[2025] NSWCATAP 149
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NCAT Appeal Panel
2025-06-24
A Bell SC, Senior MemberM Tibbey, Senior Member
Original judgment source is linked above.
(1) It had jurisdiction to deal with the matter.
(2) In or about May 2022 Dr Younis received a quotation from Alkras Pty Ltd for frameless glass balustrade, privacy screen, swing gate, pool equipment, cover, and pool glass fencing. The quote was for $32,813. After receipt of the quotation, additional works were requested. There was a verbal quotation of approximately $27,000 for the construction of a staircase and further quotation of approximately $45,000 for the staircase railing.
(3) Most of Dr Younis' discussions regarding the metal staircase were conducted with Mr Dayoub.
(4) The parties came to an agreement that there would be a lower price charged for cash.
(5) Payments of at least $101,000 were made by Dr Younis to Mr Dayoub and Alkras Pty Ltd. There was no written contract and no receipts were given for those payments.
(6) The Tribunal was not satisfied that Dr Younis had established that the sum of $4,700.00 was overpaid. The Member stated that:
"Dr Younis' recollection of the prices for the job or various aspects of the job was vague and he was unsure at times of what the quoted price was, given that the transactions occurred in 2022. That is not surprising. However his task is made more difficult...by the fact that there was no written contract and no receipts were given."
(7) The Tribunal was not satisfied that sections of the railing of the staircase required repair. The Member stated that:
"In the absence of an expert's report, it is difficult for the Tribunal to come to any conclusion that the railing has any defect in it."
(8) As to allegedly defective painting of the railing, the Member stated:
"Dr Younis and his wife were shown a sample of the finish. That sample, unfortunately, is no longer available. Dr Younis says that the paint finish was not in accordance with the sample. Mr Dayoub disputes this and says that the paint finish which Dr Younis now wants is completely different to that which he was instructed.
Once again, it is difficult for me to come to any conclusion because the evidence just doesn't persuade me one way or another. As I said, there is no expert report in this case. There's no copy of the sample and yes, I have Dr Younis' testimony that it is not in accordance with the sample. It's not up to the requisite standard and he is unhappy with the final product. But as against that, I have Mr Dayoub's evidence and quite simply I'm not satisfied on the balance of probability that Dr Younis has proved his case to the requisite standard".
(1) That the orders made by the Tribunal on 22 October 2024 be set aside and the matter be re-heard.
(2) That Mr Arzeb, Site Manager, be added as a respondent.
"What constitutes a question of law is vexed and context dependent in the sense that the distinction between matters of fact and of law may turn on the circumstances in which the question arises: Targeted Property Investments Pty Ltd v Look Up Technologies Pty Ltd (No 2) [2023] NSWSC 416 at [33(4)], citing Thomas and Naaz [2023] NSWCA 40 at [52] and Da Costa v The Queen [1968] HCA 51; (1968) 118 CLR 186 at 194; [1968] HCA 51.
For instance, a ground of appeal that raises the question whether there were adequate reasons may constitute an attack on the merits which would not raise a pure question of law. On the other hand, it may be a contention that the decision is unreasonable in the requisite sense or that the Tribunal failed to exercise the jurisdiction, which would likely raise a question of law: see the exposition of this issue in Wollondilly at [28]-[32]. Care must in any event be taken. As has been clarified by amendment to the NCAT Act since Prendergast was decided, the Tribunal is not required to give reasons for all decisions it makes: NCAT Act, s 62(2A; see too: New South Wales Land and Housing Corporation v Orr [2019] NSWCA 231 at [53]-[54], [109]-[114].
Therefore, discernment and care must be taken to ensure the grounds relied upon by the appellant, properly understood, raise questions of law and arise in the proceedings; or whether leave is required."
(1) the decision of the Tribunal under appeal was not fair and equitable; or
(2) the decision of the Tribunal under appeal was against the weight of evidence; or
(3) significant new evidence has arisen (being evidence that was not reasonably available at the time the proceedings under appeal were being dealt with).
"... where there was a "significant possibility" or a "chance which was fairly open" that a different and more favourable result would have been achieved for the appellant had the relevant circumstance in para (a) or (b) not occurred or if the fresh evidence under para (c) had been before the Tribunal at first instance."
"(1) In order to be granted leave to appeal, the applicant must demonstrate something more than that the primary decision maker was arguably wrong in the conclusion arrived at or that there was a bona fide challenge to an issue of fact: BHP Billiton Ltd v Dunning [2013] NSWCA 421 at [19] and the authorities cited there, Nakad v Commissioner of Police, NSW Police Force [2014] NSWCATAP 10 at [45];
(2) Ordinarily it is appropriate to grant leave to appeal, only in matters that involve:
(b) questions of public importance or matters of administration or policy which might have general application; or
(c) an injustice which is reasonably clear, in the sense of going beyond merely what is arguable, or an error that is plain and readily apparent which is central to the Tribunal's decision and not merely peripheral, so that it would be unjust to allow the finding to stand; or
(d) a factual error that was unreasonably arrived at and clearly mistaken; or
(e) the Tribunal having gone about the fact-finding process in such an unorthodox manner or in such a way that it was likely to produce an unfair result so that it would be in the interests of justice for it to be reviewed."
(1) The Notice of Appeal and submissions of the appellant lodged on 19 November 2024;
(2) The Reply to Appeal and submissions of the respondent lodged on 26 February 2025;
(3) Documents and submissions lodged by the appellant on 19 March 2025;
(4) Transcript of re-hearing lodged by the appellant on 27 March 2025; and
(5) The oral submissions of the parties at the hearing of the appeal.
(1) That the Tribunal paid insufficient regard to the findings of the Member who had first heard the matter, when it was undefended.
(2) That Mr Dayoub's credibility and evidence was accepted too readily.
(3) That the appellant was not given the products he was promised, and they were not to Australian Standards.
(4) That the Site Manager, Mr Mohammad Arzeb Hayat (Mr Arzeb), had been summonsed to appear as a witness before the Tribunal, had wrongfully failed to appear and ought now to be joined as a respondent to the claim.
(5) The front door, footsteps of the staircase and protective glass surrounds of the pool had been removed in order to extort an overpayment of $4,700.00.
(6) That videos the appellant provided to the Tribunal were not viewed by the Member.
(1) The works were of high-quality workmanship and the finish of the metal balustrades, staircase handrails and doors complied with Australian Standards.
(2) The hand-applied gold finish has inherent minor variations typical of that finish and this was understood and accepted by Dr Younis before it was applied, in accordance with the sample provided to Dr Younis.
(3) The verbal agreement lacked detailed written specifications.
(4) There was no contractual agreement between Mr Dayoub, Alkras Pty Ltd and Dr Younis. Dr Younis contracted with Ozark Pty Ltd, which engaged Ausmetal Holdings Pty Ltd initially and, after it went into liquidation, Mr Dayoub as a subcontractor, to carry out specific tasks, primarily metalwork and painting.
The question of law arguably raised: unreasonableness
I hereby certify that this is a true and accurate record of the reasons for decision of the Civil and Administrative Tribunal of New South Wales.
Younis
Dayoub and Alkras Pty Ltd [2025] NSWCATAP 149
(1968) 118 CLR 186