[2025] FWC 1653
General information, not legal advice.
Fair Work Commission
2025-06-17
Original judgment source is linked above.
s.394 - Unfair dismissal
Application for an unfair dismissal remedy - jurisdictional objections raised - whether Applicant's dismissal consistent with Small Business Fair Dismissal Code - jurisdictional objections dismissed - dismissal found to be unfair - reinstatement not appropriate - compensation ordered.
- Contacting other building companies to arrange and schedule any required works if we are too quiet to keep all carpentry staff busy and adding financial value.
- Requesting and receipting PO's for all work and tasks before commencing.
- Working with Cam to help him slowly become more independent and manage his own crew on day to day basis.
- QA of all works being completed by our carpenters."[3]
"4.4 The employee will also be entitled to the use of a company car (dual cab ute) during their employment and the associated benefits of a fuel card and Toll's registration. Whilst in possession of the company vehicle the employee will be liable for any fines or breaches of law in the vehicle and the employee will be liable to pay any insurance excess fees in the event of an accident, theft or other event."
As discussed with you, it has been decided that your employment will continue for the next 6 weeks and then we agree to amicably part ways. Your last day will be Friday 21 March 2025.
During this time, it is agreed that you will abide with the following:
- Any work for other building companies or other employers during work hours or after work hours will be confirmed with me in advance. Approval at my discretion.
- Not request or utilise any of our employees for any work other than our companies work.
- Maintain professional and respectful communication and demeanour, with all staff, contractors, suppliers and clients.
- No slander directed towards the business, employees or myself etc.
- Along with all other aspects and parameters of your previous employment contracts.
Once you have had a think about what your next steps will be, please let me know and I can send out communication to everyone in the business. I will be happy to provide support in anyway I can, once you know what the next steps are. Let's have a chat again in the next few days.
Thanks for all the great work and homes you have built over your time employed with us."
I'm happy to do the 6 weeks. I will continue to do my best work during this period and 'head down bum up'.
Could you please let me know if there is a payout figure and if so how much?
These two are crucial for setting up the next chapter."
I am writing to you about the termination of your employment with Hill and Muller Pty Ltd T/A Advanced Living.
I refer to our meeting on 12/02/2025, 7am at our office which was attended by you and Justin Koob. During the meeting we discussed the reason for terminating your employment and sighted serious misconduct.
Reasons for the termination include, but not limited to:
As discussed during the meeting, your conduct during these incidents:
Caused a serious and imminent risk to the health or safety of a person/s.
We consider that your actions constitute serious misconduct warranting summary dismissal.
You will be paid your accrued entitlements and any outstanding pay up to and including your last day of employment. This includes the balance of any annual leave, superannuation and Coinvest (Long Service contribution).
If you have been paid annual leave in advance, any amount still owing will be deducted from your final pay.
You may seek information about minimum terms and conditions of employment from the Fair Work
Ombudsman. If you wish to contact them you can call 13 13 94 or visit their website at
www.fairwork.gov.au. Some termination payments may give rise to waiting periods for any applicable Centrelink payments.
If you need to lodge a claim for payment you should contact Centrelink immediately to find out if there is a waiting period.
(a) the person's employment with his or her employer has been terminated on the employer's initiative; or
(b) the person has resigned from his or her employment, but was forced to do so because of conduct, or a course of conduct, engaged in by his or her employer.
(a) whether the application was made within the period required in subsection 394(2);
(b) whether the person was protected from unfair dismissal;
(c) whether the dismissal was consistent with the Small Business Fair Dismissal Code; and
(d) whether the dismissal was a case of genuine redundancy.
It is fair for an employer to dismiss an employee without notice or warning when the employer believes on reasonable grounds that the employee's conduct is sufficiently serious to justify immediate dismissal. Serious misconduct includes theft, fraud, violence and serious breaches of occupational health and safety procedures. For a dismissal to be deemed fair it is sufficient, though not essential, that an allegation of theft, fraud or violence be reported to the police. Of course, the employer must have reasonable grounds for making the report.
In other cases, the small business employer must give the employee a reason why he or she is at risk of being dismissed. The reason must be a valid reason based on the employee's conduct or capacity to do the job.
The employee must be warned verbally or preferably in writing, that he or she risks being dismissed if there is no improvement.
The small business employer must provide the employee with an opportunity to respond to the warning and give the employee a reasonable chance to rectify the problem, having regard to the employee's response. Rectifying the problem might involve the employer providing additional training and ensuring the employee knows the employer's job expectations.
