[2025] FCA 1124
General information, not legal advice.
Federal Court of Australia
2025-09-12
Neskovcin J
Original judgment source is linked above.
Note: Entry of orders is dealt with in Rule 39.32 of the Federal Court Rules 2011.
(a) during a transition period, Torc LLC would continue to supply Torc LLC products to Torc Solutions until the current inventory of Torc LLC product was exhausted or the Torc LLC business was wound down, on fundamentally the same terms and conditions as the Distributor Agreement, whereupon Hytorc would supply Torc Solutions with Torc LLC branded products, on fundamentally the same terms and conditions as the Distributor Agreement (which Torc Solutions called the "Variation Agreement"); and
(b) at the end of the transition period, Hytorc would supply Torc Solutions with Torc Solutions branded products, on fundamentally the same terms and conditions as the Distributor Agreement (which Torc Solutions called the "Hytorc Agreement").
I think a good option is that like Eric said we have stock and you can sort ... continue to promote the brand that you are currently promoting which is Torc [LLC], while starting to you know, hey, we're going to [be] making our own, or you know what ... however it's mentioned. You know whatever form that you want to take, oh we've sold the partnership or we'll be making our own but it will be made in the US and at the same time working in, so it's going to be compatible with what you previously purchased from us with Torc. You know the goal is not to leave you or your customers, or anybody high and dry and just, you know shut it down and scrap it.
... I thin[k] guys you got off the point here. I mean we're talking about a private label agreement with locked in prices and now we're getting granular ... Those things I can certainly work with Brian on, can figure out. I do all the pricing for Hytorc so you'll have me at your disposal. Adrian knows me well. He knows how I operate. I, you know, I've always supported him when he was a Hytorc rep and I always will and I'll support you guys when you're a [Hytorc] customer that just get private label tools hopefully in the very near future. This is not something that we're pulling the plug on this week. This is something that is being phased out. This is something that we would love to see you to work closely with Brian, who's your friend, to come up with an agreement that can be put in front [sic] Eric. I'll be happy to work with Brian on the backend to ensure the agreement is fair, its consistent, what we're offering other people. We'll lock in the pricing. We'll try to improve on the operation, I think that's going to happen naturally by cutting out all these middlemen and then you guys being treated as a Hytorc customer rather than a Torc distributor or sales agent and I think we should focus on building a positive relationship here rather than you know, going back and looking at what happened under the Torc helm or under the Hytorc/Torc relationship. I haven't really been involved with the Torc sort of operations, I'm not involved in any of that so I'm not privy to any of this ... but I can assure you that when you become a Hytorc customer, under the private label agreement, you will have my support and I will work to make sure that you guys are satisfied. I mean listen, it's in my best interests if you guys sell the ... out of the product, wherever in South East Asia, in Australia, in Indonesia and you Papua New Guinea, in New Zealand. I don't give a ... where. I mean it's in my best interests to see you guys sell 500 tools a year so, I'm going to work to make sure that Adrian and yourself are in a position to do that.
Well that's all the, [they're] all the details we need to see in an agreement Brian so that we can say look, we think we can make this work or not.
... let's get the terms down, put the terms better that need to be put down in the agreement and we'll certainly take it from there
Eric: Let's get it down in writing, and we'll put something forward to you and then we can take it from there and these concerns about what the other guys are going to do, I hear you, but I think we can address it ... put something in writing, I'll put it on the website, I'll do whatever needs to be done in order to be able to squash that and coupled with a transition plan and I think in the end, I really do think that this is a new beginning and something that you guys can really run with and I think it's something that, you know I guess my frustration a little bit comes from like I thought, I thought this was a good thing and obviously you guys clearly don't and so I'm you know whatever.
David: Well maybe your perception change slightly after this call cause it seems like maybe you didn't have the full picture.
Andrew: Well we clearly didn't.
Adrian: We didn't. We're not irrational people. We, you know, if we've got all the information in hand then we, you know, we're savvy enough to work through it and understand it so right now you guys put something together, we get an agreement in place at the moment that just well I guess will just continue on until such time as the next you know the next agreement comes along
Andrew: Like I don't expect that it's going to be a week turnaround now but it'll be, I'd be really keen to know how you're going to be able to home brand without us having to carry a million dollars' worth of stock.
Eric: Yeah I mean we've addressed that with others where you know we had to carry some minimums and we agreed to that in writing that they would get a certain quantity on the shelf at all times to expedite delivery so this isn't, we're in completely like virgin territory of course.
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David: ... typically the top sellers, the 1s, the 3s, the 5s, the 10s, those to be on the shelf, in stock ready to go at a moment's notice. Some of the larger sizes, maybe we'll have 1 or 2 on the shelf rather than 10 but we do put a minimum quantity in stock in place so that we can deliver it. 45XLs, these things of that nature, 60XLs [...] even for Hytorc those have got about a 6 to 8 [week lead] time. Those are a bit of a pain in the ... but I don't think any of the competition really is loading up on stock on those...
Adrian: No no.
Andrew: No it's the bread and better stuff. It's the bread and butter stuff I'm talking about.
David: Yeah the bread and butter stuff, we'll put a minimum stock level, they'll be in place, we'll look at your, we'll talk with you about a purchase history, how many units you move probably every quarter and then we'll put something in place to ensure that you know we have a least a quarter's worth of stock in place and if things, if sales grow, you know we'll grow the stock quantity
Negotiation of the Branded Product Distribution Agreement
Mr. Case - I'm fine with this. And it does not appear that any additional amendments are necessary. Do I have that right? If so, feel free to sign and return a clean copy. Thanks, Justin.
Torc Solutions' naming convention and request for manuals
As we are getting very close to bedding down the new Agreement can you please advise as to how you see the process of us accessing the new tooling (Edge/Versa) happening and the new branding of existing models of tooling and a reliable timeframe?
We have discussed on several occasions the need for the transition to be as smooth as possible. This week we had to decline and [sic] order as the TTZ4 head was unavailable (and subsequently the corresponding link) so want to reduce the impact of the transition.
