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[2016] VCAT 1666
Victorian Civil and Administrative Tribunal
2016-09-29
Original judgment source is linked above.
Claims for payment of two loans - respondent denies that loans were made -remission of a proceeding to Victorian Civil and Administrative Tribunal for rehearing - The Sisters Windfarm Pty Ltd v Moyne SC [2012] VSC 324 - consideration of the evidence - prior inconsistent statements - IOUs - Thomas v Hollier (1984) 53 ALR 39; BC8400530
Hearing 14 June 2016, 15 June 2016, 20 July 2016, 21 July 2016, 8 September 2016, 9 September 2016
Wei v Yu (Civil Claims) [2016] VCAT 1666
Agreed 25 January 2010 Mr Wei and Mrs Xia make two unsecured loans to their son Wen Tao Wei, for $54,300.00 and $32,950.00, a total of $87,250.00.
Agreed On 25 January 2010 Wen Tao Wei signs two "IOUs", for $54,300.00 and $32,950.00, in respect of the loans for the two deposits.
Wen Tao Wei enters into two contracts, to buy two Apartments in Doncaster "off the plan". He was the sole purchaser of Apartment 211. He was one of two purchasers - as a tenant in common with his friend Yizheng Luo - of Apartment 314. Settlement would not be due until the developer constructed the apartments and registered a plan of subdivision.
I note here that whilst it is possible for the purchaser of an "off the plan" apartment to lodge a caveat on the parent Certificate of Title as a means of seeking to secure the deposit, contracts of sale commonly forbid the purchaser from doing so. No evidence was given as to the terms of the two contracts signed by Wen Tao Wei, or to the effect that he had lodged a caveat. I assume, then, that he did not secure the deposits.
Agreed Wen Tao Wei paid the deposit of $54,300.00 on Apartment 211, and $32,950.00 as his share of the deposit on Apartment 314, using money borrowed from his parents Mr Wei and Mrs Xia.
At the time of the marriage, Wen Tao Wei ran a karaoke business, and Na Yu was employed as an executive. After the marriage Wen Tao Wei became addicted to drugs and closed his business.
Na Yu and her mother live with Mr Wei and Mrs Xia for some months, in their home, pending Na Yu and Wen Tao Wei moving into their matrimonial home.
April 2012 Wen Tao Wei nominates Na Yu as sole purchaser of Apartment 211, and as one of the purchasers of Apartment 314, in his stead. Mrs Xia says she was told about this on the same day, and that Mr Wei disapproved of it. Mr Wei says that Wen Tao Wei told him on the day he agreed to nominate Na Yu, but before Wen Tao Wei signed the legal document to affect the nomination.
By May 2012 Wen Tao Wei was addicted to the drug crystal methamphetamine.
Disputed 8 May 2012 Mrs Xia alleges that in telephone calls Na Yu asked to borrow $60,000.00 on the basis that she would repay $30,000.00 within 3 weeks.
Mrs Xia alleges that she and Mr Wei did not have that amount, and so she asked her sister in law Wen Tai Wei to supply the funds, giving her Na Yu's bank account number for that purpose.
Agreed 9 May 2012 Wen Tai Wei transfers $60,000.00 in to Na Yu's bank account.
Stated by Na Yu / not agreed 29 May 2012 settlement of the purchases of Apartments 211 and 314.
Wen Tao Wei and Na Yu move into Apartment 211 as their matrimonial home, with their baby.
Wen Tao Wei says that by May 2012 he did not want to remain in the marriage.
Agreed 17 June 2012 Wen Tao Wei and Na Yu separate. (Wen Tao Wei gave evidence that whilst he could not recall the date, the separation occurred when he returned to Apartment 211 after being bailed and Na Yu required him to leave).
2 July 2012 Na Yu pays $20,000.00 to Mrs Qi Yun Xia
Disputed 5 July 2012 Wen Tao Wei says that whilst he cannot recall the date, it was around this time that he first heard about the loan of $60,000.00 having been made to Na Yu.
Agreed 05 July 2012 Wen Tao Wei signs an "IOU" for $38,000.00.
February 2013 Na Yu obtains an Intervention Order against Mr Wen Tao Wei, in a contested hearing
February - March 2013 a draft contract is prepared by solicitors Fong & Co[2]. It was not executed. The parties named in the draft are Yizheng Luo, Na Yu, Mr Wei, "Quiyun Xia" (ie, Mrs Xia) and Wen Tao Wei. It appears to be a work in progress, in that in its Recitals it says that Apartment 314 was sold for $600,000.00 on 21 March 2013 but clause 2 of the operative part refers to an intended sale. Of most relevance to this case, clause 2.2 contained a release by Mr Wei and Mrs Xia of Na Yu.
