pools in your role as construction manager.
On Thursday 20/02/2025 we received a phone call from the client whose job we were working during said conversation. She had serious concerns that the main bottom step on the house side of the pool was 'hollow'. The team inspected the pool that day. It was obvious that this step is hollow & had not been packed at all. The installation of that pool now requires costly remediation.
During the backfilling process on that pool you were asked by Grant 'did you pack that bottom step?' to which you replied 'yes'.
Your concerning statement regarding failing pools, your refusal to answer when asked to disclose which pools would fail, while working on a pool that has clearly not been installed to standard, while also disregarding a direct instruction to only form up and come back to the depot is serious misconduct and insubordination.
Your refusal to follow instruction to only form up the bond beam falls under the NSW Fair Work Ombudsmans' category of misconduct - refusing to carry out a lawful and reasonable instruction that is part of the job and has the ability to cause a serious and imminent risk to the reputation, viability or profitability of Northern Rivers Pools.
We consider your actions constitute serious misconduct warranting summary dismissal. Your employment with Northern Rivers Pools is terminated as at close of business on Monday the 24/02/2025."
"During this project, Grant Vidler operated the machinery, Taylor Murphy and I wheelbarrowed the mix to the steps location. Taylor and I shovelled the mix into the void until it had filled to the surface. I started the high-pressure water unit and began to blast the mix into the void. This procedure can take significant time as the mix fills the lowest points first and then progresses up the step heights. During the procedure, I called over additional amounts of mix as we progressed through the step back fill. After a period of time, the void produced a mix return. I let it settle for a period and then once again commenced packing so as not to overflow the water/mix ratio. Based on the amounts of mix used and the amounts of mix brought, I believed the steps to be packed properly and did not see anything to suggest otherwise. Grant was happy with the amounts of mix used, and Taylor, who was shoulder distance from me, would have pointed out concerns if he had seen them. The workspace for Grant Vidler, Taylor Murphy, and myself would be approximately 15 metres, identifying the ability for all workers to see and manage the site activities."
(3) whether the dismissal was consistent with the Small Business Fair Dismissal Code; and
- (4) whether the dismissal was a case of genuine redundancy.[14]
It is fair for an employer to dismiss an employee without notice or warning when the employer believes on reasonable grounds that the employee's conduct is sufficiently serious to justify immediate dismissal. Serious misconduct includes theft, fraud, violence and serious breaches of occupational health and safety procedures. For a dismissal to be deemed fair it is sufficient, though not essential, that an allegation of theft, fraud or violence be reported to the police. Of course, the employer must have reasonable grounds for making the report.
(2) the dismissal was harsh, unjust or unreasonable;
(3) the dismissal was not consistent with the Small Business Fair Dismissal Code; and
(4) the dismissal was not a case of genuine redundancy.
(1) whether there was a valid reason for the dismissal related to Mr Mutton's capacity or conduct (including its effect on the safety and welfare of other employees);
(3) whether Mr Mutton was given an opportunity to respond to any reason related to his capacity or conduct;
(4) any unreasonable refusal by Artisan Pools to allow Mr Mutton to have a support person present to assist at any discussions relating to dismissal;
(5) if the dismissal related to Mr Mutton's unsatisfactory performance - whether he had been warned about that unsatisfactory performance before the dismissal;
(6) the degree to which the size of Artisan Pools' enterprise would be likely to impact on the procedures followed in effecting the dismissal;
(7) the degree to which the absence of dedicated human resource management specialists or expertise in Artisan Pools' enterprise would be likely to impact on the procedures followed in effecting the dismissal; and
(8) any other matters that the Commission considers relevant
Whether there was a valid reason for the dismissal
Notification of reason and opportunity to respond
Any unreasonable refusal by Artisan Pools to allow Mr Mutton to have a support person
The size of Artisan Pools' enterprise, and access to dedicated human resource management specialists or expertise
Step 1: Estimate the remuneration Mr Mutton would have received, or have been likely to have received, if Artisan Pools had not terminated his employment (remuneration lost).
Step 2: Deduct monies earned by Mr Mutton since termination.
Step 3: Discount the remaining amount for contingencies.
Step 4: Calculate the impact of taxation to ensure that Mr Mutton receives the actual amount he would have received if he had continued in his employment.