FYI:
- We propose to retain the current black coloured tooling wherever possible. Both housing and swivels
- Where possible/required we will use a brushed aluminium shrouds to reduce the vast colour variance experienced in anodising
- We will adopt a new naming convention of:
- TTS = TSS
- TTL = TSL
- TTP = TSP
- TTB = TSB
- Edge (Style) TSX
- Versa (style) TSZ
- Hyflow 230 = Hiflow230
- Hyflow Air = Hiflow Air
- Dynamic 230 = Action 230
- Dymamic [sic] Air = Action Air
- If this naming convention is agreed, can we please have a copy of the new User Manual templates so we can start to "home brand" them.
Do you have an example of what the "home branding" labels/stickers will look [like: sic]? We are thinking either the aluminium "badge" in a recess attached with a quality adhesive on the housing OR a high quality PVC (almost 3D) like those on the current TTB (also recessed to protect the badge). Example of PVC attached for reference.
Further negotiations in relation to the insurance clause
Effective immediately, this letter serves as formal written notice of termination of the attached Branded Product Distribution Agreement dated 6 May 2021...
Per Section 4.5, your inability to obtain agreed upon Insurance Coverage constitutes a material breach of the Agreement. Per Section 9.2, HYTORC is exercising its right to terminate the Agreement for material breach upon written notice.
(a) Whether the Variation Agreement, or the Hytorc Agreement, was made at the Teleconference?
(b) Whether Torc Solutions entered into the Branded Product Distribution Agreement by reason of economic duress?
(c) Whether Hytorc and/or Torc LLC engaged in misleading and deceptive conduct?
(d) Whether Hytorc and/or Torc LLC made the alleged misrepresentations?
(e) Whether Hytorc and/or Torc LLC engaged in unconscionable conduct?
(f) Whether Torc Solutions is entitled to loss and damage?
WHETHER BINDING AGREEMENTS WERE MADE IN THE TELECONFERENCE?
(a) during a transition period, Torc LLC would continue to supply Torc LLC products to Torc Solutions until current inventory of Torc LLC product was exhausted or the Torc LLC business was wound down, on fundamentally the same terms and conditions as the Distributor Agreement, whereupon Hytorc would supply Torc Solutions with Torc LLC branded products, on fundamentally the same terms and conditions as the Distributor Agreement (which Torc Solutions called the "Variation Agreement");
(b) at the end of the transition period, Hytorc would supply Torc Solutions with Torc Solutions branded products, on fundamentally the same terms and conditions as the Distributor Agreement (which Torc Solutions called the "Hytorc Agreement").
A contract need not be made by formal offer and acceptance, or by an overt course of negotiation. Entry into a contract can be found in the conduct of the parties, in what they said and did towards each other. In Integrated Computer Services Pty Ltd v Digital Equipment Corp (Aust) Pty Ltd (1988) 5 BPR 97326 McHugh JA, with whom Hope and Mahoney JJA agreed, said at 11,117:
"It is often difficult to fit a commercial arrangement into the common lawyers' analysis of a contractual arrangement. Commercial discussions are often too unrefined to fit easily into the slots of 'offer', 'acceptance', 'consideration' and 'intention to create a legal relationship' which are the benchmarks of the contract of classical theory. In classical theory, the typical contract is a bilateral one and consists of an exchange of promises by means of an offer and its acceptance together with an intention to create a binding legal relationship. cf Atiyah, 'Contracts, Promises and the Law of Obligations' 94 Law Quarterly Review at 194. A bilateral contract of this type exists independently of and indeed precedes what the parties do. Consequently, it is an error 'to suppose that merely because something has been done then there is therefore some contract in existence which has thereby been executed': Howard, 'Contract, Reliance and Business Transactions' [1987] Journal of Business Law at 127. Nevertheless, a contract may be inferred from the acts and conduct of parties as well as or in the absence of their words: Empirnall Holdings Pty Ltd v Machon Paull Partners Pty Ltd (Court of Appeal) (11/11/88). The question in this class of case is whether the conduct of the parties viewed in the light of the surrounding circumstances shows a tacit understanding or agreement."
... [A] contract may be inferred from the acts and conduct of parties as well as or in the absence of their words ... The question in this class of case is whether the conduct of the parties, viewed in the light of the surrounding circumstances, shows a tacit understanding or agreement ... The conduct of the parties, however, must be capable of proving all the essential elements of an express contract ... Care must also be taken not to infer anterior promises from conduct which represents no more than an adjustment of their relationship in the light of changing circumstances ... Moreover, in an ongoing relationship, it is not always easy to point to the precise moment when the legal criteria of a contract have been fulfilled. Agreements concerning terms and conditions which might be too uncertain or too illusory to enforce at a particular time in the relationship may by reason of the parties' subsequent conduct become sufficiently specific to give rise to legal rights and duties. In a dynamic commercial relationship new terms will be added or will supersede older terms. It is necessary therefore to look at the whole relationship and not only at what was said and done when the relationship was first formed.
[10] ... it is now accepted that the existence of a contract can be established or inferred where a manifestation of mutual assent must be implied from the circumstances.
[11] It is important to emphasise that the circumstances in which a contract will be inferred, otherwise than by the traditional analysis of offer and acceptance, will be rare. It seems to me that the position was well summarised by Sundberg J in Adnunat Pty Ltd v ITW Construction Systems Australia Pty Ltd when he said:
A contract may in certain circumstances be inferred from conduct, even where no offer and acceptance can be identified ... However the existence or otherwise of an enforceable agreement depends ultimately on the manifest intention of the parties, objectively ascertained ... Where mutual promises are sought to be inferred, the conduct relied upon must, on an objective assessment, evince a tacit agreement with sufficiently clear terms. It is not enough that the conduct is consistent with what are alleged to be the terms of a binding agreement. The evidence must positively indicate that both parties considered themselves bound by that agreement ...
[12] In determining if an agreement has been made in this way regard must be had to the entirety of the relevant conduct. The precise point in time at which the agreement comes into existence may not be clear, and the relationship between the parties themselves may be dynamic in such a way that the terms of the agreement might be added to or superseded over time.
[13] In this context the absence of non-essential terms, or a lack of agreement on non-essential terms, will not invalidate the existence or effective operation of a binding contract.
[Emphasis in original]
[Footnotes omitted]
...the[y']re all the details we need to see in an agreement Brian so that we can say look, we think we can make this work or not ...
...we would be really keen to see something in writing as a starting point as to what this arrangement could look like before we made a decision
Let's get it down in writing, and we'll put something forward to you and then we can take it from there ...
