[2025] FWC 829
General information, not legal advice.
Fair Work Commission
2025-03-25
Original judgment source is linked above.
s.394 - Application for unfair dismissal remedy
Application for an unfair dismissal remedy - application out of time - circumstances not exceptional - application dismissed
(b) whether the person first became aware of the dismissal after it had taken effect;
(c) any action taken by person to dispute the dismissal;
(d) prejudice to the employer (including prejudice caused by the delay);
(f) fairness as between person and other persons in a similar position.
Was the application made within 21 days after the dismissal took effect?
Should the Commission allow a further period for the application to be made?
(b) whether Mr Marsland first became aware of the dismissal after it had taken effect;
(c) any action taken by Mr Marsland to dispute the dismissal;
(d) prejudice to the employer (including prejudice caused by the delay);
(f) fairness as between Mr Marsland and other persons in a similar position.
Did Mr Marsland first become aware of the dismissal after it had taken effect?
What action was taken by Mr Marsland to dispute the dismissal?
What is the prejudice to the employer (including prejudice caused by the delay)?
15AA Determining the ordinary meanings of employee and employer
(1) For the purposes of this Act, whether an individual is an employee of a person within the ordinary meaning of that expression, or whether a person is an employer of an individual within the ordinary meaning of that expression, is to be determined by ascertaining the real substance, practical reality and true nature of the relationship between the individual and the person.
(2) For the purposes of ascertaining the real substance, practical reality and true nature of the relationship between the individual and the person:
(a) the totality of the relationship between the individual and the person must be considered; and
(b) in considering the totality of the relationship between the individual and the person, regard must be had not only to the terms of the contract governing the relationship, but also to other factors relating to the totality of the relationship including, but not limited to, how the contract is performed in practice.
Note: This section was enacted as a response to the decisions of the High Court of Australia in CFMMEU v Personnel Contracting Pty Ltd [2022] HCA 1 and ZG Operations Australia Pty Ltd v Jamsek [2022] HCA 2.
(3) Subsections (1) and (2) do not apply to the following provisions of this Act:
(a) Divisions 2A and 2B of Part 1‑3;
(b) Part 3‑1, to the extent that Part 3‑1 applies only because of the operation of section 30G or 30R.
Fairness as between Mr Marsland and other persons in a similar position
Is the Commission satisfied that there are exceptional circumstances, taking into account the matters above?
(b) Mr Marsland becoming aware of the dismissal before it took effect;
(c) the action taken by Mr Marsland to dispute the dismissal during the period from June to September 2024 prior to making the application;
(d) no issue of prejudice to the employer being identified;
(e) the likelihood that Mr Marsland is not an employee and that the Commission does not have the power to consider the merits of the application; and
(f) no issue of fairness arising between Mr Marsland and other persons in a similar position.

Mr T. Sebbens, legal representative from Ashurst, for the Respondent
[1] Lisha Herc v Hays Specialist Recruitment (Australia) Pty Limited [2022] FWCFB 234 at [15]
[2] Singh v Trimatic Management Services Pty Ltd [2020] FWCFB 553, [10]. See also Acts Interpretation Act 1901 (Cth) s 36(1) as in force on 25 June 2009; Fair Work Act 2009 (Cth) s 40A.
[3] Stogiannidis v Victorian Frozen Foods Distributors Pty Ltd [2018] FWCFB 901, [39].
[4] Shaw v Australia and New Zealand Banking Group Ltd [2015] FWCFB 287, [12] (Watson VP and Smith DP).
[5] Stogiannidis v Victorian Frozen Foods Distributors Pty Ltd [2018] FWCFB 901, [39].
[6] Stogiannidis v Victorian Frozen Foods Distributors Pty Ltd [2018] FWCFB 901, [40].
[7] Nulty v Blue Star Group Pty Ltd [2011] FWAFB 975, [14]; Miller v Allianz Insurance Australia Ltd [2016] FWCFB 5472, [23].
[11] Nulty v Blue Star Group Pty Ltd [2011] FWAFB 975, [13].
[12] Nulty v Blue Star Group Pty Ltd [2011] FWAFB 975, [13].
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Thomas Marsland
Rasier Pacific Pty Ltd [2025] FWC 829