12 No reference was made to this issue in the course of oral argument. In the context of the apparent position that $185,000 was uncontroversial, and that Mrs Kekatos' counsel's closing submissions, though referring to $250,000, added "subject to any discount", I did not give close attention to the possibility that $250,000 rather than $185,000 might be the appropriate amount.
13 The principle which my judgment sought to reflect was that which says that a trustee is entitled to be reimbursed from the trust assets for expenses and liabilities reasonably incurred by the trustee in the administration of the trust or the preservation of the trust assets. It is not and has never been an issue that the amount properly payable by Mrs Kekatos to Mr Cvitanovic falls within that category. What was not clearly an issue at the trial - although I accept, having now looked again at Mrs Kekatos' counsel's submissions, that it was "on the table" - was whether the appropriate amount was $185,000 or some greater amount.
14 The position, as the evidence before me now establishes, is that the date for payment of $185,000 free of interest has passed, and the date as at which $185,000 with interest will be acceptable to Mr Cvitanovic will cease to be acceptable to Mr Cvitanovic is fast approaching. It is very likely that Mrs Kekatos will have to pay something more than $185,000 (on account of interest), and it is possible that she may have to pay $250,000. I am not, at least at present, in a position to conclude that if she has to pay the higher amount - or any amount greater than $185,000 - the difference has not reasonably been incurred. It is apparent, on the material already before me, that at least some delay in raising the sum in question has been occasioned by the presence of the plaintiffs' caveat. While it may well be an entirely proper caveat, its existence may also provide a perfectly good explanation as to why it has not been possible for Mrs Kekatos to raise the sum payable by her to Mr Cvitanovic at any earlier stage. I am not prepared to conclude, as presently advised, that for her to have incurred liability for any sum over $185,000 is, in the circumstances, unreasonable.
15 The argument has proceeded to date on the basis that the whole of any further amount should be recoverable, but as the judgment proceeds on the basis of a notional distribution of the trust assets - and although I will hear further argument on this, if necessary, at a later date - as presently advised, it seems that Mrs Kekatos' entitlement would be to recoup only one half of any payment over the $185,000.
16 Accordingly, as I overlooked the possibility that the appropriate allowance might be more than $185,000, and as it is at least arguable that it will be, on this issue Mrs Kekatos should have leave to reopen, to argue that she should be entitled to recoup not only the $185,000 for which provision has already been made, but also half of any further amount that may be payable.
17 The nature of the trustee's right in these circumstances is one of reimbursement, coupled with a right of recoupment or exoneration and of retainer, in the sense that the trustee is entitled to retain sufficient of the trust assets to cover its claim to indemnity, pending exercise of the right. In my view, having raised the issue, albeit obliquely, in submissions, Mrs Kekatos should not be debarred by my judgment from mounting her claim for additional reimbursement, if and when it crystalises, but her failure to raise it with clarity at an earlier stage impacts on her ability to mount a claim of retainer, as distinct from one of reimbursement. I intend to make orders that will preserve her ability to claim reimbursement once the amount actually required to be paid has been ascertained. As it is agreed that I will stay enforcement of the judgment for at least 14 days in any event, it will not be necessary to make any other orders, so far as the judgment is concerned, until that amount is known. If, in due course, Mrs Kekatos makes out a claim for additional reimbursement, it will be possible to give effect to that by a judgment in her favour for the relevant amount, and then to set off the two judgments. It is not necessary to vary my judgment on this account.
18 The next respect in which leave to reopen is sought is to claim interest on the amounts paid by Mrs Kekatos, chiefly (though not exclusively) to Mr Cvitanovic, between late 2004 and September 2005 (when she received the settlement proceeds). Those payments are referred to in paragraph 83 of my principal judgment. In the principal judgment, I allowed interest on the balance remaining in Mrs Kekatos' hands from 25 September 2005, after providing for recoupment by her of all her expenditure. Mr Jacobs QC, who appears for her on this application, submits that she should recover interest on the amounts paid by her up to 25 September 2005 (during which period she was out of pocket). Evidence has been tendered on her behalf calculating her claim for interest over the relevant period to 25 September 2005 at a total of $52,854.82.
19 There are numerous difficulties with this submission. First, unlike the issue in relation to the amount of her liability under the Cvitanovic terms of settlement, it was in no way raised, orally or in writing, during the trial, and there is no explanation or apparent reason for it not having been raised inconsistent with fault on the part of Mrs Kekatos' side of the record. Accordingly, there is simply no basis to grant leave to reopen in that respect in the first place. Secondly, as Mr Finnane, who appears for the plaintiffs points out, her entitlement to interest would be a charge not against the plaintiffs but a charge against the trust fund, thus she would be entitled to only one half of the amount claimed. Thirdly, while I did not provide for interest in favour of Mrs Kekatos on those payments, I also did not allow interest to the plaintiffs in respect of the period before 25 September - notwithstanding that Mrs Kekatos had received trust moneys before that date from the royalty distributions - on the basis that she was entitled to retain the moneys so received until the amount of her expenditure had been fully recouped. If I were to allow interest on the sums she had paid out, I would correspondingly have to allow interest on those other receipts in her hands. Superimposed on the reduction just mentioned (of half), this would practically extinguish her interest claim. Fourthly, and in my view decisively, as Mr Finnane again points out, ordinarily when a trustee advances his or her own money to the trust he or she is not entitled to interest thereon [Sichel v O'Shanassy (1877) 3 VLR (E) 208; Re Jones [1917] St R Qd 74; Jacobs' Law of Trusts in Australia, 5th ed, [2107]; Ford and Lee, Principles of the Law of Trusts, [14.3370]].
20 Accordingly, I would refuse leave to reopen to claim interest on the payments made by Mrs Kekatos.
21 The third aspect of the application for leave to reopen concerns the costs incurred by Mrs Kekatos in defending the Cvitanovic proceedings. Again, this issue was never raised, in writing or orally, during or in connection with the trial. There was then, and is now, no evidence of what those costs were. Mrs Kekatos seeks leave to issue and have made returnable a subpoena for production of documents which might elicit evidence of them. To my mind, this is all much too late. If this issue was to be raised, it should have been raised at the trial. There is no explanation why it was not. It is too late to raise it now. I would refuse leave to reopen to claim an allowance or set off for the costs incurred in the Cvitanovic proceedings.
A charge on the Vaucluse property
22 I turn then to the plaintiffs' application, the first aspect of which I shall consider is the application for an order declaring that the judgment is a charge on Mrs Kekatos' Vaucluse property.