13 December 2013 Mr Wei and Mrs Xia issue this proceeding against Na Yu, for several amounts including $38,000.00 and $1,600.00.
2 August 2014 Shortly before the Tribunal's first hearing of this case, Wen Tao Wei signs a document to the effect that he did not borrow money from Mr Wei and Mrs Xia in May 2012, and that Na Yu had borrowed the money behind his back.
5 August 2014 first day of the first hearing of this proceeding.[3] Wen Tao Wei did not give evidence.
28 July 2015 Mr Chen Wei and Mrs Qi Yun Xia issue VCAT proceeding C3796/2015 against Wen Tao Wei and Na Yu, claiming $87,250.00 as repayment of a personal loan. In the Application form Mr Wei and Mrs Xia allege that Wen Tao Wei borrowed the money on 25 January 2010, and that when they asked him in January 2012 when he would repay it, he promised to do so when he sold his share of Apartment 314. They allege that Wen Tao Wei did not sell that apartment, and instead he transferred his interest in it to Na Yu. They alleged the transfer was illegal and that as a result both Wen Tao Wei and Na Yu were liable for repayment of the loan.
23 September 2015 proceeding C3796/2015 is struck out against Na Yu, under section 75 of the Victorian Civil and Administrative Tribunal Act 1998[4].
18 November 2015 Mr Wei and Mrs Xia obtain an Order in proceeding C3796/2015, by consent, requiring Wen Tao Wei to pay $87,250.00 plus the filing fee. This Order remains unsatisfied.
I, Wentao Wei, on 25/1/2010 borrowed AUD $54,300.00 from my parents for making the 10% deposit for a real estate located at 211/8 Berkeley St, Doncaster.
I, Wentao Wei, on 25/1/2010 borrowed AUD $32,950.00 from my parents for making the 5% deposit for a real estate located at 314/8 Berkeley St, Doncaster.
I, Wentao Wei, borrowed $38,000.00 Australian Dollars from the parents for paying 5% of the down payment on 211/8 Berkeley St, Doncaster and making loan repayments. The money has been deposited in the account of Na Yu.
My name is Wen Tao Wei. I live in 5 Ralph Street Bulleen, here is my statement below.
In May 2012, I didn't ask my parents to borrow any money, I didn't know that my wife Na Yu borrowed the money off my parents until my parents told me in July. Na Yu did this behind my back while I was away.
I assure that the statement I provided is true and willing to take legal responsibilities.
"If Wentao's mother asks you about property settlement, you just say the settlement made us owe $6,500. After that home loan insurance was 4000 and something dollars./ Are you home or not? / Yes but I have a little bit of fever. / Why have fever? / Do you have $300? / Give you tonight. / Don't ask me anything. Wentao's mother is also here. / Are you at home or not? I don't have any cash. / Don't ask me anything Wentao's mother is here. Anyway I just ask borrow $300 from you. / Also the message I sent before about property settlement. Don't say anything wrong".
I, Wentao Wei, borrowed $38,000.00 Australian Dollars from the parents for paying 5% of the down payment on 211/8 Berkeley St, Doncaster and making loan repayments. The money has been deposited in the account of Na Yu.
He persuaded - yes Wentao Wei was able to persuade his parents to lend him this amount of money because on that day when the discussion was carried out it was at Mr and Ms Xia's home, and then I was there and then I heard Ms Xia say that if she was going to produce this amount of money she would need to borrow from someone else, and then the money will need to be repaid.
Mrs Wen Tai Wei (also called Ying Wei) - evidence in chief
My sister-in-law Qi Yun Xia rang me at the beginning of May, 2012 and said to me, Na Yu asked for money $60,000 to my sister-in-law for the settlement of the apartment in Doncaster in my sister-in-law's home. She told Na Yu that she haven't got the money but she could borrow the money for her.
At that time both Na Yu and her mother were living in my sister-in-law's home. I was told that it's Na Yu borrow the money from my sister-in-law. My sister-in-law gave Na Yu's account number to me that day.
On 8 of May 2012, my sister-in-law rang me again and told me that Na Yu will need these money on the next day for settle. I went to Commonwealth Bank in Brunswick at 9th of May, 2012 and transferred $60,000 to Na Yu's account (account number stated) . I also had a receipt with me at that day. The receipt number is (receipt number stated). I scanned it at the end of year 2012.