...let us get together, put something in writing, get it back to you and then try and firm this up
Andrew has instructed me at this point to continue using all pricing structures that we have in place with Torc LLC.
We have a large quote that needs to be submitted today, please confirm these will be honoured.
If you see any potential issues arising from this, please let me know urgently!
Rach, please continue to use the pricing you have. The errors were due to importing into the Hytorc system. The price levels were interrupted.
... The rationale of the doctrine of economic duress is that the law will not give effect to an apparent consent which was induced by pressure exercised upon one party by another party when the law regards that pressure as illegitimate ...
... The proper approach in my opinion is to ask whether any applied pressure induced the victim to enter into the contract and then ask whether that pressure went beyond what the law is prepared to countenance as legitimate? Pressure will be illegitimate if it consists of unlawful threats or amounts to unconscionable conduct. But the categories are not closed. Even overwhelming pressure, not amounting to unconscionable or unlawful conduct, however, will not necessarily constitute economic duress.
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It is unnecessary, however, for the victim to prove that the illegitimate pressure was the sole reason for him entering into the contract. It is sufficient that the illegitimate pressure was one of the reasons for the person entering into the agreement.
WHETHER TORC LLC AND/OR HYTORC ENGAGED IN MISLEADING AND DECEPTIVE CONDUCT?
(a) following the intended closure of Torc LLC there would be a private label arrangement between Hytorc and Torc Solutions, in which Hytorc would supply Torc Solutions tools to be sold under Torc Solutions' own brand;
(b) there would be the "Transition Arrangements" whereby Hytorc would continue to supply Torc Solutions with Torc LLC branded products as the parties transitioned across to home branded tooling;
(c) after the Transition Arrangements, the supplier to Torc Solutions of torque tools would be Hytorc, the tools and replacement parts would not be Torc LLC branded products and the branding of the products would be Torc Solutions;
(d) Torc Solutions would be one of a number of distributors with whom Hytorc would enter into private label arrangements;
(e) the Transition Arrangements would continue for the "Transition Period", being the period during which Torc LLC would continue to supply Torc LLC tools until the current inventory of Torc LLC was exhausted or the Torc LLC was wound down, whichever occurred first.
(a) Torc Solutions submitted a large quantity order based on its own assessment of projected sales for 6-12 months;
(b) Torc Solutions accepted financial responsibility for that order by paying for the order and the products would be inventory of Torc Solutions (that is to say, that there would be no consignment arrangement and the products would be stored at Torc Solutions' premises);
(c) the making of home branded tools for all home branded tool distributors, not only for Torc Solutions, was financially viable for Hytorc.
A person must not, in trade or commerce, engage in conduct that is misleading or deceptive or is likely to mislead or deceive.
(a) the first step is to identify with precision the "conduct" said to contravene the provisions - that is, the relevant representation that was made;
(b) the second step is to consider whether the identified conduct or representation was engaged in or made in "trade or commerce";
(c) the third step is to consider what meaning that conduct or representation conveyed to its intended audience; and
(d) the fourth step is to determine, in light of that meaning, whether the conduct or representation was misleading or deceptive in the requisite sense for the purposes of s 18 of the ACL.
[14] In determining whether there has been a contravention of s 52 of the Trade Practices Act, it is necessary to determine "whether in the light of all relevant circumstances constituted by acts, omissions, statements or silence, there has been conduct which is or is likely to be misleading or deceptive". The term "conduct" is to be understood according to its definition in s 4(2)(a) and (b) of the Trade Practices Act, which includes a reference to "refusing to do any act". That, in turn, includes a reference to "refraining (otherwise than inadvertently) from doing that act".
[15] For conduct to be misleading or deceptive it is not necessary that it convey express or implied representations. It suffices that it leads or is likely to lead into error. ...
[16] The circumstances in which silence or non-disclosure of information can be misleading or deceptive are various. The understanding of the place of silence or non-disclosure in the characterisation of conduct as misleading or deceptive was affected, in early decisions on s 52, by the view that the section was concerned with misrepresentations that would have been actionable under the general law. That view was linked to the proposition, expressed in Taco Co of Australia Inc v Taco Bell Pty Ltd, that conduct could not be misleading or deceptive for the purposes of s 52 unless it conveyed a misrepresentation. It was also linked to the proposition that at general law "mere silence, with regard to a material fact, which there is no legal obligation to divulge, will not avoid a contract, although it operate as an injury to the party from whom it is concealed". In the early development of the law about misleading or deceptive conduct, there were rather cautiously expressed views about the role of silence, albeit the importance of the statutory words was acknowledged.
[17] The 1992 decision of the Full Court of the Federal Court in Demagogue Pty Ltd v Ramensky represented what has been described accurately as "an emphatic acknowledgement ... of the unique nature of the statutory prohibition". The Full Court upheld the decision of the primary judge that a vendor of land had created a clear but erroneous impression in the purchasers that there was nothing unusual concerning access to the land and, in particular, had been silent as to the necessity of a grant of a licence by a statutory authority to enable such access.
[18] Gummow J, who wrote the leading judgment and with whom Black CJ and Cooper J agreed, said:
"it should be no inhibition to giving effect to what, on its proper construction, is provided for in the legislation, that the result may be to achieve consequences and administer remedies which differ from those otherwise obtaining under the general law."
Silence, as Black CJ said in his concurring judgment, was to be assessed as a circumstance like any other:
"the question is simply whether, having regard to all the relevant circumstances, there has been conduct that is misleading or deceptive or that is likely to mislead or deceive."
Gummow J referred to the limitation that "unless the circumstances are such as to give rise to the reasonable expectation that if some relevant fact exists it would be disclosed, it is difficult to see how mere silence could support the inference that the fact does not exist".
[19] The language of reasonable expectation is not statutory. It indicates an approach which can be taken to the characterisation, for the purposes of s 52, of conduct consisting of, or including, non-disclosure of information. That approach may differ in its application according to whether the conduct is said to be misleading or deceptive to members of the public, or whether it arises between entities in commercial negotiations. An example in the former category is non-disclosure of material facts in a prospectus.
