[2024] FWC 1918
General information, not legal advice.
Fair Work Commission
2024-07-22
Commissioner P
Original judgment source is linked above.
s.365 - General protections
Application to deal with a dismissal dispute - application made out of time - circumstances not exceptional - application dismissed
(a) During the meeting on 1 May 2024, the Applicant made arrangements for his personal files to be deleted from his work computer and for the Respondent's external IT consultant to remove the Applicant's IT access; and
(b) Over the period of 2-4 May 2024, the Applicant and Ms Leidler-Muh arranged for the Applicant to return keys to the Respondent's premises, to collect his personal belongings, and the Applicant provided several updates related to the status of outstanding work and customer information.
As I have had to dismiss you on 1st May 2024 for Serious Misconduct in threating James Muh the Director of the company with violence via your phone call on evening of 30th April at 5.43pm. You have also been abusive and confrontational towards me since our discussions started. On the 1st of May 2024 you were very aggressive and intimidating which is not acceptable. I have always been always polite and courteous in my dealings with you. Your non legal agreement is not valid and therefore the company will not agree to your terms.
Regarding the Bond, we will refund the bond back to you upon site inspection once you have vacated the property. As advised you will need to vacate the property by 15th May 2024, we have advised the landlords agency regarding the returning the property.
You will need to come and collect your person item from the business by 4pm today being 4th May 2024. If it is not collected, we will leave it outside for you to collect.
(i) It was when he received written notice of the day of dismissal which cannot be before the day the notice is given (s.117(1) of the FW Act); and
(ii) The reference to serious misconduct changed the 1 May 2024 dismissal from a dismissal with payment to be made in lieu of notice to a summary dismissal effective from 4 May 2024.
[32] ...it is clear in our view that if an employer terminates the employment of an employee without giving notice, or payment in lieu thereof, in accordance with an obligation owed by the employer under a contract, award, enterprise agreement or s.117 of the Act, the result is that the employer has acted unlawfully and/or wrongfully and the employee will have one or more causes of action available to him or her under the contract, award, enterprise agreement and/or the Act to remedy the deficiency in notice. However, an unlawful or wrongful dismissal does not invalidate or render void the termination of the employment relationship. Whether the employment relationship has been terminated is a question of fact.[3]
(b) any action taken by the person to dispute the dismissal;
(c) prejudice to the employer (including prejudice caused by the delay);
(e) fairness as between the person and other persons in a similar position.
Waiting for the Respondent to provide copies of payslips
s.366(2)(b) - Action taken to dispute the dismissal
s.366(2)(e) - Fairness as between the person and other persons in a similar position

[1] See Toll (FGCT) Pty Ltd v Alphapharm Pty Ltd [2004] HCA 52 at [40].
[3] Ibid at [32]; See also Southern Migrant and Refugee Centre Inc v Shum (No 3) [2022] FCA 481 at [206]; Rhidian Lloyd Cody v Stratacache Australia Pty Ltd [2022] FWCFB 116 at [29].
[4] Melbourne Stadiums Ltd v Sautner [2015] FCFCA 20 at [112] (per Tracey, Gilmour, Jagot and Beach JJ).
[5] Nulty v Blue Star Group Pty Ltd [2011] FWAFB 975 (Nulty) at [13].
[7] Lombardo v Commonwealth of Australia as represented by the Department of Education, Employment and Workplace Relations [2014] FWCFB 2288 at [21].
[8] Stogiannidis v Victorian Frozen Foods Distributors Pty Ltd [2018] FWCFB 901 at [39].
[11] Nulty v Blue Star Group Pty Ltd [2011] FWAFB 975 at [14]; Sandra Mueller v Coles Supermarkets Australia Pty Ltd [2022] FWC 1852 at [13]; Ciaran Ryan v Finney Pty Limited T/A Cutprice Car Rentals [2020] FWC 1273 at [25]- [31]; Michael Harvey v Compass-Group (Australia) Pty Ltd [2021] FWC 1375 at [57].
[12] Coles Supermarkets Australia Pty Ltd v Alexander Tapier [2021] FWCFB 2559 at [25]; Matthew Dakin v Farmgate MSU Pty Ltd [2022] FWC 1707 at [3]- [4]; Sxa Fang Chong v SSM International Pty Ltd [2022] FWC 2591 at [18].
[13] Brodie-Hanns v MTV Publishing Ltd (1995) 67 IR 298.
[14] Hunter Valley Developments Pty Ltd v Cohen [1984] FCA 176 at [19].
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K'Gari Marine Services Pty Ltd, Karin Muh [2024] FWC 1918
(1995) 67 IR 298