Later on my sister-in-law told me Na Yu gave back $22,000 to her in July.
I assure that the above statement are true and will take legal responsibility for this.
Mr Wen Tao Wei - evidence in further cross examination, after his re-examination
(Early in cross examination, when his attention was drawn to an answer he had given in the earlier hearing):
I prefer to use an interpreter. I am not as smart as you are. You confuse me. I do get confused.
Today I lost $500 from work[11]. I am telling the truth. I didn't get any benefit. It is costing me to be here. I told the truth on 5 August 2014, but maybe I misunderstood. I did not give evidence until 3:00 pm, having waited outside from 9:00am. I don't understand which part of the money they were talking about. I was bullied by people who play the game. For today, I am prepared, so I can give the truth. The interpreter in 2014 got it wrong. The words "I give you the money" in Chinese are ambiguous. For example, the phrase could mean that you physically pass the money over, or it could mean that you lend the money. Ambiguity does not help when words are then translated. I gave my answer on 5 August 2014 voluntarily[12], but I didn't prepare that well. I do know the whole story between 2010 and 2012. We were friends and neighbours. I don't want to be nasty to anyone. I want to give the truth. I know Na Yu is a single mother but I want to give the truth.
[I note at this point that the draft agreement, which on its face appears to be a second draft, says in clause 2 that the parties agree to cause Apartment 314 to be sold, whereas recital I says that the apartment was sold for $600,000 on 21 March 2013. Clause 2.1 says that the parties agree that from the proceeds of sale the agents' commission and legal fees be paid, the mortgage be discharged, and then the balance be shared equally by Mr Luo and Na Yu. Whilst on the figures it does not appear that there would have been much equity in the property once those fees were paid and the mortgage discharged, it is folly for Mr Luo to say that the agreement had nothing to do with him, because he was a joint owner of the Apartment and the document was providing for its sale and the manner in which the proceeds of sale were to be dealt with].
Q: So did you understand his parents to be supportive of him?
Q: Sir, might I suggest more than $80,000 is a lot of help isn't it, in 2010? It's a lot of help isn't it?
Q: Yes, and another $60,000 in May 2012. That is a lot of help too isn't it?
Q: You know of course that Mr Senior Wei and his wife were very supportive of their son in helping to settle these apartments, don't you?
Q: You had discussions with your friend Mr Tao Wei Junior in May 2012 didn't you?
Q: You understand, don't you, that in May 2012 Mr Tao Junior was able to persuade his parents to pay $60,000 towards a settlement of the apartments; you know that don't you?
A: (Through Interpreter) He persuaded - yes Wentao Wei was able to persuade his parents to lend him this amount of money because on that day when the discussion was carried out it was at Mr and Ms Xia's home, and then I was there and then I heard Ms Xia say that if she was going to produce this amount of money she would need to borrow from someone else, and then the money will need to be repaid.
[The transcript then indicates that Mr Wei interrupted Mr Luo's evidence]
[I pause here to note that Mr Luo's grasp of English and Mandarin is damaging to his attempts to rely on a misunderstanding. It would be damaging enough if Mr Luo spoke no English but acknowledged that he knew that he could tell the interpreter if he did not understand a question. That alone would make it difficult for him to sustain the position that he had misunderstood. But because Mr Luo speaks both English and Mandarin, he could understand the question put by Na Yu's barrister in English, he could understand the Mandarin translation of the question, and after he answered in Mandarin he could understand the interpreter's translation of his answer. In these circumstances, and given Mr Lou's acknowledgements, I reject any suggestion that Mr Luo could have had a misunderstanding of either the questions put to him or his answers, in August 2014 or in the hearing before me].
[If I pause again, this distinction drawn by Mr Luo within the question asked of him in August 2014 is legitimate in terms of linguistics, but is rather subtle. It is like distinguishing between a person who is able to climb a mountain in theory, with a person who actually climbs the mountain. The fact that Mr Luo could draw such a distinction, persuades me that Mr Luo was untruthful when he gave evidence that he could not remember the answer he had given in August 2014].
Yes that money from the parents was lent to him and at the time the conversation was carried out at the home and Mrs Xia said she had to borrow the money, and so the money is lent to him.
Mr Luo said that the above translation was correct.
Yes, persuade parents to lend him the money. Because that day I remember when we talked about it, it was in Lin Tao's home and Mrs Xia also said if she has to come up with this sum of money she has to borrow it from her relatives therefore this money at the time was lent to him.