[20] In commercial dealings between individuals or individual entities, characterisation of conduct will be undertaken by reference to its circumstances and context. Silence may be a circumstance to be considered. The knowledge of the person to whom the conduct is directed may be relevant. Also relevant, as in the present case, may be the existence of common assumptions and practices established between the parties or prevailing in the particular profession, trade or industry in which they carry on business. The judgment which looks to a reasonable expectation of disclosure as an aid to characterising non-disclosure as misleading or deceptive is objective. It is a practical approach to the application of the prohibition in s 52.
[Footnotes omitted]
Silence is itself a fact that must be assessed like any other and, unless the circumstances as a whole are such as to give rise to a reasonable expectation of disclosure of some relevant fact known to exist but not communicated, there is no basis on which silence of itself can warrant an inference of a representation that the fact does not exist.
Consideration of the misleading and deceptive conduct claim
(a) whether, at the Teleconference or by their subsequent conduct, Hytorc or Torc LLC represented that following the intended closure of Torc LLC there would be a private label arrangement between Hytorc and Torc Solutions, in which Hytorc would supply Torc Solutions tools to be sold under Torc Solutions' own brand and, furthermore, that there would be the Transition Arrangements, whereby Hytorc would continue to supply Torc Solutions with Torc LLC branded products as the parties transitioned across to home branded tooling;
(b) whether, at the Teleconference or by their subsequent conduct, Hytorc or Torc LLC represented that Torc Solutions would be one of a number of distributors with whom Hytorc would enter into private label arrangements;
(c) whether Hytorc represented that it intended to create and supply home branded tools to Torc Solutions;
(d) whether the representation was false because Torc Solutions established that Hytorc "resolved" that it would not commence to make home branded tools until Hytorc's Conditions were satisfied; and
(e) whether Hytorc had the Termination Strategy?
Whether Hytorc or Torc LLC represented that there would be a private label arrangement and there would be the Transition Arrangements?
Whether Hytorc or Torc LLC represented that Torc Solutions would be one of a number of distributors with whom Hytorc would enter into private label arrangements?
Whether Hytorc represented that it intended to create and supply home branded tools to Torc Solutions?
Conduct of the parties in relation to orders for Torc Solutions branded products and the steps taken by Hytorc towards creating Torc Solutions branded products
Dave and Eric, please see below. Are you okay with the naming they have chosen or is there anything you would like changed?
Calvin, can you please provide final dimensions of where the model numbers and branding will go so Torc Solutions can provide artwork for the respective tool models.
Christian [Wright], what are your thoughts on inventory and transitioning to have these products available to put the appropriate label[l]ing on? We have the opportunity here to manage expectations and give ourselves ample lead times to get this set up. Have we started receiving in non-branded tools?
I think we can go with metal plates, flat or puffy stickers. All will work and we should choose the most cost effective option as well as what works best.
We can use the existing inventory to a point. The situation is that we told them the brand was done and we would move forward with a private label. We can push out having the inventory ready while we deplete the existing stock. The challenges are that we are out of stock on the TTZ 4 and TTX 7. Since the Versa and TTZ are not compatible they will resist selling their branded Versa with the TTZ. I am certain they will also pushback on us providing mixed inventory branding as they will want to promote their own brand.
Couple things from my end.
-Mike Shannon should be looped in here as he is the product coordinator on the private label EDGE and VERSA tooling of the future. Yes it is as easy as simply making labels for those new tools but the challenge is these tools will not be available in all models until the end of the year.
@Mike please provide a schedule of EDGE and VERSA private label tooling options so Brian is aware and can share this with this potential private label dealer
-In the meantime, we can't commit to this with TORC Solution until we have the stock. That said, let's sell what we have to them between now and then.
-As for the MXT tool lines we don't have plans to purchase any more of these going forward but we do have PLENTY of stock to move. XLCT remains a viable product and will continued to be order [sic] and in stock. Why don't we do what we were doing to support the TTL and TTS.
[Weren't] we simply just recoloring and engraving the XLCT head and MXT wrench? XLCT links stayed the same as they were black and have no engravings on them.
Brian,
I'm not following this. Are we using the stock that we ... currently have on hand (my preference), or are we looking to order new inventory to satisfy? We have many tools/pumps to go through. Why aren't we just using those? If that's not possible with the Case's, lets come up with some ideas on what we can do, like putting the units into rental kits. One could say they prefer certain types of tools, but many times, they will not care. That, or we just treat these like the prostitute tools, and drop the price in case of emergency. Not sure we have enough tools to do this though... Either way we need a plan. We have 1000+ pieces in stock. Without a plan, this will take eons to go through.
Let me know your thoughts.
As always I am going to do everything I can to help you and make this run as smooth as possible. My next step in doing this is working with our product development and procurement team to have everything we need to support your efforts. Can you please provide a three year forecast of tool sales so I can work to ensure we have everything needed with minimal or no delay.
Model 1 & 2 are in stock but just need to get labels made to be able to ship
Model 4 is in production, ETA is 8 weeks
Model 8 and 14 waiting to find out how quickly it can be implemented as some are being made we just don't know what version of the tool, will keep you posted
Hi Brian,
Regarding the advice that "Model 4 is in production, ETA is 8 weeks".
Can we please have this expedited. 8 weeks is ridiculous time to expect a customer to wait ... in fact we are about to lose another sale due to this issue.
The latest situation:
I have a Mining company who have been to their preferred tool supplier, Enerpac for 3500ft/lb cassette tool and 55mm link. Enerpac have a 4 week lead time. The customer laughed at them so they have rang Torc Solutions. Im [sic] now in a situation where I have to quote a TTL8 with a 55 link (small A/F for a 8000ft/lb tool) or an 8 week lead time?
The Versa style 4 would be perfect and affordable.
The order includes a pump so would be nice to win and potentially win across a large customer from Enerpac.
I thought the Versa 4 just had to have the brand machined out and TS sticker affixed?
Hi Brian,
Can we please have an update on these tools please:
TSZ4 (versa) x 3
TSZ8 (versa) x 1
Based on previous advice these should be ready now even allowing for contingency?
For now we will have to continue to source the TTS for you as we are just in the somewhat early stages of revamping the MXT to be unengraved to accommodate the private label[l]ed TSS. Do you think you would be able to tell me about how many tools you forecast needing in the next 6 months? Nothing I would hold you to but it would give me a number to shoot to have done and keep in stock of the TTS while we work on the TSS.
