[2025] FedCFamC2F 1648
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Federal Circuit and Family Court (Div 2)
2025-11-24
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FEDERAL CIRCUIT AND FAMILY COURT OF AUSTRALIA (DIVISION 2)
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From my observations, [X] enjoyed being with [Mr Wyder], [Ms Wyder] and [Ms Sackville]. [X] seemed to have a warm and close relationship with [Ms Sackville] as well as with [Mr Wyder] and a warm and accepting relationship with [Ms Wyder]. During the observation sessions, there was co-operation between [X], [Mr Wyder] and [Ms Wyder], as well as between [X] and [Ms Sackville]. I note for a brief moment, [X] seemed to feel uncomfortable when [Mr Wyder], [Ms Wyder] walked into the waiting room where [X] and [Ms Sackville] were. This moment passed quickly, as [X] separated from [Ms Sackville] to go with [Mr Wyder] and [Ms Wyder] to their observation session. While this moment passed quickly, it may be that [X] becomes anxious when they are in close proximity, but at this time, I was present which may have provided [X] with some reassurance.[3]
The animosity between [Mr Wyder] and [Ms Sackville] has continued on from the separation, which leaves [X] very caught in the middle of this conflict. Young children usually manage to emotionally deal with such conflict by showing loyalty to each parent when with each of them. This created a dilemma for [X] on the day of the interviews when she was suddenly confronted with [Mr Wyder], [Ms Wyder] and [Ms Sackville] all being in close proximity. [X] seemed quickly relieved of these circumstances on being asked to go with [Mr Wyder] and [Ms Wyder] for the observation session. Once [X] was away from [Ms Sackville], she was fine being with [Mr Wyder] and [Ms Wyder]. After [Mr Wyder] and [Ms Wyder] left, [X] was with [Ms Sackville] who she was fine with. [Mr Wyder] and [Ms Sackville] need to be mindful of how their animosity affects [X], that it is not emotionally healthy for [X] to have to deal with being in the middle of their conflict.[4]
The difference for [C] and [X] is that [C] does not spend regular time with another parent, whereas [X] does. There are also other differences in the parenting of [C] and [X] given their different levels. At least [Mr Wyder] and [Ms Wyder] are very aware of how to parent a child with Autism.[5]
In the event either party is unable to personally care for [X] for any overnight period that they shall first offer the other party the ability to care for X during that period.
4. [X] spend time with the father as follows:
(a) Until April 2024 from the conclusion of school on Friday (or 3.00pm if a non-school day) until 3.00pm on Sunday.
(b) Commencing from commencement of Term 2 2025, from the conclusion of school Friday (or 3.00pm if a non-school day), until the commencement of school on Monday (or 9.00am if a non-school day).
Throughout 2024, [X] had fortnightly visitation to her dad's house on the weekends, from Friday afternoon to Sunday afternoon, where she spent time with her half siblings and her dad and step-mum going to the movies, or sports games and playing at home. [X]'s visitations ceased in November 2024, after [Ms Sackville] reported that [X] was demonstrating aggressive and extreme emotional behaviours when she tried to get [X] to get in the car to go to her dad's house, such as crying, screaming and hitting and verbalising that she didn't want to go. [X] was also observed to demonstrate these behaviours after coming home from her dad's house and there was a noticeable difference in [X]'s day to day mood and participation.