In discussions with an employee in circumstances where dismissal is possible, the employee can have another person present to assist. However, the other person cannot be a lawyer acting in a professional capacity.
A small business employer will be required to provide evidence of compliance with the Code if the employee makes a claim for unfair dismissal to Fair Work Australia, including evidence that a warning has been given (except in cases of summary dismissal). Evidence may include a completed checklist, copies of written warning(s), a statement of termination or signed witness statements."
"[29] ... There are two steps in the process of determining whether this aspect of the Small Business Fair Dismissal Code is satisfied. First, there needs to be a consideration whether, at the time of dismissal, the employer held a belief that the employee's conduct was sufficiently serious to justify immediate dismissal. Secondly it is necessary to consider whether that belief was based on reasonable grounds. The second element incorporates the concept that the employer has carried out a reasonable investigation into the matter. It is not necessary to determine whether the employer was correct in the belief that it held.
[30] Acting reasonably does not require a single course of action. Different employers may approach the matter differently and form different conclusions, perhaps giving more benefit of any doubt, but still be acting reasonably. The legislation requires a consideration of whether the particular employer, in determining its course of action in
relation to the employee at the time of dismissal, carried out a reasonable investigation, and reached a reasonable conclusion in all the circumstances. The circumstances include the experience and resources of the small business employer concerned.
[38] Normally in order to hold a belief on reasonable grounds it will be necessary to have a discussion with the employee about the perceived serious misconduct and pay regard to the explanations and views given by the employee. We are concerned in this case that no discussions took place about the implications of Mr Domingo's conduct for his future employment. However this is a very unusual case. The employer was very small. The owners knew Mr Domingo well ..."
Was the dismissal harsh, unjust, or unreasonable?
(a) whether there was a valid reason for the dismissal related to the person's capacity or conduct (including its effect on the safety and welfare of other employees); and
(b) whether the person was notified of that reason; and
(c) whether the person was given an opportunity to respond to any reason related to the capacity or conduct of the person; and
(d) any unreasonable refusal by the employer to allow the person to have a support person present to assist at any discussions relating to dismissal; and
(e) if the dismissal related to unsatisfactory performance by the person - whether the person had been warned about that unsatisfactory performance before the dismissal; and
(f) the degree to which the size of the employer's enterprise would be likely to impact on the procedures followed in effecting the dismissal; and
(g) the degree to which the absence of dedicated human resource management specialists or expertise in the enterprise would be likely to impact on the procedures followed in effecting the dismissal; and
(h) any other matters that the FWC considers relevant.
Was there a valid reason for the dismissal related to the Applicant's capacity or conduct - s 387(a)?
"Restricted Activities" means canvassing or soliciting orders for the supply of services of the general description of those supplied by the Employer from any person who has during the Employee's employment transacted business with the Employer, whether directly or indirectly and whether alone or with any other person in any capacity including, without limitation, as:
(i) a consultant to that person;
(ii) an agent for that person;
(iii) an adviser to that person;
(iv) an employee of that person;
(v) a partner or jointly with that person; or
(vi) a member or shareholder or unit holder in any company, trust or business enterprise, associated with that person."
Opportunity to respond to any reason related to capacity or conduct - s 387(c)
Warnings regarding unsatisfactory performance - s 387(e)
Impact of the size of the Respondent on procedures followed - s 387(f)
Impact of absence of dedicated human resources management specialist/expertise on procedures followed - s 387(g)
Is the Commission satisfied that the dismissal of the Applicant was harsh, unjust, or unreasonable?
(a) I am satisfied that reinstatement of the Applicant is inappropriate; and
(b) I consider an order for payment of compensation is appropriate in all the circumstances of the case.
(a) the effect of the order on the viability of the Respondent's enterprise;
(c) the remuneration that the Applicant would have received, or would have been likely to receive, if the Applicant had not been dismissed;
(d) the efforts of the Applicant (if any) to mitigate the loss suffered by the Applicant because of the dismissal;
(e) the amount of any remuneration earned by the Applicant from employment or other work during the period between the dismissal and the making of the order for compensation;
(f) the amount of any income reasonably likely to be so earned by the Applicant during the period between the making of the order for compensation and the actual compensation; and
(g) any other matter that the Commission considers relevant.
Step 1: Estimate the remuneration the Applicant would have received, or have been likely to have received, if the employer had not terminated the employment (remuneration lost).
Step 3: Discount the remaining amount for contingencies.
Step 4: Calculate the impact of taxation to ensure that the employee receives the actual amount he or she would have received if they had continued in their employment.