Dave/Brian,
Not sure who can best assist us regarding this matter - but seems we have begun taking sales for the "Torc Solutions" products from parties that are allowed to buy these.
So I need some information so I can move forward down here with the team.
1. Are we re-labeling or re-engraving remaining TORC tools in our stock to TORC Solutions? If so - we need to figure out how we plan to do this and what vendor will do the work or provide us with the new stickers.
2. Do we plan to begin manufacturing TORC Solution tools through our vendors via Procurement? If so - we need to create all skus and know the pricing on these so I can get them all set up and on order.
3. Can we supply existing TORC tools in place of TORC Solutions tools in the interim period?
So you both understand - we are running low on the TORC model tools - that being said we would have to then resort to sending out HYTORC Tools to re-work to the TORC or TORC Solutions versions. At this time, we really don't have a good option in terms of a vendor that can do this work efficiently (or at a good price either).
So please fill us in on the plan here so we can avoid it being a big problem.
Mike is 100% right here.
Brian
You need to give us some direction from TORC Solutions. They are at the point where they should be a stocking distributor, period. Especially at their price levels. That means we need a forecast and stock order. XLCT Links are easy but power heads are not. So long as they are ok with say a 6-8 week lead time to have XLCT or MXT tools engraved and re-anodizing then I suggest they place some orders now.
[Can] you have that conversation with them to avoid huffing and puffing from Andrew and problems for us down the road. I have no problem keeping some extra stock when we place the sizeable PL order but we do need a stocking order.
Adding Mike Shannon to this chain as well. I know the EDGE tools have a pocket for a label that I believe were put on order last week per Fried's email. Should have been on order before then but I digress. What about the VERSA Line. I don't think they are coming with pocket [presently] but rather have VERSA engraved, right Mike. What is the plan here should TORC SOLUTION want TTZ's aka our VERSA once we depleted TTZ stock.
Conclusion on whether Hytorc intended to supply Torc Solutions branded tools and whether such supply was subject to Hytorc's Conditions
(a) blank tools to which Torc Solutions affixed a sticker; and
(b) ten blank tools which were engraved with Torc Solutions' naming convention for TSZ tools as follows:
(i) 3 TSZ tools shipped on 28 June 2021;
(ii) 1 TSZ tool shipped on 12 July 2021;
(iii) 1 TSZ tool shipped on 31 July 2021;
(iv) 2 TSZ tools shipped on 7 February 2022;
(v) 2 TSZ tools shipped on 26 April 2022; and
(vi) 1 TSZ tool shipped on 30 April 2022.
Most of you will appreciate, to gain access to these tools and secure the deal, we, (Torc Solutions) have had to commit to significant volume of sales ...
Please find attached several new price lists.
They include:
· Price List for INTERIM Torc Tools and equipment as of 1 July 2021. This includes soon to be redundant brand. We will be supplying Torc LLC products "while stocks last" at the revised prices.
· Price list for Torc Solutions equipment as we transition across as the Torc LLC stock runs out. Please note point above as unfortunately this is not a matter of requesting Torc Solutions brand in preference. ...
While we appreciate the inconvenience during the transition to the Torc Solutions brand while we run down the Torc LLC stock, there are several considerable benefits, in the foreseeable future, Viz;
- You now have a unique brand that we can market to customers
- You now have a budget priced range of tools (TSX and TSZ) that are sustainable in the longer term and we believe it is stronger than our previous product offering in this space
- You now have a complete range that parallels product lines of a key competitor at MUCH lower prices across the board ...
Were the Hytorc or Distributor Agreements 'forever' agreements?
My Lords, an agreement de futuro, extending over a tract of time which, on the face of the instrument, is indefinite and unlimited, must (in general) throw upon anyone alleging that it is not perpetual, the burden of proving that allegation, either from the nature of the subject, or from some rules applicable thereto.
All of these considerations, so far from introducing any implication from the nature of the subject-matter, or from any rule of law, against the natural import of the unlimited terms (as to time) in which this particular agreement is expressed tend to confirm the prima facie conclusion that an agreement expressed in such indefinite terms is to have unlimited duration. The whole circumstances under which this agreement was made, and its particular terms, support the same conclusion.
In the present case the agreement does not provide in terms for any time limit or for any right of withdrawal by either party. Prima facie, therefore, the agreement continues in force for an indefinite period.
Accordingly, it appears to me that I have to approach the determination of this question not with any presumption in favour of permanence; and, indeed, if there is any presumption at all, it would seem to me to be a presumption the other way. It is to be borne in mind that this agreement is one in a commercial or mercantile field. No case was cited to me where it has been held that this doctrine of irrevocability applies to a contract in the commercial or mercantile field, and I do not feel that the law merchant would normally look at such an agreement as this as being an agreement intended to constitute permanent relationships. For example, I have little doubt that the law merchant would regard a contract for sale of 100 tons of coal monthly at a fixed price, no period being specified, as a contract determinable on reasonable notice.
When the question arises whether a commercial agreement for an indefinite period may be terminated, the answer depends upon whether the agreement contains an implied term to that effect... the existence of the term is a matter of construction. But the question of construction does not depend only upon a textual examination of the words or writings of the parties. It also involves consideration of the subject matter of the agreement, the circumstances in which it was made, and the provisions to which the parties have or have not agreed... the weight of twentieth century authority makes it difficult to hold that there is any presumption of perpetuity in the case of commercial agreements.
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In principle, the better view would seem to be that, although there is presumption against implying a term that an agreement is terminable, ordinarily the nature of a commercial agreement will lead to the conclusion that the parties must have intended it to be terminable on notice.
Consideration as to whether the Distributor Agreement was a 'forever' agreement
WHETHER HYTORC AND/OR TORC LLC ENGAGED IN UNCONSCIONABLE CONDUCT?