[NOTE: There is no person in this proceeding by the name of LinTao, and the interpreter said that she could have heard Wen Tao. I conclude that she did hear Wen Tao. Further, I place the last word 'him' in italics because the interpreter said that in Mandarin there is no grammatical difference between male and female].
He borrowed - yes Wentao Wei was able to borrow his parents to lend him this amount of money...
Q: So, the truth is that Wen Tao Wei could persuade his parents to lend him money?
Q: You know your friend was able to persuade his parents to lend him $60,000, correct?
Interpreter: Mandarin has no tense - "I don't know" could mean "I didn't know".
A: I didn't have a chance to clarify that and I was nervous. ... I didn't mention time in my answer. And I wanted to clarify whether persuade meant borrow.
What I know is that Mr Wei junior was not able to produce this amount of money for the settlement, and then also, when the properties were transferred under Na Yu, and then Na Yu also told me that Mr Wei junior was not able to produce this money, so - and then I understand that the settlement money would be from Mr Wei senior and Ms Xia, but I didn't know what was the discussion among them, between Mr Wei junior with senior Wei and Ms Xia, or with your client.
Last time, you (Na Yu's barrister) asked me what I knew in the settlement time. Before settlement I knew Wen Tao Wei transferred property to Yu Na. I didn't know how they negotiated it. Now I say I know she borrowed from them because we stayed in the property together for more than six months and during that time she spoke to me and sent me SMSs. When we were to sell Apartment 314, Na Yu asked me to see a lawyer and also enter an agreement. She asked me to take the contract to Mr Chen Wei and Ms Xia, to promise that they would not seek payment of debt from her. Therefore I know there were debts between them. That's all.
[In other words, the facts that Mr Wei and Ms Xia asserted that Na Yu owed them money, and that in the draft agreement Na Yu sought a release, causes Mr Luo to conclude that Na Yu did owe them money. This is illogical].
My meaning was that Wen Tao Wei had already borrowed money from his parents. It was a discussion within the family. We didn't separate the deposit and the settlement money. It was a whole sum therefore I knew that he had borrowed money from his parents, because of the deposit and I knew that the money was borrowed, but I didn't know who.
I didn't know who borrowed, meaning at the meeting I didn't know. But later I did know because Yu Na gave signs and I came to know. She sent me SMSs. She let me cover up her lies.
Q: You know of course that Mr Senior Wei and his wife were very supportive of their son in helping to settle these apartments, don't you?
[1] See The Sisters Windfarm Pty Ltd v Moyne SC [2012] VSC 324 per Emerton J. Citing another authority her Honour said that the effect of a remission was to "wipe the slate clean".
[2] Mr Wei and Mrs Xia tendered a bundle of documents in the hearing. This draft contract was "A4"
[3] The proceeding was heard on 5 August and 7 October 2014. The claim was dismissed. On 22 December 2015 the appeal by Mr Chen Wei and Mrs Qi Yun was allowed and the matter remitted for a new hearing. The barristers who appeared for Mr Chen Wei and Mrs Qi Yun Xia in the appeal did not appear in either VCAT hearing.
[4] A proceeding may be struck out if it is "frivolous, vexatious, misconceived or lacking in substance; or
[5] The translator was Dr Zhiyi, who holds NAATI certificate no 29181. In her evidence, Mrs Xia confirmed that the translations were accurate
[6] Mrs Xia literally said "sister" but by this she meant her "sister-in-law" Ms Wen Tai Wei. This may be Mandarin usage
[7] Mrs Xia literally said "receipt" but she was referring to the document headed "IOU"
[8] Needless to say, Mrs Xia is in no position to give evidence of what Mr Luo experienced.
[9] Mr Wei interrupted her evidence at this point but Mrs Xia continued
[10] Document "A1" in the bundle that they had filed on 6 June 2016
[11] Meaning, by taking time off to attend to give evidence
[12] This is a reference to an important piece of Mr Luo's evidence in the hearing on 15 August 2014, which I will come to
[13] Which is an interesting contrast to his assertion that "I do know the whole story between 2010 and 2012".
[14] The interpreter in the hearing on 20 and 21 July 2016, Ms Hollitt, was under oath as the interpreter. She said that there are no "word for word translations" from Mandarin to English and it was necessary for an interpreter to convey concepts. She said that her translation in the hearing before me was correct. As an example, the translator noted that an English sentence may well contain an expression such as " X was done to him" or " X was done to her" whereas in Mandarin grammar there is no difference between the male and female.
[15] (1984) 53 ALR 39; BC8400530
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(1984) 53 ALR 39