[1] Exhibit A1, 2022 Contract of Employment, dated 26 July 2022
[2] Exhibit R8, Email exchange between Applicant and Andrew French from 22 November - 11 December 2023
[4] Exhibit R28, Email exchange between Applicant and Andrew French, from 13 February - 6 March 2024
[5] Exhibit R4 & R5, Company Vehicle Policy signed by Applicant
[6] Exhibit R16, AAMI Car Insurance Policy Renewal, dated 18 July 2024, for 2022 Ford Ranger Xls, registration CBR848
[7] Exhibit R14, Employee Direction to Applicant, dated 29 July 2019
[8] Exhibit R15, Email from Andrew French to staff re 'Tools', dated 28 January 2021
[10] Exhibit R1, Email from Andrew French to Applicant, dated 5 September 2024, titled 'Employee Performance Reviews'
[11] Exhibit R18, Email from Andrew French to Applicant, dated 3 December 2024, titled Carpentry PO Review
[12] Exhibit R19, Email from Applicant to Andrew French, dated 18 December 2024, titled 'Re: Carpentry PO Review'
[13] Exhibit R23, Email from Applicant dated 23 September 2024, Exhibit R24, Email from Applicant dated 25 September 2024, Exhibit R25, Email from Applicant, date 18 October 2024, Exhibit R26, Email from Applicant, dated 23 January 2024
[14] Exhibit R27, Blue Ladder Projects Instagram post, dated 21 November 2024
[15] Exhibit R29, Email from Andrew French to Applicant, dated 10 February 2025, titled 'Employment'
[16] Exhibit R30, Email from Applicant to Andrew French, dated 10 February 2025, titled, 'Re: Employment'
[17] Exhibit A8, Text message exchange between Applicant and Andrew French, dated 11 December 2024
[18] Exhibit R31, Andrew Cox Vehicle and Time Sheet Records
[19] Exhibit R39, Personal Travel - Andrew Cox
[20] Exhibit A5, Termination of employment notice, dated 12 February 2025
[22] Selvachandran v Peteron Plastics Pty Ltd [1995] IRCA 333; (1995) 62 IR 371, 373.
[24] Walton v Mermaid Dry Cleaners Pty Ltd [1996] IRCA 267; (1996) 142 ALR 681, 685.
[25] Crozier v Palazzo Corporation Pty Ltd (2000) 98 IR 137, 151.
[26] Previsic v Australian Quarantine Inspection Services Print Q3730 (AIRC, Holmes C, 6 October 1998).
[28] Crozier v Palazzo Corporation Pty Ltd t/a Noble Park Storage and Transport Print S5897 (AIRCFB, Ross VP, Acton SDP, Cribb C, 11 May 2000), [75].
[29] RMIT v Asher [2010] FWAFB 1200; (2010) 194 IR 1, 14-15.
[30] Gibson v Bosmac Pty Ltd [1995] IRCA 222; (1995) 60 IR 1, 7.
[31] ALH Group Pty Ltd t/a The Royal Exchange Hotel v Mulhall (2002) 117 IR 357, [51]. See also Smith v Moore Paragon Australia Ltd PR915674 (AIRCFB, Ross VP, Lacy SDP, Simmonds C, 21 March 2002), [92]; Edwards v Justice Giudice [1999] FCA 1836, [6]- [7].
[32] Nguyen v Vietnamese Community in Australia t/a Vietnamese Community Ethnic School South Australia Chapter [2014] FWCFB 7198, [9].
[33] He v Lewin [2004] FCAFC 161, [58].
[35] Biviano v Suji Kim Collection PR915963 (AIRCFB, Ross VP, O'Callaghan SDP, Foggo C, 28 March 2002), [34] citing Payzu Ltd v Saunders [1919] 2 KB 581.
[38] Double N Equipment Hire Pty Ltd t/a A1 Distributions v Humphries [2016] FWCFB 7206, [16].
[39] Ellawala v Australian Postal Corporation Print S5109 (AIRCFB, Ross VP, Williams SDP, Gay C, 17 April 2000), [34].
[41] Double N Equipment Hire Pty Ltd t/a A1 Distributions v Humphries [2016] FWCFB 7206, [17].
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Hill And Muller Pty Ltd [2025] FWC 1653
(1995) 62 IR 371
(2000) 98 IR 137
(1995) 60 IR 1
(2002) 117 IR 357
(1996) 142 ALR 681
(2010) 194 IR 1
(1998) 88 IR 21