(a) Hytorc was in a dominant bargaining position because it supplied Torc LLC tools which were essential to the viability of its business;
(b) the pressure that was exerted on and used against Torc Solutions, being Hytorc's Threat, was an unfair tactic;
(c) the unconscionable conduct occurred when Torc Solutions could not have acquired identical or equivalent goods or services other than from Hytorc;
(d) at the time of the unconscionable conduct, there was a contract between Hytorc as supplier and Torc Solutions as customer for the supply of goods, namely, the Variation Agreement and the Hytorc Agreement;
(e) at the time of the unconscionable conduct, Hytorc was not willing to negotiate the terms and conditions of the Branded Product Distribution Agreement regarding Hytorc's right to terminate the supply arrangements and Torc Solutions in substance had no choice as to provisions within the Branded Product Distribution Agreement about that right;
(f) the effect of the Branded Product Distribution Agreement was that, instead of the Hytorc Agreement which contained the 'forever' covenant, Hytorc had the contractual right to terminate the Branded Product Distribution Agreement upon six months' written notice without cause and Hytorc also introduced an insurance requirement, which was not a requirement of the Hytorc Agreement;
(g) Hytorc had Hytorc's Intention and did not supply Torc Solutions with Torc Solutions branded products as contemplated by the Hytorc Agreement; and
(h) by Hytorc's Intention, Hytorc did not act in good faith.
21 Unconscionable conduct in connection with goods or services
(1) A person must not, in trade or commerce, in connection with:
(a) the supply or possible supply of goods or services to a person; or
(b) the acquisition or possible acquisition of goods or services from a person;
engage in conduct that is, in all the circumstances, unconscionable.
...
(3) For the purpose of determining whether a person has contravened subsection (1):
(a) the court must not have regard to any circumstances that were not reasonably foreseeable at the time of the alleged contravention; and
(b) the court may have regard to conduct engaged in, or circumstances existing, before the commencement of this section.
(4) It is the intention of the Parliament that:
(a) this section is not limited by the unwritten law relating to unconscionable conduct; and
(b) this section is capable of applying to a system of conduct or pattern of behaviour, whether or not a particular individual is identified as having been disadvantaged by the conduct or behaviour; and
(c) in considering whether conduct to which a contract relates is unconscionable, a court's consideration of the contract may include consideration of:
(i) the terms of the contract; and
(ii) the manner in which and the extent to which the contract is carried out;
and is not limited to consideration of the circumstances relating to formation of the contract.
22 Matters the court may have regard to for the purposes of section 21
(1) Without limiting the matters to which the court may have regard for the purpose of determining whether a person (the supplier) has contravened section 21 in connection with the supply or possible supply of goods or services to a person (the customer), the court may have regard to:
(a) the relative strengths of the bargaining positions of the supplier and the customer; and
(b) whether, as a result of conduct engaged in by the supplier, the customer was required to comply with conditions that were not reasonably necessary for the protection of the legitimate interests of the supplier; and
(c) whether the customer was able to understand any documents relating to the supply or possible supply of the goods or services; and
(d) whether any undue influence or pressure was exerted on, or any unfair tactics were used against, the customer or a person acting on behalf of the customer by the supplier or a person acting on behalf of the supplier in relation to the supply or possible supply of the goods or services; and
(e) the amount for which, and the circumstances under which, the customer could have acquired identical or equivalent goods or services from a person other than the supplier; and
(f) the extent to which the supplier's conduct towards the customer was consistent with the supplier's conduct in similar transactions between the supplier and other like customers; and
(g) the requirements of any applicable industry code; and
(h) the requirements of any other industry code, if the customer acted on the reasonable belief that the supplier would comply with that code; and
(i) the extent to which the supplier unreasonably failed to disclose to the customer:
(i) any intended conduct of the supplier that might affect the interests of the customer; and
(ii) any risks to the customer arising from the supplier's intended conduct (being risks that the supplier should have foreseen would not be apparent to the customer); and
(j) if there is a contract between the supplier and the customer for the supply of the goods or services:
(i) the extent to which the supplier was willing to negotiate the terms and conditions of the contract with the customer; and
(ii) the terms and conditions of the contract; and
(iii) the conduct of the supplier and the customer in complying with the terms and conditions of the contract; and
(iv) any conduct that the supplier or the customer engaged in, in connection with their commercial relationship, after they entered into the contract; and
(k) without limiting paragraph (j), whether the supplier has a contractual right to vary unilaterally a term or condition of a contract between the supplier and the customer for the supply of the goods or services; and
(l) the extent to which the supplier and the customer acted in good faith.
(a) The relevant standard is a statutory standard, which it is not limited by equitable doctrine: s 21(4)(a);
(b) The statutory conception of unconscionability is more broad-ranging than the equitable principles: Australian Securities and Investments Commission v Kobelt (2019) 267 CLR 1; [2019] HCA 18 at [83], [87]-[89] (Gageler J, as his Honour then was), [144] (Nettle and Gordon JJ), [295] (Edelman J);
(c) The determination of whether conduct is, in all the circumstances, unconscionable is required by s 22 to be informed by the numerous considerations specified in that section, each of which has the potential to bear positively or negatively on the characterisation of conduct as conduct that is or is not unconscionable, and each of which must be taken into account if and to the extent that it is applicable in all the circumstances: Kobelt at [83] (Gageler J); Productivity Partners Pty Ltd (t/as Captain Cook College) v Australian Competition and Consumer Commission (2024) 419 ALR 30; [2024] HCA 27 at [53] (footnote 21) (Gageler CJ and Jagot J);
(d) The s 22 factors are non-exhaustive. They provide "express guidance as to the norms and values that are relevant" to, and inform the meaning of, "unconscionable" in s 21(1) and its practical operation. These norms and values include "certainty in commercial transactions, honesty, the absence of trickery or sharp practice, fairness when dealing with customers, the faithful performance of bargains and promises freely made" and the protection of the vulnerable: Productivity Partners at [100] (Gordon J, with whom Steward J (at [282]), Gleeson J (at [314]) and Beech-Jones J (at [340]) agreed);
(e) The s 22 factors "assist in 'setting a framework for the values that lie behind the notion of conscience identified in [s 21]'". The s 22 factors "assist in evaluating whether the conduct in question is 'outside societal norms of acceptable commercial behaviour [so] as to warrant condemnation as conduct that is offensive to conscience'": Productivity Partners at [101] (Gordon J, referring to Stubbings v Jams 2 Pty Ltd (2022) 276 CLR 1; [2022] HCA 6, at [57]);
(f) The evaluation of the conduct in all the circumstances first requires close consideration of the facts: Kobelt at [217] (Nettle and Gordon JJ); Productivity Partners at [60] (Gageler CJ and Jagot J);
(g) Once the relevant facts have been identified and ascertained, assessing whether conduct in all the circumstances is to be characterised as unconscionable involves an evaluative judgment: Kobelt [47] (Kiefel CJ and Bell J) and [120], [122] (Keane J); Productivity Partners at [105] (Gordon J).
