[2025] FWC 2603
General information, not legal advice.
Fair Work Commission
2025-09-03
Original judgment source is linked above.
s.394 - Unfair dismissal
Application for an unfair dismissal remedy - Small Business Fair Dismissal Code - dismissal consistent with Code - application dismissed.
"Hi Lou, following our discussion today, it's clear we have differing views on how the workplace should function. Regrettably, I believe it's best for us to part ways, effective today, so you will have no further shifts from Saturday onward. Your final pay will be processed as usual next week per our fortnightly schedule. Alex is still handling your super, so please reach out to him with any questions. Thank you for your contributions, and I wish you the best in your future. Sincerely, Kelly."
396 Initial matters to be considered before merits
The FWC must decide the following matters relating to an application for an order under Division 4 before considering the merits of the application:
(a) whether the application was made within the period required in subsection 394(2);
(b) whether the person was protected from unfair dismissal;
(c) whether the dismissal was consistent with the Small Business Fair Dismissal Code;
(d) whether the dismissal was a case of genuine redundancy.
(a) immediately before the time of the dismissal or at the time the person was given notice of the dismissal (whichever happened first), the person's employer was a small business employer; and
(b) the employer complied with the Code in relation to the dismissal.
It is fair for an employer to dismiss an employee without notice or warning when the employer believes on reasonable grounds that the employee's conduct is sufficiently serious to justify immediate dismissal. Serious misconduct includes theft, fraud, violence and serious breaches of occupational health and safety procedures. For a dismissal to be deemed fair it is sufficient, though not essential, that an allegation of theft, fraud or violence be reported to the police. Of course, the employer must have reasonable grounds for making the report.
In other cases, the small business employer must give the employee a reason why he or she is at risk of being dismissed. The reason must be a valid reason based on the employee's conduct or capacity to do the job.
The employee must be warned verbally or preferably in writing, that he or she risks being dismissed if there is no improvement. The small business employer must provide the employee with an opportunity to respond to the warning and give the employee a reasonable chance to rectify the problem, having regard to the employee's response. Rectifying the problem might involve the employer providing additional training and ensuring the employee knows the employer's job expectations.
In discussions with an employee in circumstances where dismissal is possible, the employee can have another person present to assist. However, the other person cannot be a lawyer acting in a professional capacity.
A small business employer will be required to provide evidence of compliance with the Code if the employee makes a claim for unfair dismissal to Fair Work Australia, including evidence that a warning has been given (except in cases of summary dismissal). Evidence may include a completed checklist, copies of written warning(s), a statement of termination or signed witness statements.
"In this discussion, throughout our conversation, the applicant was dismissive, continuously scrolling on her phone despite being on shift. She refused to consider the feedback, take responsibility, or engage in a professional dialogue. At one point, she put her finger to her mouth and told me to "shush." She also verbally disparaged me, stating that I didn't understand how hard she worked and that I "only come in to 'la la'," a phrase she explained was a Chinese expression meaning "bullsh*t" and incompetence."
"You are the only Chinese staff with a Chinese accent, and you work with the white people. If anything is wrong, it must be you."
"i. Failure to engage respectfully in discussions, which also includes a belittling and dismissive attitude towards management. This was clearly demonstrated when the applicant told Kelly to 'shush' and stated that Kelly can only 'la la' (which the applicant explained meant 'bullsh*t' and incompetence in Chinese). These comments were not only deeply disrespectful but also left Kelly feeling bullied and intimidated. While the applicant may have believed that her senior age and cultural background provided justification for such behaviour, no employee is entitled to use offensive language or act in a rude or aggressive manner in the workplace towards management. Even if the applicant is undergoing personal issues at home, professionalism must be maintained when addressing work-related matters, especially when interacting with management. This kind of conduct is unacceptable and undermines the values of a respectful and collaborative workplace.
"[27] Deputy President Bartel in Narong Khammaneechan v Nanakhon Pty Ltd ATF Nanakhon Trading Trust T/A Banana Tree Cafe said:
"[60] At the outset it is appropriate to note that unlike a consideration of the dismissal of an employee of a business that is not a small business employer, the function of FWA is not to determine on the evidence whether there was a valid reason for dismissal. That is, the exercise in the present matter does not involve a finding on the evidence as to whether the applicant did or did not steal the money. The application of the Small Business Fair Dismissal Code involves a determination as to whether there were reasonable grounds on which the respondent reached the view that the applicant's conduct was serious enough to justify immediate dismissal. As such, the determination is to be based on the knowledge available to the employer at the time of the dismissal, and necessarily involves an assessment of the reasonableness of the steps taken by the employer to gather relevant information on which the decision to dismiss was based."
[28] Senior Deputy President O'Callaghan in Harley v Rosecrest Asset Pty Ltd T/A Can Do International said:
"[8] For an employer to believe on reasonable grounds that the employee's conduct is sufficiently serious to justify immediate dismissal, it is firstly necessary for the employer to establish that the employer did in fact hold the belief that as a matter of fact that (i) the conduct was by the employee; (ii) the conduct was serious; and (iii) that the conduct justified immediate dismissal. This is to be contrasted to the provisions of s.387(a) where FWA, in determining whether there was a valid reason for the dismissal, must find whether the conduct in fact occurred.
[9] Secondly, it is necessary for the employer to establish that there are reasonable grounds for the employer holding the belief. It is thus necessary for the employer to establish a basis for the belief held which is reasonable. In this regard it would usually be necessary for the employer to establish what inquires or investigations were made to support a basis for holding the belief. It would also ordinarily be expected that the belief held be put to the employee, even though the grounds for holding it may not be. Failure to make sufficient inquiries or to put the accusation to the employee in many circumstances might lead to a view that there were no reasonable grounds for the belief to be held."
[29] We believe that the approach and observations in these two decisions are correct. There are two steps in the process of determining whether this aspect of the Small Business Fair Dismissal Code is satisfied. First, there needs to be a consideration whether, at the time of dismissal, the employer held a belief that the employee's conduct was sufficiently serious to justify immediate dismissal. Secondly it is necessary to consider whether that belief was based on reasonable grounds. The second element incorporates the concept that the employer has carried out a reasonable investigation into the matter. It is not necessary to determine whether the employer was correct in the belief that it held.
[30] Acting reasonably does not require a single course of action. Different employers may approach the matter differently and form different conclusions, perhaps giving more benefit of any doubt, but still be acting reasonably. The legislation requires a consideration of whether the particular employer, in determining its course of action in relation to the employee at the time of dismissal, carried out a reasonable investigation, and reached a reasonable conclusion in all the circumstances. Those circumstances include the experience and resources of the small business employer concerned."
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