[1] In this decision, all references to legislation are to provisions of the Fair Work Act
[2] Within the meaning of section 23. This was not in dispute.
[3] Statement of Toni Fields, 16 June 2025 (Exhibit R5), par 16. See also pars 19 and 26
[4] Statement of Toni Fields, 16 June 2025 (Exhibit R5), par 24
[5] Statement of Toni Fields, 16 June 2025 (Exhibit R5), par 25
[6] Submission of Grant Vidler, 13 June 2025, par 5(h)
[7] Statement of Grant Vidler, 13 June 2025
[8] Submission of Anthony Mutton in Reply, par 72
[9] Submissions of Anthony Mutton, 27 May 2025, par 56
[10] Submission of Grant Vidler, 13 June 2025, par 15(c)
[12] As prescribed by section 394(2)
[13] Within the meaning of section 382
[14] Within the meaning of section 389
[15] Mr Mutton was dismissed on 24 February 2025 and filed his unfair dismissal application on 15 March 2025
[18] Chubb Security Australia Pty Ltd v Thomas, Print S2679 (AIRCFB, McIntyre VP, Marsh SDP, Larkin C, 2 February 2000) at [41]; Read v Cordon Square Child Care Centre [2013] FWCFB 762 at [48]- [49]
[19] Sayer v Melsteel Pty Ltd [2011] FWAFB 7498 at [14]
[20] Selvachandran v Peteron Plastics Pty Ltd [1995] IRCA 333; (1995) 62 IR 371 at 373
[21] Walton v Mermaid Dry Cleaners Pty Ltd [1996] IRCA 267; (1996) 142 ALR 681 at 685
[22] Chubb Security Australia Pty Ltd v Thomas, Print S2679 (AIRCFB, McIntyre VP, Marsh SDP, Larkin C, 2 February 2000) at [41]; Read v Cordon Square Child Care Centre [2013] FWCFB 762 at [48]- [49]
[24] Nguyen v Vietnamese Community in Australia t/a Vietnamese Community Ethnic School South Australia Chapter [2014] FWCFB 7198 at [9]
[27] [1998] AIRC 989; (1998) 88 IR 21, adopted for the purposes of the Fair Work Act in Bowden v Ottrey Homes Cobram and District Retirement Villages [2013] FWCFB 431
[29] See Ellawala v Australian Postal Corporation, Print S5109 (AIRCFB, Ross VP, Williams SDP, Gay C, 17 April 2000) at [34]
[30] He v Lewin (2004) 137 FCR 266; [2004] FCAFC 161 at [58]
[31] He v Lewin (2004) 137 FCR 266; [2004] FCAFC 161 at [58]- [59]
[32] This is evidenced by payslips that Mr Mutton produced, which reflect the terms on which he was offered permanent employment as construction manager. It is also consistent with the information that Artisan Pools provided in its response to the unfair dismissal application.
[33] Section 392(2)(e) and (f)
[35] Ellawala v Australian Postal Corporation, Print S5109 (AIRCFB, Ross VP, Williams SDP, Gay C, 17 April 2000) at [43]
[36] Bowden v Ottrey Homes Cobram and District Retirement Villages Inc T/A Ottrey Lodge (2013) 229 IR 6; [2013] FWCFB 431 at [53]
[40] Biviano v Suji Kim Collection PR915963 (AIRCFB, Ross VP, O'Callaghan SDP, Foggo C, 28 March 2002) at [34], citing Lockwood Security Products Pty Limited v Sulocki and Ors PR908053 (AIRCFB, Giudice J, Lacy SDP, Blair C, 23 August 2001) at [45]
[43] Sections 392(5) and (6). In this case that is the remuneration that Mr Mutton received or was entitled to receive in the 26 weeks preceding his dismissal
[44] Double N Equipment Hire Pty Ltd t/a A1 Distributions v Humphries [2016] FWCFB 7206 at [17]
[45] Under the terms of his employment contract, Mr Mutton was entitled to superannuation at the rate of 12%.
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Anthony Mutton
Artisan Pools Pty T/A Northern Rivers Pools [2025] FWC 2686
(1995) 62 IR 371
(1996) 142 ALR 681
(1998) 88 IR 21
(2004) 137 FCR 266
(2013) 229 IR 6