(a) Mr Ganly classified Torc Solutions' historic customers as direct customers or resellers.
(b) Mr Ganly classified Torc Solutions' historic sales to direct customers and reseller customers according to the customer's main industry of operation using Australian and New Zealand Standard Industrial Classification (ANZSIC) codes and their main State of operation. ANZSIC, which is produced jointly between the Australian Bureau of Statistics and Stats New Zealand, is a hierarchical classification under which individual businesses are assigned to an industry based on its predominant activity. A business can only have one ANZSIC code.
(c) Mr Ganly prepared a table identifying Torc Solutions' historic sales to direct customers and reseller customers by ANZSIC code and his own "DES [Deep End Services] Industry" classification.
(d) Mr Ganly classified Torc Solutions' historic sales to direct customers and reseller customers into his own four "DES [Deep End Services] Industry" categories, being "Other", "Other Machinery and Equipment Repair and Maintenance", "Hardware and Building Supplies Retailing" and "Electricity Generation", in order of the number of customers in each category.
(e) Mr Ganly made specified adjustments and reconciliations to Torc Solutions' annual sales to direct customers from 2016/17-2022/23.
(f) Mr Ganly assumed the dollar value of reseller sales to individual customers within each industry group (including the "Other" group) bore a consistent ratio to the average dollar value of direct sales Torc Solutions made to customers within the same industry group (including the "Other" group) and assigned sales dollar values per customer per year to reseller customer lists, for which such data was not available.
(g) Mr Ganly used sales data for three years from 2017/18-2019/20, which years were chosen "as the business was starting to mature", and aggregated sales by his own four DES Industry groups, two of which he described as "Major Industry" groups, with an additional row provided for "International" sales, and assigned a ratio to compare the other industry groups ("Electricity Generation" and "Other") to the "Major Industry" groups.
(h) Mr Ganly aggregated sales to Australian customers in the "Major Industry" groups between 2017/18-2019/20 by State and used data from the Australian Bureau of Statistics to identify the number of businesses per state in the "Major Industry" groups to calculate "average Major Industry sales per business by state" values.
(i) Mr Ganly took Western Australia, being the state in which Torc Solutions had reached the highest historical "sales rate per business" within the "Major Industry" groups, and assumed that that "rate per business" in those groups in Western Australia represented a "mature sales level" which Torc Solutions would be able to achieve across other states and territories, had it continued to trade. Mr Ganly also considered how far behind Torc Solutions was in other States, compared to the "mature sales level" in Western Australia, to make an assumption as to the number of years in would take to reach the "mature sales level" in the other States.
(j) Mr Ganly forecast linear growth in "sales rates per business" to "Major Industry" businesses in each State and Territory until the assumed "mature sales level" was reached, and ongoing growth in line with CPI forecasts thereafter until 2033.
(k) Mr Ganly then took the forecast sales rates per "Major Industry" business and multiplied this by the forecast number of "Major Industry" businesses to arrive at Torc Solutions "Major Industry" forecast sales by State from 2020/21-2032/33.
(l) The final step in the process was to "gross up" the "Major Industry" sales forecasts to take into account sales to Australian customers not operating in the "Major Industry" groups and allow for sales to international customers, either direct or via resellers, by adopting the ratio of sales to "Non-Major Industry" and international customers relative to sales to "Major Industry" customers from 2017/18-2019/20.
(a) The process Mr Ganly used to assign direct customers to industry groups according to ANZSIC industry codes was based on Torc Solutions' direct customer lists and undisclosed internet research undertaken by Mr Ganly's associate. It is trite that, when providing an expert opinion to the Court, the expert must set out the facts and assumptions on which their opinion is based and the reasoning process deployed in arriving at their opinion: Makita v Sprowles (2001) 52 NSWLR 705; [2001] NSWCA 305 at [79] (Heydon JA, as his Honour then was, Priestley and Powell JJA agreeing at [1], [7] and [8], [22] respectively), referring to National Justice Compania Naviera SA v Prudential Assurance Co Ltd (The Ikarian Reefer) [1993] 2 Lloyd's Rep 68 at 81-82 (Creswell J). In Makita, at [59], Heydon JA cited with apparent approval Lord President Cooper's statement in David v The Lord Provost, Magistrates and Councillors of the City of Edinburgh (1953) SC 34 at 39-40 that the expert's duty is to furnish the Judge or jury with the necessary criteria for testing the accuracy of their conclusions, so as to enable the Judge or jury to form their own independent judgment by the application of these criteria to the facts proved in evidence: referred to with approval in Lang v The Queen (2023) 278 CLR 323; [2023] HCA 29 at [7] (Kiefel CJ and Gageler J). The failure to disclose the internet research and process by which customers were allocated an ANZSIC code prevented that evidence from being tested, enabling a proper evaluation of the validity Mr Ganly's conclusions. As mentioned, under the ANZSIC classification individual businesses are assigned to an industry code based on their predominant activity and can only be classified with one ANZSIC code. In the result, the failure to disclose the internet research and the process by which ANZSIC codes were assigned to Torc Solutions' customers and resellers prevented any analysis or testing of the subjective classification of the predominant activity of those customers, particularly larger customers with a number of business units.
(b) The process by which Mr Ganly classified Torc Solutions' historic, direct customers and resellers into his own four DES Industry categories was based on actual sales per direct customer for less than 25% of Torc Solutions' total historical sales by number of clients, and around 30% by sales volume, after 2016/2017. There was no sound basis for the assumption that data for direct customers could be used to profile and classify resellers. Mr Ganly did not explain why it was reasonable for him to use data for direct customers and apply it to profile and classify resellers (for which there was no data as to the resellers' end customers) according to his four DES Industry groups.
(c) Mr Ganly's subjective approach to classifying Torc Solutions' customers by category was at odds with Andrew Case's evidence in relation to the volume of direct customers he identified as participants in the mining industry. According to the ANZSIC classification process used by Mr Ganly, 16.1% of Torc Solutions' direct customers had a connection to the mining industry (e.g., mining and construction machinery manufacturing (6.6%), coal mining (4.3%), iron ore mining (3.3%), gold ore mining (1.9%)). However, Mr Ganly classified these customers under "Other", using Mr Ganly's "DES Industry" classification, and he assigned them to the "Non-Major Industry" group.