In May 2025, a new order was put in place where [X] now visits her dad and his family once a week, on alternating Saturday's and Sunday's. This change took place at the time of assessment, and there has been a noticeable change in [X]'s behaviours and mood when she returns home from her dad's house including verbal and physical aggression towards her mum and crying and screaming and having extreme difficulty with emotional regulation and coping with day-to-day life. It has been observed that this change to [X]'s routine and environment around her has been very difficult for [X] to cope with, and she requires intensive support from formal providers to be able to process these changes and develop appropriate coping strategies and form positive relationships with her loved ones.[6]
You must do everything a parenting order says. In doing so, you cannot be merely passive but must take positive action and this positive obligation includes taking all reasonable steps to ensure that the order is put into effect. You must also positively encourage your children to comply with the orders. For example where the order states your children are to spend time with another party, you must not only ensure that the children are available but must also positively encourage them to go and do so. There are agencies in the community that can help you and your family adjust to and comply with the order
I have already made reference to the implied obligation of the custodian to take reasonable steps to ensure that the access stipulated in an order takes place. Words and actions have meaning in context and affect. It is not a sufficient discharge of custodian's obligations, express or implied, to point to words and actions and to say, in effect: You see I tried. But the child does not want to go, and thereafter to figuratively fold their arms as if that were an end of the matter. Theirs is an active role with an obligation to positively encourage access. It is not a discharge of their duty to set up access to fail. That is to say, it is not sufficient to make a token effort at compliance by the utterance of a few phrases which, in the main, are designed to impart to the child not positive encouragement to go on access, but to convey the burden on both the child and the custodian of compliance with the obligation.
Ms Harris: You couldn't force X to come with you?
Mr Wyder; I would never force X to come with me, and I never have, and I never will.
Ms Harris: And so do you accept that you're now asking the mother by forcing her to get X when she says that's behaviour she has seen?
Mr Wyder: Okay, that's fine.
Ms Harris: And so you're wanting to force her?
Mr Wyder: No, I'm not wanting to force her.
Ms Harris: What do you want, then?
Mr Wyder: Just to make the attempt. So if she rocks up to the cop shop for the handover and X says to me in person - X says it to me saying, "I would not like to come," that is fine. But when the attempt is not made in general, that's what's frustrating.
Ms Harris: So to break that down firstly, you're telling the court you want your six-year-old child, who has severe autism, to look you in the eye and say, "I don't want to spend time with you." Is that what you want her to do?
Mr Wyder: That's not how I mean it. But if she would like to come there and say, "I wouldn't like to come today," I - I would be, "Okay. If you don't, that's okay."
Ms Harris: That's what you want. You need it from her mouth to you?
Mr Wyder: I would prefer it to be from her mouth, yes.
Ms Harris: At six years of age, you want her to tell you that?
Mr Wyder: Yes.
Ms Harris: And even though you accept that X may be exhibiting behaviours where she's kicking, she's screaming, she's crying, you want the mother to force her into a motor vehicle to go to the police station to tell you to your face. That's what you want the mother to do?
Mr Wyder: Put it like that? No.
Ms Harris: What do you want, then?
Mr Wyder: To be able to see our daughter.
Ms Harris: You accept that it's difficult for the mother to get her to handover, that it's traumatising, not only for X, but for the mother. Do you accept that?
Mr Wyder: Yes, I do.
I don't tell her anything about gifts or anything because how would I know what they have and what they don't have? And if she was to walk in and didn't have anything, then obviously I'm not going to do that. So no, I never do gift or bribing, things like that. But I do always tell her, "You have had fun at Dad's, and you will have fun at Dad's. And if you do want to come home at any point, I'm sure Dad will bring you home".
So what I did that time to ... get [X] there is I told her I had to go and see a big teacher because with [X] starting school, has started to listen to the teachers. So I explained to [X] that Hey, I had to go and see my big teacher today, and my big teacher said we have at least try, [X], or else I'm going to be in trouble with my teacher.
I certify that the preceding one hundred and sixty-two (162) numbered paragraphs are a true copy of the Reasons for Judgment of Judge Brown.
[1] Hereinafter referred to as "the ICL".
[2] Hereinafter referred to as "the Act".
[3] See Family Report dated 3 October 2024 at [36].
[6] See Annexure MSS-2 to the Affidavit of Ms Sackville filed 2 July 2025.
[7] See mother's affidavit filed 18 September 2025 at [32].
[8] Stevenson v Hughes [1993] FamCA 14; (1993) 16 Fam LR 443 at 450.
[9] See O'Brien v O'Brien [1992] FamCA 52; (1993) FLC 92-396 at 80,043.
[10] See Hadgkiss v Sunland Constructions Pty Ltd & Ors [2007] FCA 346; (2007) 158 FCR 193 at 195 [11].
(2007) 158 CLR 193
(1993) 16 Fam LR 443
(2007) 158 FCR 193