MERKEL J: Why do you say that you've paid the same bills twice? You got a final notice and you [paid them by bank cheque and you produced the details of that before Hely J, yes, but why do you say the same bill has been paid twice? That's what I don't understand.
MR TSEKOURAS: I paid them 23,000 to pay the bills, the bills not be paid so I pay the final notice and the 23,000. This money all this go, come out of my bank account.
MERKEL J: Why do you say the 23,000 was for bills paid by you? It was a different bill, it is suggested.
MR TSEKOURAS: No, the same bill, the same bill it's over here, the bank cheque.
MERKEL J: See, your solicitors, Carrol & O'Dea paid that money to Ms Evangelinidis, $23,000.
THE INTERPRETER: I paid that to Carrol & O'Dea.
MERKEL J: You paid that to Carrol & O'Dea, they paid it to Ms Evangelinidis.
MR TSEKOURAS: That's correct, yes.
MERKEL J: Yes, well, the question I asked you before is, why do you say the same money has been paid twice?
THE INTERPRETER: I paid that money and I paid the bills.
GOLDBERG J: Which bills?
THE INTERPRETER: No, it's the bills that were coming for the doctors.
MR TSEKOURAS: For private investigators.
THE INTERPRETER: For private investigators and whatever else was needed it was coming to me, final notice and I pay it.
MERKEL J: The money that was paid to Ms Evangelinidis was for a different amount owing to her for her work in the Supreme Court proceedings.
THE INTERPRETER: No. It was the money I gave it to Ms Evangelinidis to pay the bills.
MERKEL J: Was there any document in the court book that shows that you paid the same bill twice? You paid it once to Ms Evangelinidis and once directly to the people who were owed the money. Is there anything in the court book that shows that that happened?
THE INTERPRETER: In the book?
MERKEL J: Yes.
THE INTERPRETER: Yes.
MERKEL J: Show me which page in the court book that that appears, just any one payment.
THE INTERPRETER: I paid all this money that I show there, I indicated page 51 and the cheques are there that I pay. That indicating page 151 and that indicating the cheque butt.
MERKEL J: Yes, but that show that the 23,000 was to be paid to Carrol & O'Dea and Carrol & O'Dea paid that same amount to the solicitor. How does Mr Tsekouras show that he paid $23,000 to her on another occasion or there's a double payment, that's what I don't understand.
THE INTERPRETER: She keep the money and I pay this on top.
MERKEL J: Yes, thank you."