(d) Mr Ganly's adoption of the "Major Industry" groupings appeared to be a means by which to use the Australian Bureau of Statistics data regarding the size of identified "markets" for modelling purposes. As the respondents submitted, this modelling approach, applied at such a high level of abstraction, had a tendency to overinflate and generalise Torc Solutions' market or customer base and lacked any real or meaningful justification.
(e) Mr Ganly's approach resulted in forecast growth rates of 76.4% in the first year of Mr Ganly's analysis (2020/21), and 43.9% in the second year (2021/22), which seemed illogical and unrealistic, compared to Torc Solutions' actual sales figures for 2020/21 to 2021/22. Although that actual data was available to Mr Ganly, it was not used by Mr Ganly to cross-check his sales forecasts or at all.
(f) Mr Ganly was asked to prepare his sales forecasts for 2020/21-2032/33 on the assumption that Torc Solutions' sales performance was adversely impacted by supply issues from April 2020 until termination in June 2022. Although Torc Solutions was unable to access Torc Solutions branded products in that period, I am not persuaded that Torc Solutions established that its sales were materially affected, for example, by shortfalls of Torc LLC products. Below is a table showing Torc Solutions sales results, including for 2020/21 and 2021/22, as set out in Mr Ganly's report:
(g) I am not persuaded that there was a sound basis for the assumptions Mr Ganly was required to make regarding Torc Solutions' historical customer base and associated capacity for future growth, which made his forecasting process speculative and lacking in cogent explanation.
(h) I am not persuaded that there was a sound basis for Mr Ganly's assumptions regarding "mature sales levels" and when mature sales levels would be achieved in the various States. I am not persuaded that there was a sound basis for Mr Ganly's assumptions that "sales rate per business" in the "Major Industry" groups in Western Australia represented a "mature sales level" for Torc Solutions or that that same "mature sales level" could be extrapolated out to all other States and Territories, had it continued to trade. As the respondents submitted, Mr Ganly failed to make any allowance for the fact that the "mature sales levels" in Western Australia may have been unique to that State, which is well known for its large and profitable mining and resources sectors. There was no justification or explanation behind the assumption that the "matures sales level" in Western Australia was appropriate or achievable in other States and Territories.
(a) loss of profits suffered by Torc Solutions for the financial years 2020/21 and 2021/22;
(b) the net present value of the projected sales and profits from 1 July 2023 to 30 June 2032; and
(c) adding to that sum, the NPV of the estimated value of the business on 30 June 2032.
Regarding market share, especially in Australia, expectations often exceed reality. With tools like those available to Torc Solutions, HYTORC has averaged 228 units sold annually since 2016, generating about AUD$1,500,000 per year. This may represent an estimated peak market share of 35%, achieved over 30 years.
(a) he established a base level for the sales projections using the actual value of Torc Solutions' sales for the financial year 2021/22 or, alternatively, the average value of Torc Solutions sales for the period of financial years 2020-2022;
(b) he identified a "central", "pessimistic" and "optimistic" scenario regarding the base level for sales projections; and
(c) he inflated the forecasts each year in anticipation of expected increase in average prices over that year.
Paragraph 23 of Mr Ganly's report dated 19 June 2024
Paragraph 3.6.8 of Mr Morton's report dated 25 November 2024
I certify that the preceding two hundred and ninety-three (293) numbered paragraphs are a true copy of the Reasons for Judgment of the Honourable Justice Neskovcin.
Torc Solutions Pty Ltd
Unex Corporation doing business as Hytorc [2025] FCA 1124
AHG WA (2015) Pty Ltd v Mercedes-Benz Australia/Pacific Pty Ltd (2023) 303 FCR 479; [2023] FCA 1022
Australian Competition and Consumer Commission v TPG Internet Pty Ltd (2020) 278 FCR 450; [2020] FCAFC 130
Australian Securities and Investments Commission v Kobelt (2019) 267 CLR 1; [2019] HCA 18
Australian Securities and Investments Commission v Wilson (No 3) (2023) 171 ACSR 1; [2023] FCA 1009
Hendricks v McGeoch (2008) 14 BPR 26,415; [2008] NSWCA 53
J. Kitchen & Sons Pty Ltd v Stewart's Cash and Carry Stores (1942) 66 CLR 116; [1942] HCA 18
Lang v The Queen (2023) 278 CLR 323; [2023] HCA 29
Makita v Sprowles (2001) 52 NSWLR 705; [2001] NSWCA 305
Masters v Cameron (1954) 91 CLR 353; [1954] HCA 72
Miller & Associates Insurance Broking Pty Ltd v BMW Australia Finance Ltd (2010) 241 CLR 357; [2010] HCA 31
Mount Bruce Mining Pty Limited v Wright Prospecting Pty Limited (2015) 256 CLR 104; [2015] HCA 37
Nadinic v Drinkwater [2020] NSWCA 2
Pownall v Conlan Management Pty Ltd (as trustee for the Kalbarri Trust) [1995] WASC 117; (1995) 12 WAR 370
Productivity Partners Pty Ltd (t/as Captain Cook College) v Australian Competition and Consumer Commission (2024) 419 ALR 30; [2024] HCA 27
Self Care IP Holdings Pty Ltd v Allergan Australia Pty Ltd (2023) 277 CLR 186; [2023] HCA 8
Stubbings v Jams 2 Pty Ltd (2022) 276 CLR 1; [2022] HCA 6
Toll (FGCT) Pty Ltd v Alphapharm Pty Ltd (2004) 219 CLR 165; [2004] HCA 52
(2023) 303 FCR 479
(2020) 278 FCR 450
(2019) 267 CLR 1
(1988) 14 NSWLR 438
(1988) 19 NSWLR 40
(1942) 66 CLR 116
(2023) 278 CLR 323
(2001) 52 NSWLR 705
(1954) 91 CLR 353
(2010) 241 CLR 357
(2015) 256 CLR 104
(1995) 12 WAR 370
(2024) 419 ALR 30
(2023) 277 CLR 186
(2022) 276 CLR 1
(2004) 219 CLR 165